Also what's going to happen to the devices they already built? This sucks.
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Samsung delays Galaxy Fold release
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It's not on the market yet. And it's not blowing up with potential to cause injury. How you see the Fold as worse is beyond me
But I thought they said all you needed to do was not remove the totally removable, totally non-functional film from the screen?
It's already sold out in it's first day. I think they will be fine.
Pray people forget what a clusterfuck this was. Otherwise nothing. They can't completely redesign it in a month, so either they're writing up rigid guidelines on how one should go about using the phone and putting them in the retail boxes, or they're never going to release this iteration of it. Either scenario is a huge, deserved clusterfuck.
Mayyyybe they can preinstall that layer so that it's hidden under the seam that the layer it's ontop of his protected by?
That would be ideal, but I don't know if it's plausible. Of course, that still only counters one issue, and I have to imagine that shit getting under the screen potentially breaking it won't be easily fixed.
Even if it's a lump of modelling clay because the Verge used some to mount the phone at one point, if that can get in there, well, plenty of stuff can get in there.
I researched an article on how Nokia phones are designed once and encountered a neat titbit from engineers about a thing they do with new phones internally called the gorilla test that basically involves handing them off to their burliest co-worker, or sometimes even a toddler and asking them to try break it with their bare hands. The idea is that all the tests they do with machines can't replicate the kind of abuse a phone might get in real life or if your kid picks it up or something.
I'm wondering how quickly the issues with the screen of the Fold and how easy it seemingly is to remove would have been discovered if Samsung adopted that test because it's baffling to me that nobody internally thought to try and pull on the screen to see if it would come off.
I'm wondering how quickly the issues with the screen of the Fold and how easy it seemingly is to remove would have been discovered if Samsung adopted that test because it's baffling to me that nobody internally thought to try and pull on the screen to see if it would come off.
I'll bet Grizzle Boy will be in here downplaying it.
This has been a mess since review units were breaking and many of us called it in the last thread. This thing is done for.
Refurbishing those, and manufacturing ones without the issue?
I'm just trying to think of what can even plausibly be done to correct the issue beyond better messaging, and that idea was a hard maybe.
What the bloody hell is up with these threads? The incessant baiting and fishing for arguments is pathetic.
Yeah you basically proved my point. Latent flaws are much harder to find than obvious ones. Why is this even an argument? Two days of playing with a phone breaks the screen that's a huge and obvious flaw.
Just an educated guess, but my take is that once the screens went into mass production they were even weaker than Samsung thought (been a while since anyone used plastic screens on a high end phone...) leading to the "mandatory/pre-installed screen protector" thing being added at the last minute (after mass production had begun) and Samsung just hoping that everything would work out. And clearly......it hasn't. I would imagine they are trying to see if they can salvage it by using a different pre-installed screen protector or by modifying the way it's installed, or something, rather than re-engineering the entire phone.
The obviousness of the flaw is not the question here - the seriousness is.
I assume they can't fundamentally change the design issues or the manufacturing process in a month, so I expect they're just updating the packaging and covering it with caveats/warnings and probably updating any user manual text or warranty text that comes with the phone to be more robust in terms of protecting Samsung from what, if the early impressions hold steady, will be a shitstorm of broken devices.
The truth. I have no love for corporations in general, but Samsung's corruption in their dealings in South Korea is on a whole different level. They are rotten to the core.
Can you tell me any nice company?
Apple ain't great. Huawei are corrupt in China. All big companies have done shady stuff hence why they get so big. Amazon, Microsoft etc whatever they all have done shady stuff in the past.
This is such a big blow to them because this will be costly, time-consuming, and even less will buy it from the bad press (although I don't think this was ever expected to sell a lot of units).
This also really hurts for them because the reviews were generally pretty positive from a software standpoint. Hardware wise was definitely a failure (externally).
This also really hurts for them because the reviews were generally pretty positive from a software standpoint. Hardware wise was definitely a failure (externally).
