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Saudi girl flees her family stuck in Bangkok has her passport allegedly taken away by Saudi officials at Bangkok Airport

Feb 3, 2018
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So this just happened an hour ago a girl by the name of Rahaf Mohammed al-Qunun who claims she has a visa to Australia was transiting through Bangkok airport claims she had her passport taken away by Saudi officials at the airport and she now faces deportation back to Saudi Arabia.

She has renouced her religion and fears she will be killed if she is repatriataed back to Saudi Arabia the Thai government wants to put her back on a plane to Kuwait were she flew from, and her family is apparently waiting for her there.

This happened to another Saudi girl in the Philippines who also tried to run away from her family and she was has not been heard from since she was forced on the plane kicking and screaming.

I don't know what to say here I hope she managed to avoid deportation.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...held-bangkok-fears-will-be-killed-repatriated
 

MasterVampire

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Oct 27, 2017
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How are they allowed to take her passport?

She’s done nothing wrong she’s just a passenger going from one destination to another
 
Oct 25, 2017
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How are they allowed to take her passport?

She’s done nothing wrong she’s just a passenger going from one destination to another
The Saudi government says the passport is no longer valid to travel on. Any country can do it, and any other country does not really have a choice but to refuse onward travel.
 

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How are they allowed to take her passport?

She’s done nothing wrong she’s just a passenger going from one destination to another

Passports are typically government property and passport passage agreements are typically between each nation or border involved. So while it's confounding and disturbing it's not necessarily illegal and may in fact be contractual - there are international laws to protect individuals but there are few international protections between you and your passport.

I don't know what the case here is. However she has a very straightforward asylum case in many nations and I know Saudi Arabia likes to claim citizens are free to live their lives, it's a ruthlessly strict theocratic kingdom and her life is in danger right now regardless of where she ends up and she's commited the secondary crime of being an adult woman trying to behave independently and is already being accused of apostasy.

I'm not ever going to respect theocratic controls over gender or democracy or give a respectful cultural mulligan to ownership of people no matter how many surahs or traditions it's wrapped in and the current government's sham theater of reform is about as honest as its crown prince is kind and selfless.

If your culture and religion can permit or mandate the possible execution or murder of your children for simply choosing to assert that they are not property then you have some soul searching to do and you were only a good parent up until the moment you were party to that. Now you're a subject first and a parent somewhere quite far down a person list.

The Saudi government says the passport is no longer valid to travel on. Any country can do it, and any other country does not really have a choice but to refuse onward travel.
Plenty of countries will grant entry and passage and connection to deserving individuals with legitimate fears for their safety - even from and often especially from their native governments. I'm not sure what Thai /Saudi arrangements or exceptions are.
 
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Cas

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Oct 27, 2017
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That's terrible. Being a citizen of SA is being the prisoner of a theocratic autocracy. You have to worship and think like them or be imprisoned or cut to pieces.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Someone needs to step up and provide her with asylum. I’m hoping Canada steps up. The Saudis already hate us, and it started with us questioning their imprisonment of innocent people.
 
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norwegiandude86
Feb 3, 2018
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UPDATE: She has blocked her door in the hotel she was placed in and her plane left without her to Kuwait she is still in Bangkok and UN representatives are claiming Thai authorities are refusing them access to her.
 

Smiles

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Oct 27, 2017
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I wish her the best


Human beings should have the right to walk away from what they don't believe in.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Fucking world man, a girl who just want to feel safe and live a normal life without all religious bullshit and has to flee from her own country/family to do it because of the safety of her life cause she renounced her beliefs. I will never understand religion, and I never want to even try.

Hope that news is correct and that she ends up safe.
 
Dec 18, 2018
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Poor girl. Please don't let her story end in tragedy. It is simply evil to send an innocent woman to her certain death just because one has to obey the rules. Can't the King of Thailand help her, he seems to be pretty chill.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Poor girl. Please don't let her story end in tragedy. It is simply evil to send an innocent woman to her certain death just because one has to obey the rules. Can't the King of Thailand help her, he seems to be pretty chill.
If the current king is the one i'm thinking of right now ... i'd say there's a big chance he cares more about his pet dog than about what happens to the girl.

The UNHCR is likely her only chance to find some shelter, if the thai law enforcement does decide to send her back. But i'm not really well informed in these things.
 
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norwegiandude86
Feb 3, 2018
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If the current king is the one i'm thinking of right now ... i'd say there's a big chance he cares more about his pet dog than about what happens to the girl.

The UNHCR is likely her only chance to find some shelter, if the thai law enforcement does decide to send her back. But i'm not really well informed in these things.
He aint King yet he has not been crowned also yes that's the guy who had the princess of Thailand serve his dog cake topless.

Not even joking there is video
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Compared with attitudes toward applying sharia in the domestic or criminal spheres, Muslims in the countries surveyed are significantly less supportive of the death penalty for converts.19 Nevertheless, in six of the 20 countries where there are adequate samples for analysis, at least half of those who favor making Islamic law the official law also support executing apostates.

Taking the life of those who abandon Islam is most widely supported in Egypt (86%) and Jordan (82%). Roughly two-thirds who want sharia to be the law of the land also back this penalty in the Palestinian territories (66%). In the other countries surveyed in the Middle East-North Africa region, fewer than half take this view.

In the South Asian countries of Afghanistan and Pakistan, strong majorities of those who favor making Islamic law the official law of the land also approve of executing apostates (79% and 76%, respectively). However, in Bangladesh far fewer (44%) share this view.

A majority of Malaysian Muslims (62%) who want to see sharia as their country’s official law also support taking the lives of those who convert to other faiths. But fewer take this position in neighboring Thailand (27%) and Indonesia (18%).

In Central Asia as well as Southern and Eastern Europe, only in Tajikistan (22%) do more than a fifth of Muslims who want sharia as the official law of the land also condone the execution of apostates. Support for killing converts to other faiths falls below one-in-ten in Albania (8%) and Kazakhstan (4%).
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/...ligion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/

Apostasy is sadly still ingrained in many cultures.

The UK is a sham and won't help here out of fear of upsetting the radicals/our country not being "safe enough"

Britain has not offered asylum to a Pakistani Christian woman freed after eight years on death row for blasphemy because of fear it would prompt “unrest” in the UK and attacks on embassies, her supporters claim.

Asia Bibi and her family had appealed for sanctuary in Britain after her conviction was quashed by Pakistan's supreme court.

The acquittal of the 53-year-old Catholic farmworker prompted days of demonstrations by hardline Islamist parties in Pakistan who had campaigned for her to be hanged.

The mother-of-five remains hidden in Pakistan after Imran Khan's government agreed to allow a petition against the court decision, as part of a deal to halt the protests.

A UK campaign group in touch with the family said the British government was working to help Asia Bibi, but had stopped short of offering asylum.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...fered-uk-asylum-amid-concerns-unrest-attacks/

Hope she gets somewhere safe.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I hope they sneak her out of that hotel room. I don't care how yly do it but just do it. Give the young woman her freedom.
 
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norwegiandude86
Feb 3, 2018
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UPDATE: She has gotten her passport back and has left the airport escorted by UN officals she is now on Thai soil and has the right to apply for asylum now.