Sarah Sanders and Family Reportedly Denied Service at Virginia Restaurant

[Karateka]

It's funny how hard people trip over themselves to play devil's advocate for racists. "But I'm not a racist myself, I don't support Trump or Sarah Sanders, I think they are awful, I'm just asking questions. This doesn't FEEL right!"

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I don't understand this.
I'm not conservative, or even american. Any fallout from this would never affect me. I have no reason to be defensive.
I honestly don't even know who sarah sanders is. Yet if I post my opinion that I'm not comfortable with deciding who can and cannot enter a business at the door I'm a racist?

How does that make any sense?
Political stance is not a race, it's not a gender...?
And in no way is my opinion on this matter even indicitive of my political stance.

I mean whatever, if you want to be happy about this I don't know what things are like in America. I'd rather cheer when they lose elections tbh.

 

[Sagadego17]

A restaurant run by a conservative sounds like a place I don't want to go. Ban me pls. I'll be forever banned from 0 restaurants in dc.

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bye!

 

[rjinaz]

A restaurant run by a conservative sounds like a place I don't want to go. Ban me pls. I'll be forever banned from 0 restaurants in dc.

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I live in Phoenix so it could actually affect me but I would love if those kinds of places made a declaration of an open ban on liberals. Let me know never to give them another dime. Works for me.

 

[mightynine]

 

[EJS]

And she was politely told to leave, it's not like they made a scene far as I can tell, and she didn't even pay for what she ate. She STILL decided to use her official account to blast them.

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So petty.

 

[NinjaScooter]

I don't understand this.
I'm not conservative, or even american. Any fallout from this would never affect me. I have no reason to be defensive.
I honestly don't even know who sarah sanders is. Yet if I post my opinion that I'm not comfortable with deciding who can and cannot enter a business at the door I'm a racist?

How does that make any sense?
Political stance is not a race, it's not a gender...?
And in no way is my opinion on this matter even indicitive of my political stance.

I mean whatever, if you want to be happy about this I don't know what things are like in America. I'd rather cheer when they lose elections tbh.

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Maybe do a modicum of research and learn who Sarah Sanders is before giving your opinion, as it's sort of important to the issue? Because whether you know it or not, you are essentially siding with a racist.

 

[EdibleKnife]

I don't understand this.
I'm not conservative, or even american. Any fallout from this would never affect me. I have no reason to be defensive.
I honestly don't even know who sarah sanders is. Yet if I post my opinion that I'm not comfortable with deciding who can and cannot enter a business at the door I'm a racist?

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So you're commenting without the actual context of why this was done or why people support it?

 

[onadesertedisland]

I don't understand this.
I'm not conservative, or even american. Any fallout from this would never affect me. I have no reason to be defensive.
I honestly don't even know who sarah sanders is. Yet if I post my opinion that I'm not comfortable with deciding who can and cannot enter a business at the door I'm a racist?

How does that make any sense?
Political stance is not a race, it's not a gender...?
And in no way is my opinion on this matter even indicitive of my political stance.

I mean whatever, if you want to be happy about this I don't know what things are like in America. I'd rather cheer when they lose elections tbh.

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This is not the first argument, by a long shot, that falls back to the "I'm not American, and I don't even know what is going on, but". I sense something...

 

[Coyote Starrk]

I don't understand this.
I'm not conservative, or even american. Any fallout from this would never affect me. I have no reason to be defensive.
I honestly don't even know who sarah sanders is. Yet if I post my opinion that I'm not comfortable with deciding who can and cannot enter a business at the door I'm a racist?

How does that make any sense?
Political stance is not a race, it's not a gender...?
And in no way is my opinion on this matter even indicitive of my political stance.

I mean whatever, if you want to be happy about this I don't know what things are like in America. I'd rather cheer when they lose elections tbh.

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Pro-tip: Don't defend racists and garbage human beings and maybe people won't assume you yourself are a racist and garbage human being.

 

[MCN]

They believe because the left is generally for gun control that the left will not stand up against them.

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It's other countries, especially within NATO, they need to worry about. NATO was set up after the second world war specifically in response to the Soviet threat. Now the Russian threat comes from within the White House, and Trump has in the past complained about how "unfair" NATO was, I give it a month before he pulls out. And then the shit will hit the fan.

