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Scenes that you Hate in Movies that you Love
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That would be Joss Whedon. To be fair to him, the script he wrote had Toad spouting random toad facts every time he did anything in the movie. Storm saying that to him at the end was supposed to be a big "Take that" moment to the annoying self-aggrandizing trivia guy. A rewrite after Whedon was off the project removed the toad facts running gag but kept the punchline for reasons nobody will ever understand.
It is so weird when people pull this one out as something that doesn't work or is bad. It's melodramatic, sure, but so's the whole movie, and the entire point of Winslow's character arc is that he can't bring himself to draw his gun anymore, but McClane's heroism inspires him to be able to draw his gun again to save McClane at the end. He doesn't have "no problem" doing it, it's the biggest moment his character has in the movie. Look at his face in the shot, he can't even believe he did it.
In the book
the dead men of Dunharrow help Aragorn capture the ships of the Corsairs and then he releases them. The army he brings with him to the Pelennor are made up of some rangers of the north, Gimli, Legolas, Elladan, Elrohir and men from the south of Gondor.
OP nails it. It's like I was watching an episode of Doctor Who all of a sudden! (I love Doctor Who, but I thought I was in a theater for Episode fucking VII)
Anyway, the masturbation scene in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. But I guess that was the point.
It didn't happen that way on the books.
Instead of winning the battle for everyone, they helped Aragorn against the Corsairs of Umbar - their usefulness was just killing the corsairs so Aragorn's forces could take the ships. That was it.
This is what I was going to post. The "love is an actual force in the universe" theme did play into the ending of the movie but I was poorly written and poorly delivered. I cringe a little bit everytime I watch that scene.
Its crazy that Kurt Cobain was going to be the heroin dealer. He probably would've changed some of it because he was very anti-racist.
Barely remembered this so I went back to find it and you both were completely right. This scene is a legitimate embarrassing stain on the rest:
I was only 8 when Cobain died so his death didn't impact me the it might have others at the time. Would've been cool to see him in Pulp Fiction though.
Mortal Kombat - Lui Kang defeats Shang Tsung by throwing a fireball and knocking him into a bed of spikes. It's straight out the games and awesome...until Lui Kang walks over the edge and say FLAWLESS VICTORY.
Bitch you were getting your ass beat
Bitch you were getting your ass beat
ok fair enough. just seems the issue is moreso with the scripts faithfulness to the book than the scene itself. Since only Aragorn, Legolas and Gimly left the camp, they would have had to explain why the corsairs were full of real people instead of just the dead that Aragorn picked up in the mountain.
The beginning of John Wick. Obviously I understand why it's important to the movie. Doesn't make me want to watch it again.
I LOVE Jurassic Park, even the "boring" parts without dinosaurs or the park entertain me greatly, but i cant stand that intro where they try to unload a raptor or w/e
i skip past it entirely when i watch the movie, the movie for me starts with the lawyer looking for grant
it completely ruins the buildup of the movie when it almost blows its load in the first 5 minutes, and then completely slows the pace down, without it the movie has an almost perfect curve of ratcheting things up
i also feel for this movie the audience should have the same relationship/expectations of the dinosaurs that the characters do, that intro completely shatters the idea by putting the audience 50 minutes ahead of the characters ffs
i skip past it entirely when i watch the movie, the movie for me starts with the lawyer looking for grant
it completely ruins the buildup of the movie when it almost blows its load in the first 5 minutes, and then completely slows the pace down, without it the movie has an almost perfect curve of ratcheting things up
i also feel for this movie the audience should have the same relationship/expectations of the dinosaurs that the characters do, that intro completely shatters the idea by putting the audience 50 minutes ahead of the characters ffs
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Some argue that it might be intentional to show that Decker is no pure-hearted hero type of character. it's uncomfortable to watch, that much I can say for sure.
As is the scene in X-Men that you mention there.
Darwin was a character for maybe 5 minutes and then he got killed off.
I find the booby-trap scene in A Nightmare on Elm Street both silly and unessacary.
Everything else in it is pitch perfect.
Everything else in it is pitch perfect.
I'd say the last third was pretty dumb. It becomes a movie about hiding before the "bad guys" come. It seemed bigger than that.
In addition to what others have mentioned re: that Blade Runner scene, I would add that the sax music in that scene sounds really dated and cheesy compared to the rest of the soundtrack.
Came to post this. The intention of the scene (as far as I can recall) being that Rachel does actually want to engage with Deckard but can't trust her emotions is so widely missed as to be unbelievable. As it stands, Deckard, after being rejected by a woman who has no where to go a no one to confide in, slams the door on her trying to leave, shoves her against a wall, physically asserts himself on her and tells her to make out with him as she cries in the corner. It's absolutely unbelievable.
