Hey, you want to keep calling him unqualified, be my guest. Did a whole lot of good for us last year.
Scarborough: Trump aides told me they thought Trump was in early stages of dementia
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This kind of "reporting" is shockingly irresponsible on the part of Joe Scarborough. I simply cannot imagine how many rules of journalistic ethics have been violated by it.
Do you have a link to that video? I'd be interested to see the comparisons.
By "dumb", he means "unintelligent". He's saying 45 is unintelligent, not demented. I agree.
If a racist xenophobic egomaniac with a nuclear football is going through dementia, thats something the american public should know, don't you think?
The GOP is so fucking nuts, they would probably let him run again even if they had it confirmed. And we would still vote for him even though everything coming out of his mouth makes even less sense than before.
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Agreed but when dealing with Trump I don't think it's unfair since he's accusing Joe of being a murderer.
They should know about it through properly vetted, investigative reporting where information is corroborated with multiple sources and fact-checked. That is the type of reporting that the American public -- as incompetent as a large portion of it may be -- deserves. They should not "know" about it through a fucking tweet based on the blathering of "Trump aides" who probably told it to Joe for "the lulz".
I will. And yeah, the propaganda of the far right/russian troll farms and bigotry is strong. Calling him unqualified didn't matter to his deplorables, their hatred for women and liberals mattered. Same reason they're going to elect a pedophile.
I don't think calling him qualified or not had much of an impact on that. Doesn't change anything.
You don't need to have dementia to be an asshole or psychotic. Saying that Trump may not have dementia yet isn't supporting him, folks.
Yeah, but we're talking about an actual medical illness.
Ths comes one day after Trump insinuated Scarborough killed an intern.
Now you are suddenly shook about ethics and standards.
Joe isn’t a journalist, he’s a TV personality and former politician.
Here's a link to the video. I'm not familiar with the host of this show and I don't believe he's an academic so take this for what it's worth - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3CFwkoqxIs
Unqualified based on background is one thing.
Being unfit due to metal illness is a whole other issue.
See this shit a lot. Ignore POTUS Trump, hand-wring about "irresponsible" detractors, all the while saying they don't actually support the man...
Useless.
I feel like people have just become used to Trump doing shit things now, so it no longer fazes them no matter what he does, but when somebody else does it, it's still fresh.
I will never get used to Trump. Never. Each and every unethical thing he does deserves the same amount of scrutiny (and perhaps outrage when warranted) as the last thing he did.
It may be fake news, but Joe's comments can be theorized factually, unlike Trump's comments which are almost always debunked before he even brings them up.
IMO - fuck it. Fight fire with fire.
Trump trashes everything critical of him, calling it all fake news.
Well, follow Steve Bannon's advice: Double-Down on the "Fake News", especially when Trump can't debunk it and when it might actually be real news. Real or not, force Trump to address it, aka, the Lyndon Johnson strategy. Plant the seed in his head and watch Trump further decimate himself with more outrageous tweets.
IMO - fuck it. Fight fire with fire.
Trump trashes everything critical of him, calling it all fake news.
Well, follow Steve Bannon's advice: Double-Down on the "Fake News", especially when Trump can't debunk it and when it might actually be real news. Real or not, force Trump to address it, aka, the Lyndon Johnson strategy. Plant the seed in his head and watch Trump further decimate himself with more outrageous tweets.
But the disingenuous trolls want to pull a 'gotcha' on those smarmy libs. I respond by saying then he's exactly as qualified as a convicted murderous pedophile.
They aren't arguing in good faith when they bring shit like that up. They are just trying to remove meaning.
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You will never get a doctor on record to state if he has an illness or not, there is a rule among the psychiatric community not to diagnose a public figure without having direct hands access to the person in question. Unless a call was made to require the president to get said analysis we will never have any integrity in actually diagnosing him which is why we can only get these second hand accounts.
Nah, it's pretty obvious and pathetic what they're trying to do.
The tax bill is about to pass and war with NK is a guarantee unless the 25th is invoked.
This is just the sort of nonsense that I'd expect from someone who thinks that Thanos is pink.
Excusing Trump's stupid behavior with a mental illness is just giving him the easy way out. He's a pos because that's just what he is.
Oh yeha none of us are clinical psychiatrists. Me neither.
But I don't think it's anything to do with dementia I don't think he's a sociopath either.
He's doesnt have a total psychosis. He's on the spectrtum, and between being a full on maniac there is the veneer of donald trump.
He thinks his building in DC is 10 stories higher than it actually is.
He thinks the Mueller investigation is going to end this year.
