Russian bots, 'troll factory' test waters ahead of U.S. midterms

Vilix

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Are we even prepared for this? Do the CIA and FBI have safeguards up against this? Shouldnt companies be hiring digital security to contradict these attacks?

Man i am so paranoid right now!
I’m sure our intelligence agencies are working with both parties, as well as FB and google to safeguard and counter the upcoming attack. My opinion is they aren’t saying anything about it because they don’t want the Russians to know the details.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Are we even prepared for this? Do the CIA and FBI have safeguards up against this? Shouldnt companies be hiring digital security to contradict these attacks?

Man i am so paranoid right now!
I would imagine that the FBI and intelligence agencies are doing everything they can on their own with, you know, no direct support from the White House or the GOP-led congress.
 

MDS

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User Banned (1 Week): Junior account making inflammatory false equivalencies
The CBC is a propaganda organ for the Canadian government now?

Wait, if you're here, who's manning Ontario Proud?
Of course it is? Same as BBC, Voice of America, RT etc, etc. Government's don't run news organizations out of a commitment to the notion of objective truth.

It can be a relatively benign source of propaganda but don't fool yourself about what it is or deny that it's worth a sensible chuckle to note the irony involved in a state run broadcaster being aghast at another state shaping the news to its benefit.
 

SmokeMaxX

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Of course it is? Same as BBC, Voice of America, RT etc, etc. Government's don't run news organizations out of a commitment to the notion of objective truth.

It can be a relatively benign source of propaganda but don't fool yourself about what it is or deny that it's worth a sensible chuckle to note the irony involved in a state run broadcaster being aghast at another state shaping the news to its benefit.
CBC = BBC = NPR = RT? That's a false equivalency if I've ever seen one.
 

Dr.Acula

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Of course it is? Same as BBC, Voice of America, RT etc, etc. Government's don't run news organizations out of a commitment to the notion of objective truth.

It can be a relatively benign source of propaganda but don't fool yourself about what it is or deny that it's worth a sensible chuckle to note the irony involved in a state run broadcaster being aghast at another state shaping the news to its benefit.
Think of the CBC/BBC less as "being funded by the govt.," and more as "being funded by the public."

Schools and hospitals aren't run in order to extract fast cash from parents of students, and patients respectively, whereas institutions funded privately (Trump University for example) can be.

Of course, the Tories implemented legislation to interfere with the CBC's independence (surprise).

https://m.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/04/30/bill-c60-cbc-harper_n_3187821.html

The CBC ran that story of the Trudeau's vacationing at the Aga Khan's island into the ground. They report on Wynne's scandals, but didn't bring up Doug's Ford history as a drug dealer. They're not biased for the party in power.

....who's saying it isnt reprehensible when the USA does it?

Everyone in this thread is bemoaning the fact that the USA isn't doing anything to stop the interference. When we definitely have the means and technology to do so.
Exactly this.

When Russia installed Yanukovych as the Prez in Ukraine, Ukrainians protested and had him booted -TWICE. Then Russia invaded Crimea. Ukraine still fights for that territory.

One expects when a nation is attacked, a nation resists. The GoP of the USA aren't resisting. That's messed up. The GoP are actively suppressing any response and working to help Russia undermine the USA.
 
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Earthstrike

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By the way, one of the number one objective of these troll farms, is to attempt to discredit stories of the troll farms. That's why we have this MDS guy in here along with that russian dude attempting to deflect the story.
 

MDS

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Jun 26, 2018
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Why the fuck isn't your government responding, and why aren't there any movements at grassroots level? You need:

10,000 Spamlings
5,000 Trolls
2,500 Counter Trolls
1,000 Sleeper Trolls
500 Heavy Troll
200 Nintendo fans (told that Putin called BotW overrated)

to counter this and start wrecking havoc on the Russian net.

FUCKING GET IT TOGETHER AMERICA
The US has long had it owns social media manipulating operation. (See: Eglin Airforce Base registering as the most reddit addicted city in America for a number of years. then suddenly disappearing from those the rankings when people started putting that together with some of various publications coming from there: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1402.5644.pdf)

There's a lot of countries that have similar ops, they just don't get publicized as much in the mainstream news. Britain's 77th Brigade, for instance, has a mission about conducting psychological operations on social media, is larger then Russia's Internet Research Agency (aka the Trollfarm), but there exists basically no journalism about what exactly they're doing all day.
 