 

[Karateka]

Fuck the retaliation. They already gained the right to discriminate against LGBTQ+ people and that wasn't a retaliation so I'm not sure why we care about the "conservative response". Let them respond, we have to fight for what we supposedly stand for

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As someone who is not american the partyism is very frigthening. The split is wide now but something like this could slowly make it wider.
The way to fix that is to beat them in the next election and change the policy. it's not right but I don't know how else to deal with it.

I live in Phoenix so it could actually affect me but I would love if those kinds of places made a declaration of an open ban on liberals. Let me know never to give them another dime. Works for me.

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That is messed up and honestly should be on the news in my opinion.

 

[Autodidact]

Fuck the retaliation. They already gained the right to discriminate against LGBTQ+ people and that wasn't a retaliation so I'm not sure why we care about the "conservative response". Let them respond, we have to fight for what we supposedly stand for

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Sorry to digress, but I have to correct some misinformation here.

The baker case gave no one the "right" to discriminate against LGBT people. SCOTUS merely found that the commission that charged the baker had acted with malice and decided the case on procedural grounds. The ruling explicitly said that LGBT people shouldn't have to face discrimination. A "clean" case brought before them will likely result in LGBT people being designated a protected class under the Civil Rights Act.

Again, Sarah Huckabee Sanders has no right to service at this restaurant because being a mendacious attacker of the free press and an enabler of child concentration camps falls outside a protected class. I think she and her ilk should be shunned by every establishment! I just wanted to get the facts straight.

 

[I Don't Like]

Ehhh do not really agree with this.
I don't see why any restaurant or business should have the right to remove any customer who has not done something unsavoury within that business.
We should not get to the point when restaurants pick and choose who can eat there

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Literally every business reserves the right to refuse service.

Fuck me. What planet do some of you live on?

 

[Deleted member 20296]

I don't understand this.
I'm not conservative, or even american. Any fallout from this would never affect me. I have no reason to be defensive.
I honestly don't even know who sarah sanders is. Yet if I post my opinion that I'm not comfortable with deciding who can and cannot enter a business at the door I'm a racist?

How does that make any sense?
Political stance is not a race, it's not a gender...?
And in no way is my opinion on this matter even indicitive of my political stance.

I mean whatever, if you want to be happy about this I don't know what things are like in America. I'd rather cheer when they lose elections tbh.

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I'm neither of those things either, but I would kick the mouthpiece of an almost nazi out of my shop in a heartbeat.

Fuck everything about Donald trump and any shithead that hitches their wagon to his shit for money.

Also, any business in any country I've ever heard of can tell someone to go jump, this is standard. Can be risky to use that privilege, but it totally exists

 

[Deleted member 7462]

As someone who is not american the partyism is very frigthening. The split is wide now but something like this could slowly make it wider.
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As "not [an] American," you should probably ask more questions and make less definitive statements.

 

[saenima]

I honestly don't even know who sarah sanders is.

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JFC

You people are so fucking transparent.

 

[Hiphopopotamus]

If Conservatives want to reevaluate who is covered as a protected class, adding political affiliation and sexual identification, I am open to compromise.

I bet they'll hate ''right to work" laws being effectively neutered, but that's their cross to bear, not mine

 

[Deleted member 14518]

A boycott of admin officials is not discrimination and is a valid form of protest. Trump admin has jumped the shark.

 

[Not]

Oh no, the poor United States White House Press Secretary

 

[Alucrid]

I don't understand this.
I'm not conservative, or even american. Any fallout from this would never affect me. I have no reason to be defensive.
I honestly don't even know who sarah sanders is. Yet if I post my opinion that I'm not comfortable with deciding who can and cannot enter a business at the door I'm a racist?

How does that make any sense?
Political stance is not a race, it's not a gender...?
And in no way is my opinion on this matter even indicitive of my political stance.

I mean whatever, if you want to be happy about this I don't know what things are like in America. I'd rather cheer when they lose elections tbh.

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seems like it's less about you not being american and more about you being intellectually lazy

 

[NinjaScooter]

This is not the first argument, by a long shot, that falls back to the "I'm not American, and I don't even know what is going on, but". I sense something...

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You're strange american laws and cultures confuse and frighten me. How am I to understand that some of you actually frown upon racists and bigots?

 

[Volimar]

This is why she's being treated "unfairly" she lies and misleads people on Trump's behalf every day.