A lot of the stuff he projects as fact is in sheer conflict with reality. Even when explained to him, even presented with reality, he won't accept that reality. It's a psychosis.
I don’t know how much news media people here consume on a daily basis, but I am unfortunately aware of everything Donald Trump does every day and how it’s reported in TV and print and the ramifications such actions have in the US and abroad.
It is clear to people that consume that much information that Trump’s mental state has deteriorated since he started his bid for the presidency. It is important to recognize the danger that this poses and people that aren’t aware need to be informed of this. Republicans are playing a dangerous game by refusing to act.
It is clear to people that consume that much information that Trump’s mental state has deteriorated since he started his bid for the presidency. It is important to recognize the danger that this poses and people that aren’t aware need to be informed of this. Republicans are playing a dangerous game by refusing to act.
And Republicans will still get behind him because they are spineless whores.
can't trust anyone still using windows xp. on that same token, how has no one hacked this guys computer to find trumps medical records?They could just ask Trump's doctor.
Unfortunately, I think it's wishful thinking and that he's actually a racist biggoted arsehole real estate magnate raised with a silver spoon in his mouth by a klansman.
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federal crimes never stopped anyone before, i monitor hacking attempts on my network on a daily basis. there's plenty upside--if his medical records leaked and proved he had dementia, his ability to continue to be POTUS would come into question
It doesn't, he's been that his whole life. It just explains a whole lot about his behavior the past few years.
i sampled his face with mspaint realtime dropper technologies:Hey, looks pink to me is all I'm saying.
looks pink, don't worry the technology is stable.
So if you wish bad things to happen to, say, the KKK, you're automatically as bad as them? Nice try.
He probably stopped paying for his AOL subscription years ago and never got back online.
cantitbeboth.jpgUnfortunately, I think it's wishful thinking and that he's actually a racist biggoted arsehole real estate magnate raised with a silver spoon in his mouth by a klansman.
Matter doesn't even have a color. It just has reflectance characteristics. If you put a "white" object under green light then it will look as green as can be.Hey, looks pink to me is all I'm saying.
He looks about like what I'd expect a light purple (under white light) to look like under yellow-orange light.
Is anyone saying it does? These are not exclusive concepts. Both can apply here and be true.
That said, as far as my own feelings go, as a psychology major, I must say that it would be completely inappropriate to speculate about this type of thing, no matter how much I might hate a person (in fact, if anything, that's all the more reason to be guarded that I don't give into biases and say or act in a way different than I would anyone else). This type of thing can only be determined by testing and making guesses about this type of thing not only would violate all kinds of ethical codes by anyone actually qualified to make those kind of determinations, but is also really, really just tasteless and out of place, no matter much of a terrible person they might be and how much I might despise them. Either way, he's a piece of garbage and needs to go regardless.
If he does have dementia, that of course makes everything even worse and that much of a reason he needs to step down, but that's not for me to determine and I would never attempt to do that with anyone without the proper diagnostic procedures being completed by a qualified, trustworthy professional. To do otherwise would go against everything I learned at university. Of course, to be clear, everyone has their own opinions--that can't be helped, and is perfectly natural, and there is nothing wrong with that, and that applies to me as much as anyone else. I definitely have my own leanings on this subject. but I would never vocalize them because it's not ethical for me to do so and my opinion of the man remains the same regardless. Same with discussion about the possibilities that Trump not only has dementia but it's comorbid with NPD or any other personality disorder. Not my place to say, would be completely inappropriate to do so, and changes nothing regardles.
EDIT: And to be clear, I'm speaking for myself here, as a psych major. I'm not trying to shut down discussion. I know people are going to continue discussing this subject, just as they have been for over a year now, and they have every right to that, and I would never say otherwise. I'm only speaking for myself, as someone who's studied these subjects, and how that affects my stance (or rather, ability to take a stance on this).
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I've been saying this for awhile, and not as an excuse.
Just watching old tapes of him justifies some level of doubt about his mental fitness.
Yes. He was always a dirt bag. But now he's a dirt bag with dementia and the nuclear football.
Just watching old tapes of him justifies some level of doubt about his mental fitness.
Yes. He was always a dirt bag. But now he's a dirt bag with dementia and the nuclear football.
He's been on record with the Justice Department as discriminating since 1973.
There are lots of racists who don't lapse into incoherence every time they turn on social media. It would not surprise me at all to learn that Trump was mentally unwell (in addition to being a bigot, of course).Unfortunately, I think it's wishful thinking and that he's actually a racist biggoted arsehole real estate magnate raised with a silver spoon in his mouth by a klansman.