Yeah, I suspect this was always meant to be something made in very limited numbers, and wasn't expected to make them much money, but it was meant to do positive things for their company image, and lay the groundwork for subsequent folding displays to be high volume products.
And that's been jeopardized.
I appreciate Samsung for trying something different and unique in mobile phones for once, where everything looks completely the same to the point the only thing that's different now on each model is just the amount of cameras it can have. But yeah this product certainly looks it wasn't ready to launch to the masses just yet. In fact, I believe this whole foldable tech still needs a year or two in the oven to truly shine and make an impact on society because right now, it still looks like a very fragile, expensive and unnecesary luxury. It does certain things better but it does other things worse and the latter outweights the former judging by the reviews, and on top of that the 24/7 paranoia that a funky movement you do might break the fragile screen. I say, if you truly need a perfect 2 screen/foldable experience, just use a damn 3DS lol.
No it isn't Literally the entire point of the article. https://www.wsj.com/articles/samsungs-galaxy-fold-smartphone-release-delayed-11555941705
1 month isn't going to fix this issue. LOL! Take a good hard look at this phone and the design and redesign it.
Article from The Verge said it was still launching on April 26th, but yours is more recent.
Samsung has a penchant for rushing products to market and then suffering from hilarious PR disasters from the poor quality control
What's their plan for this one? The units are definitely already packed and shipped out to retailers. Maybe some kind of mandatory repair/upgrade program like they did with the Note 7 bomb phone? Definitely a stop on all further sales until a new revision B model is quietly released that has either a stronger permanent adhesive for the screen protector or they can redo the substrate so the film is bonded into it deeper. And lots and lots of warning stickers all over the plastic wrap.
What's their plan for this one? The units are definitely already packed and shipped out to retailers. Maybe some kind of mandatory repair/upgrade program like they did with the Note 7 bomb phone? Definitely a stop on all further sales until a new revision B model is quietly released that has either a stronger permanent adhesive for the screen protector or they can redo the substrate so the film is bonded into it deeper. And lots and lots of warning stickers all over the plastic wrap.
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The article from The Verge literally sourced that article from the WSJ, though? I pulled that link from the OP! Maybe the WSJ article has been updated since it was posted?
No, but Apple and Microsoft haven't managed to bring down their national governments by bribing their Head of State. None of them have had their chairman arrested and jailed on corruption charges either.
As I said, corporations are indeed dodgy, but Samsung are a whole different level.
Terrible look. The Fold I demoed was nice but if these many review units already had problems it reeks of being rushed to the market.
Too bad, and they had a shitton of good press from the awesome Galaxy S10 (seriously, best phone I've ever owned). Shot themselves right in the foot with this blunder.
Too bad, and they had a shitton of good press from the awesome Galaxy S10 (seriously, best phone I've ever owned). Shot themselves right in the foot with this blunder.
Dirty balled internet culture thriving on people being wrong
Wash your clothes
Samsung's smart to delay it. It could've been a catastrophe like with the infamous Note 7 scandal/fiasco.
It's hard not to believe there is some of this going on. But just like the Note 7, some of this is on Samsung. They know there are people looking for an excuse to dump on them. If this idea takes off it's a huge threat to the high end American makes that don't have the tech yet. So there are Axes to grind all over the place.
It's inexcusable to launch a major product like this with this many defects. They had to know. I wonder if their testing machines weren't varied enough. Or maybe they're afraid Google and Apple will have foldables next year so they were willing to risk a shaky launch to get out first. In any event, the reviews I have seen all praise the design so it's still the future. The future might just be a little further off. I kinda wish Microsoft would do a full version of Windows on a foldable with mobile data and calling.
It's official. Samsung released statement. Release date will be announced in a couple of weeks so could be delayed longer than a month. Who knows.
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/22/samsung-galaxy-fold-launch-delayed.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/22/samsung-galaxy-fold-launch-delayed.html
How is a screen breaking worse than a phone potentially killing you?