 

[rjinaz]

As someone who is not american the partyism is very frigthening. The split is wide now but something like this could slowly make it wider.
The way to fix that is to beat them in the next election and change the policy. it's not right but I don't know how else to deal with it.



That is messed up and honestly should be on the news in my opinion.

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It would be and that's the point. If the local Mexican food place I frequent is actually ran by alt-righters, I'd have no clue as of now. If they announced liberals are not welcome, then I'd know and I'd never visit again. They did me a service. You wouldn't hear me complain about morality or discrimination.

That would have no way to enforce it anyway. That's the difference here, everybody knows Sanders is a liar and a racist and that's the problem they have with her.

 

[El Bombastico]

I don't understand this.
I'm not conservative, or even american.

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Next time do some research before you humiliate yourself.

 

[Dark Knight]

I honestly don't even know who sarah sanders is.

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go back to sleep child, this thread was never meant for you

 

[EdibleKnife]

As someone who is not american the partyism is very frigthening. The split is wide now but something like this could slowly make it wider.
The way to fix that is to beat them in the next election and change the policy. it's not right but I don't know how else to deal with it.

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A) I don't plan to not vote. I'm still going to vote and stress that people like SHS are held accountable and know they are unwelcome among people with empathy B) You think partyism is frightening only because you're minimizing how much the Republican Party isn't interested in actual politics but rather punishing minorities like myself for existing. Partyism isn't as frightening as not knowing whether your sexuality or race will be criminalized in a year.

 

[Karateka]

As "not [an] American," you should probably ask more questions and make less definitive statements.

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None of my statements were intended to be definitive, most were speculative or were questions

I'm sorry if my posts mislead anyone about me and I clearly am a distraction in this thread so I will leave.
I do not support Sarah Sanders or anyhing Republican, nor do I disagree that a business cannot technically tell anyone to leave.
I have just never heard of it happening and worry where it's wide-spread use could lead.
That is honestly all. Sorry if I disturbed anyone.

 

[El Bombastico]

I'm sorry if my posts mislead anyone about me and I clearly am a distraction in this thread so I will leave.
I do not support Sarah Sanders or anyhing Republican, nor do I disagree that a business cannot technically tell anyone to leave.
I have just never heard of it happening and worry where it's wide-spread use could lead.
That is honestly all. Sorry if I disturbed anyone.

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You're not fooling anyone.

 

[Heisenberg726]

You're not fooling anyone.

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What an unnecessary post.

 

[kamineko]

If you're new to being worried about America, this is a REALLY weird place to start

 

[EJS]

I'm sorry if my posts mislead anyone about me and I clearly am a distraction in this thread so I will leave.
I do not support Sarah Sanders or anyhing Republican, nor do I disagree that a business cannot technically tell anyone to leave.
I have just never heard of it happening and worry where it's wide-spread use could lead.
That is honestly all. Sorry if I disturbed anyone.

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Eh, don't worry about it so much.

 

[onadesertedisland]

Man this is transparent...

 

[Blade24070]

I am not saying I am surprised, I am just saying it was tacky of her and reckless.

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Sorry I meant to just write "Right." I knew what you meant.

 

[Deleted member 9330]

I'm going to break with the crowd and say that discriminating against fascists should be legal, encouraged, and universally practiced. No wishy washy lib equivocation, just let bad people know they aren't welcome anywhere.

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I like you

 

[Hiphopopotamus]

I'm sorry if my posts mislead anyone about me and I clearly am a distraction in this thread so I will leave.
I do not support Sarah Sanders or anyhing Republican, nor do I disagree that a business cannot technically tell anyone to leave.
I have just never heard of it happening and worry where it's wide-spread use could lead.
That is honestly all. Sorry if I disturbed anyone.

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Bruh, America has a history of discriminatory laws and customs which marginalized millions of people based on nothing more than their appearance. This experience is within the lifetimes of parents and grandparents, and which have reverberated into the 21st century.

We got issues in this country, which are nuanced and generational. Systemic at their most potent. So you have to expect strong opinions when it appears you're being aloof and non-commital

 

[EJS]

Sorry I meant to just write "Right." I knew what you meant.

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*fist bump.*

 

[Deleted member 19844]

So we support a restaurant owners right to deny service to someone based on their beliefs?