RedBlue

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Oct 27, 2017
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Only slightly on topic, but we had that thread on Russia co-opting the whyiamleaving hashtag, something like that. I use google not signed in so I see fox headlines often, too often. One of their current headlines is an article about why someone is running as a Republican after being a Dem for a long time. It’s pretty much a Whyimleaving advertisement. I’m sure this wouldn’t be used by the Russian bot.
 

Conor419

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The US has long had it owns social media manipulating operation. (See: Eglin Airforce Base registering as the most reddit addicted city in America for a number of years. then suddenly disappearing from those the rankings when people started putting that together with some of various publications coming from there: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1402.5644.pdf)

There's a lot of countries that have similar ops, they just don't get publicized as much in the mainstream news. Britain's 77th Brigade, for instance, has a mission about conducting psychological operations on social media, is larger then Russia's Internet Research Agency (aka the Trollfarm), but there exists basically no journalism about what exactly they're doing all day.
Sick reply, thanks for the info. Gonna read about the 77th Brigade (might join them one day).
 

Mr. X

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GOP doing nothing looks like a deal with the devil was made. Benefitting this much is more than coincidence.
 

MDS

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By the way, one of the number one objective of these troll farms, is to attempt to discredit stories of the troll farms. That's why we have this MDS guy in here along with that russian dude attempting to deflect the story.
Is everyone that disagrees a Russian Troll? If they are, then the government sucks at screening because I used to have Top Secret clearance and spent literally hundreds of hours of my life across 3 deployments in Iraq talking with various spooks as I chain-smoked in the smoking area that sat between the area of the base that had my barracks and a base annex that did not officially exist.

It is really really important to maintain skepticism about the sources, keep a sense of proportion about the accusation, and put it all in context. It honestly terrifies me that we're back to a place where Bill Kristol and Michael Chertoff are back to being highly cited, unimpeachable sources*, it didn't even take a decade.

*both members of the Alliance For Securing Democracy, which has been behind a ton of the "info" on russian troll activity
 

mael

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Nov 3, 2017
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Russia Today in the same breath as the BBC or France24?

RT literally posted fake news to try to steer foreign elections in 2017, call me when BBC or CBC does something similar.
Call me when CBC willfully shares fake news about foreign leaders.
 

Deleted member 9986

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This is literal war. We are literally at war with Russia right now. This is an invasion.

I'm not even fucking kidding, guys.
lmao

Where were you when America destroyed the USSR and Russia afterwards? Was that an invasion? Give me a break. Don't have a different definition of war on an ad-hoc basis

Wait until the American economy is destroyed, wealth sold for peanuts to oligarchs, elections are undoubtedly rigged for a DRUNK president being hauled by the enemy while your citizens are dying from hunger again directly because of sabotage. Then you can call it even.
 

Lundren

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lmao

Where were you when America destroyed the USSR and Russia afterwards? Was that an invasion? Give me a break. Don't have a different definition of war on an ad-hoc basis

Wait until the American economy is destroyed, wealth sold for peanuts to oligarchs, elections are undoubtedly rigged for a DRUNK president being hauled by the enemy while your citizens are dying from hunger again directly because of sabotage. Then you can call it even.
I just wanted to mention how stupid and shortsighted this post is. You've left me in awe.
 

ty_hot

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There is something poetic in the American election being targeted/influenced. Social media is making it so much easier now, though.
 

Toxi

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Oct 27, 2017
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By the way, one of the number one objective of these troll farms, is to attempt to discredit stories of the troll farms. That's why we have this MDS guy in here along with that russian dude attempting to deflect the story.
A junior account with 47 posts getting a 1 week ban after equating RT and the fucking BBC.

And people say Era's moderation is too harsh.
 

platocplx

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Oct 30, 2017
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Yep, those sites are well passed their "cool" date. Facebook has a little more going for it, but twitter? More than half of their total user base are bots and only a fraction of the other half are actually normal active users. I don't see twitter lasting another five years.
yeah,Reality is that very few users actually run these networks. Many people are just watching and reading and have accounts for that or they may just follow stuff.