It's definitely the details in which its portrayed, but I didn't consider the human factor as well (which is a pretty big thing. Bloody destruction of fictional monsters is very different from detailed gore of humans).I don't think Bayonetta ever kills humans in that way either, mostly weird expressionless monsters. Having a game where some of the developers were made to watch actual blood and gore for reference until it messed them up in Smash isn't really something I can ever get behind (not that its likely at all since the IP is actually banned in Japan?)
You said that as if no developers do research. Like we recently had even The Last of Us Part II devs talk about making violence and gore more real and how.Having a game where some of the developers were made to watch actual blood and gore for reference until it messed them up
True, but that also sounds really busted :P
imagine pulling someone into a smash attack
Ah yes, because Silent Hill definitely has the same level of gore that MK has.You said that as if no developers do research. Like we recently had even The Last of Us Part II devs talk about making violence and gore more real and how.
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On-topic, my vote also goes to Mortal Kombat. Classic Scorpion or Sub-Zero, and the whole pallete swaped ninjas as alternate colors.
Some of the reactions around the violence of MK not fitting with the game, when we even have a chibi Pyramid Head in Bomberman...despite all his appearances killing people even in the movies.
Like.. is a game. If a character ends in Smash is because of popularity and developers, not because of common sense.
Pyramid Head decapitates, cuts in half, rips apart and removes the flesh from people (even more explicit in the movies). Yet a chibi version was made so that Silent Hill had a rep in Bomberman. All I'm saying that those using violence/gore as an excuse to not have a MK rep, doesn't make sense.Ah yes, because Silent Hill definitely has the same level of gore that MK has.
Also if you really want to use the popularity argument its non-existent in Japan, the place where Nintendo/Sakurai is based? The game in which only 1 of the playable chars is from a western company?
You said that as if no developers do research. Like we recently had even The Last of Us Part II devs talk about making violence and gore more real and how.
You brought it to the discussion as a reason for not wanting a rep from Mortal Kombat in Smash:"other companies also might have given employees ptsd" doesn't really disprove or justify anything.
Like what is your point even?
So what was your point then?Having a game where some of the developers were made to watch actual blood and gore for reference until it messed them up in Smash isn't really something I can ever get behind (not that its likely at all since the IP is actually banned in Japan?)
Yoshimitsu. Reps two series at once and would fit fight into Smash.
Y'all saying Moral Kombat do realize that the series legit does not exist in Japan, right?
It's literally banned in Japan. And we just got Banjo & Kazooie!Its not as big as it is here in the US, but you can't say "legit does not exist". Besides, they gotta put a Western developed character in the game at some point, dammit.
Their point is...in their post. You yourself are acknowledging it as something they don't want. They didn't say it can't happen.You brought it to the discussion as a reason for not wanting a rep from Mortal Kombat in Smash:
So what was your point then?
MK literally does not exist in Japan. The games don't release there at all.Its not as big as it is here in the US, but you can't say "legit does not exist". Besides, they gotta put a Western developed character in the game at some point, dammit.
Its not as big as it is here in the US, but you can't say "legit does not exist". Besides, they gotta put a Western developed character in the game at some point, dammit.
FUCK YEAH PAINWHEELFor fighting games the only choice that matters is Scorpion/SubZero.
As for most interesting I would be very pleased and very surprised if Skullgirls characters made the cut. Nintendo has done some crazy shit in the past but I can't really see them accepting body horror which a large chunk of the mostly female cast flirts with.
MK literally does not exist in Japan. The games don't release there at all.
If we get any more Western characters, they're going to be from series that Japan likes.
I think it really should be Kazuya Mishima.
Bamco still don't have a rep even though they're developing the core gameplay and more. Capcom and SNK got a rep before them. Tekken also is at top hype levels again right now.
And Kazuya seems to be the posterboy equivalent for Tekken as Ryu is for Street Fighter. At least he was presented as such for Street Fighter X Tekken for example.
He'd also be a more interesting character than most vanilla posterboy character because of how they have implemented the Devil Kazuya moves into his regular character lately. Devil moves and transformation could be pretty dope.
It can't be that much of an audience if the games don't even release there. Nintendo has a ton of options for DLC characters, you'd think it would be obvious to expect them to pick a series that actually releases in their country.MK doesn't release there at all due to CERO. But there is an older audience that likes MK over there.
Sub zero and Scorpion transcend something as basic as your bloodlust for gore.
Fighting game.First and foremost someone from Rhythm Tengoku. It's a nice, successful Nintendo series made by the Metroid team (!) which STILL lacks reps.
Then following Terry as a SNK rep I'd add Bonk as Hudson/PC-Engine rep and Guybrush Threepwood as a Western PC rep. Like Terry they aren't really associated with Nintendo, but are game icons.