I can't agree with this.

Sarah Sanders is a liar and has a belief system I am staunchly opposed to, but public institutions should have no right to discriminate.

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A restaurant is not a public institution and she was not refused service for being a part of any sort of protected class.

 

[More_Badass]

To the people calling this "discrimination", if Trump wanted to drop by a restaurant or appear on a show (like Obama did with Anthony Bourdain or on SNL and other president before him have done), and that establishment said "sorry, we aren't interested in hosting you", would that be considered discrimination too? Because that situation is no different than this one.

 

[Spartancarver]

I'm not conservative, or even american.
I honestly don't even know who sarah sanders is.

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Mhmmmmmm

Yet you feel the need to play Devil's advocate and just happen to be defending a known racist / white supremacist / Nazi support staff.

Honest mistake I'm sure

 

[Sagadego17]

I don't understand this.
I'm not conservative, or even american. Any fallout from this would never affect me. I have no reason to be defensive.
I honestly don't even know who sarah sanders is. Yet if I post my opinion that I'm not comfortable with deciding who can and cannot enter a business at the door I'm a racist?

How does that make any sense?
Political stance is not a race, it's not a gender...?
And in no way is my opinion on this matter even indicitive of my political stance.

I mean whatever, if you want to be happy about this I don't know what things are like in America. I'd rather cheer when they lose elections tbh.

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you're so full of shit it's not even funny.

 

[Alexandros]

So you had to talk to people to start to realize why serving people who imprison children in camps, hate minorities, lie every day, act like belligerent children, and make decisions that only serve the wealthy and empowered- is something that doesn't have to happen and can make someone physically ill?
Well good for fucking you

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Fuck your better person spiel. Go be a better person on the_donald and see how it goes over there.

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Ok guys, thanks.

 

[Imran]

So we support a restaurant owners right to deny service to someone based on their beliefs?

I can't agree with this.

Sarah Sanders is a liar and has a belief system I am staunchly opposed to, but public institutions should have no right to discriminate.

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So you'd be 100% okay with Richard Spencer coming into a restaurant?

You'd just serve him with a smile on your face? "I sure don't believe in your jew-killing policy, but I'll be damned if I won't make sure my cooks serve you?"

 

[Chamberlin]

So much pointless postmodern moralizing in this thread. "We shouldn't do this to people like her because it would be bad if it happened to people like us." Then don't be like her! It's that simple. She's wrong, we're right, and that matters. Should we not imprison criminals because we wouldn't want to be imprisoned? It is fine, and usually even a good thing, to socially punish bad people for being bad. You may be inclined to think of businesses serving customers as sacred ground. You probably think about all the civil rights issues we've had about businesses discriminating against protected classes. That has nothing to do with this. This isn't bigotry, this is just saying no to fascism, and it's not wrong to do that.

 

[Spartancarver]

Still felt the need to tweet about it and name the restaurant though, eh?

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Of course she did. She's a petty cunt.

 

[Kintaro]

Such a travesty must never be forgotten.

 

[Chome Chome]

None of my statements were intended to be definitive, most were speculative or were questions

I'm sorry if my posts mislead anyone about me and I clearly am a distraction in this thread so I will leave.
I do not support Sarah Sanders or anyhing Republican, nor do I disagree that a business cannot technically tell anyone to leave.
I have just never heard of it happening and worry where it's wide-spread use could lead.
That is honestly all. Sorry if I disturbed anyone.

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There's nothing wrong with supporting Sarah Sanders or anything Republican. There can't be a discussion if you don't "disturb."

 

[Spartancarver]

The only thing I can tell you is that I try to be the better person in my real life

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Haha

More like you try to come across as an enlightened ivory tower on an online forum until you get called out on that bullshit

Something something meet in the middle the middle is a great to be something something

 

[El Bombastico]

I love how we've had like 4 or 5 "Just asking questions!" dudes come in here to start shit and each one has run away with their tails tucked between their legs.

 

[NoRéN]

Ok guys, thanks.

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There's another thread calling for your whataboutisms.

 

[Alexandros]

Haha

More like you try to come across as an enlightened ivory tower on an online forum until you get called out on that bullshit

Something something meet in the middle the middle is a great to be something something

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Ok

There's another thread calling for your whataboutisms.

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I'll see what I can do.