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Rust European servers are down due to a fire. Data cannot be restored.
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In hosting you sell hosting to others and buy reseller accounts. This happened to them at OVH only.
News article of the incident
It's for this, my company also affected
www.datacenterknowledge.com
Fire Has Destroyed OVH’s Strasbourg Data Center (SBG2)
No OVH, firefighting, or local government services staff members were injured, the company said. Restart of surviving data centers on campus not anticipated until Monday.
www.datacenterknowledge.com
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I believed this "data" is referring to live server data and the players' online profile data.
Still....if it's player profile data it should have been back up.
It's for this, my company also affected
Fire Has Destroyed OVH’s Strasbourg Data Center (SBG2)
No OVH, firefighting, or local government services staff members were injured, the company said. Restart of surviving data centers on campus not anticipated until Monday.
My site too
I'm scared their disaster recovery plan won't be enough to get everything back online in a short time-frame...
That's why you always need offsite-backups.
I hope not more important data got destroyed.
At least nobody got hurt, which is the most important part here.
I hope not more important data got destroyed.
At least nobody got hurt, which is the most important part here.
this fire also affected the two biggest german electronics retailers (mediamarkt and saturn), although not their main websites/operations but some partner-related web access or something
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Well, at least this incident didn't happen after Rust is launching on PS4 and Xbox One:
www.gamespot.com
Rust Is Coming To PS4 And Xbox One This Spring
The multiplayer survival game has come a long way since its early access days.
www.gamespot.com
that depends on what plan are you buying. Most cloud backups are expensive and offsite are also costly.
I would imagine the scale/size of data lost here would be inappropriate for something like Steam Cloud. There's also the issue of ownership; it's possible the Rust devs wanted more control over who handles their data.
Yeah, OVH is one of the largest server providers in Europe outside of the hyperscalers, so this is going to have fairly widespread repercussions, well beyond gaming.
Rust is consistently on Steam's top sellers and peak concurrent users chart...that seems like a flimsy excuse.
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now it's still down....
That's a way of winning more money...
First time hearing that name.Candysan
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now it's still down....
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It's a cost of doing business, which yes, unfortunately, scales up as a product becomes more popular. Ideally, they are running their business well enough to absorb those increased costs with increased revenue as they become more successful.
Just backing up the databases will cost basically nothing. They just bought into the "cloud" myth is what I guess.
Well, at least this incident didn't happen after Rust is launching on PS4 and Xbox One:
Rust Is Coming To PS4 And Xbox One This Spring
The multiplayer survival game has come a long way since its early access days.
Any word on if the launch has been affected?
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No official announcements yet. Will keep you posted if there's any.
yup the games were affected, Maniaplanet, TM Turbo and TM2020, TM2020's been fixed so far i believe. I'll have to check is Nations/United Forever have been put back up
EDIT: Trackmania Nations/United are working right now
To be fair, it is highly unlikely that a modern server farm can burn down.
Server racks would be in a fire proof room, that room would be flooded in 10 sec with nitrogen to erase the fire completely.
Cables would be also in fire proof housings.
But that doesn't seem to be the case in that server farm.
Not sure what that means.
Most cloud infrastructure providers provide both redundancy options that can be entirely automated. Azure for example, provides in-region redundancy option where data is replicated across 3 separate datacenters in a region. For a higher price they also provide a cross-region redundancy option, where data is replicated from EU West to NA East or anything similar to offer an even higher data availability and security.
I've been in the meetings. People want DR but when they see the cost they want nothing to do with it. Our company moved from server racks in our office to server racks in a single DC. Really that just moved the single point of failure for live services to somewhere else. Somewhere safer and far more resilient yes, but still a single point of failure. We do also have constant backups, on and off site but backups are only great if you have something to restore to.
Properly implemented cloud stuff would not be affected by this. They decided to not have regional redundancy, so sadly this fire killed their data.
Yes redundancy is more expensive, but it literally is just a toggle on Azure. If you go for Cloud, make sure you use the advantages of cloud, otherwise you are just renting a server rack.
Yeah, I meant they just went with the bare minimum (or less even) and believed that nothing could happen, or they did not care, which is worse of course.
Even if you are not paying for redundancy, a simple database backup (like once a day, again, bare minimum) costs you basically nothing to implement and is provider agnostic.
I guess a fire that's big enough can overwhelm the defenses, especially if it causes walls to collapse and thus have oxygen flowing in from outdoors.
This wasn't just a small fire in the server room, after all.
Wouldn't be the case normally, because a big fire can't happen in an modern server farm envoirment.
Fire needs combustible, heat and oxygen, fire doesn't spawn without these things.
Maybe it started outside the protected area and burnt its way in?
Fire proof walls hold for 90 minutes under a big fire, i don't think so.
Also it would be dumb to have a completely unprotected zone beside the protected zone, normally there are 3 zones for fire protection.
Pretty clear OVH is a cheapo "Cloud" provider.
My Valheim server can only be killed by an asteroid impact and we don't care because it would wipe out the whole of the EU as well.
OVH update
-- https://www.theregister.com/2021/03/17/ovh_restoration_update/theregister.com said:
This is what I meant with: "They just bought into the "cloud" myth"
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Threadmarked, considering the date of the article being published today.