The justification that Deckard isn't a sympathetic character only partially excuses it. The film clearly intended the scene to be romantic, what with the sexy jazz music playing underneath (literally called 'Love Theme'). The next time we see Rachel, she's 'in love' with Deckard and they run away together. What?
Deckard shooting Zhora in cold blood: good moral ambiguity.
Deckard raping a woman to love: monster-tier evil.
If someone mentions the lunch scene or the dinner scene in Jurassic Park like in the GAF thread... hoo boy. Oh wait, the raptor unloading? WAH?
I never minded the rathtar sequence and I was kinda blown away by how vitriolic some people's reactions were. But I will say the Resistance meeting in TFA was pretty rough. And really, the entire transition from the second to third act. It all grinds to a hault and then proceeds to drop way too much exposition with some rushed dialogue that all just feels like "fuck it, we gotta drop all this right now so we can get the show running again". I adore the movie otherwise, but I really don't have much positive to say on that section. I doubt JJ and Kasdan do either though, to be honest.
I never minded the rathtar sequence and I was kinda blown away by how vitriolic some people's reactions were. But I will say the Resistance meeting in TFA was pretty rough. And really, the entire transition from the second to third act. It all grinds to a hault and then proceeds to drop way too much exposition with some rushed dialogue that all just feels like "fuck it, we gotta drop all this right now so we can get the show running again". I adore the movie otherwise, but I really don't have much positive to say on that section. I doubt JJ and Kasdan do either though, to be honest.
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the scenes with spritle and chim chim in Speed Racer fit perfectly into the narrative and are very important tonally and pacing-wise, and speed racer is my favorite movie, but after having seen it a couple dozen times i tend to space out when they show up on screen.
Batpod riding the wall in TDK. So cringey.
Arnie's really awkward roll off the liquid nitrogen truck in Terminator 2.
Arnie's really awkward roll off the liquid nitrogen truck in Terminator 2.
Some might argue all they want about Decker showing he's "not pure hearted" by raping Rachel but we've already seen him be rude, manipulate information from people, kill openly in the street, etc. It's already pretty clear by that point that Deckard isn't a boy scout so having him force sex on Rachel does nothing but make him disgusting and come off as unnecessary for the sake of the greater plot.
Regarding Darwin in First Class.
Saying it shouldn't be a big deal because he only had 5 minutes of screen time makes it even more egregious. It means the creators created a character (again with powers that inherently should make him resistant to the death he suffers), has him form a quick and dirty bond with the rest of the heroes and die having contributed nothing. We've already seen Kevin Bacon kill previously in the movie so even using the excuse that Darwin's death solidifies him as a ruthless and dangerous threat is worthless because we as the audience already know that. There's a reason a death like Coulson's in Avengers has more weight and feels earned and that's because he actually has time to develop not just within the Avengers but over the course of the MCU movies as a whole. It has an impact because we learn to like him while Darwin's death feels cheap in comparison. This is all without even going into the fact that Darwin is also black and has to suffer a fatal death to "propel his friends to action".
The cable car scene in The Grand Budapest Hotel. It's probably one of my favorite movies of all time, and I love how Wes Anderson tends towards practical effects like layering shots with small props, or just using miniatures, but the cable car scene appears to actually be animated, and for some reason really takes me out of the old-timey magic of the movie whenever I see it.
No arguments from me, I definitely agree with you on how unfair Darwin's treatment was. It's the one thing that always pops into my head when I think back to that film and turns me off of it.
yep, it really is a shame how badly they fumbled that seen
whats happening on screen is one thing, but then you hear the love theme and you're like, wtf exactly am i watching here?
Yeah it is, but also because the dead is just a deus ex machina. They didn't add armies and rangers on the boats because it would have added a lot more to the movie (ie. runtime to explain). But the dead was so blah. Like this is a giant evil army, but the heroes don't even defeat it. It was a weak resolution to the conflict when it could have been an amazing show of the courage of men.
And I seem to be the only person who isn't put off by Brand's talk of love in Interstellar. I don't see anything wrong with it.
Bzzt. Can't be mad since they basically make fun of the situation in the funeral right after (even asking "what bushes").
MISS- Pulp Fiction
Never liked this scene, it goes on way too long about nothing and finishes with him flipping out over lost stuff like an angry parent.
Boo.
Definitely agree with this, but also I don't really like the whole Bruce Willis section in this movie anyways. Save for the Christopher Walken scene.
I realize this is like half of the movie, so maybe I just don't like Pulp Fiction all that much.
The fucking Seinfeld scene in the Scott Pilgrim movie. Just garbage.
I might be wrong, but I thought the joke was the actress was his wife in real life...
I might be wrong, but I thought the joke was the actress was his wife in real life...
Apologies if I came off as hostile at all. Didn't mean it towards you but only towards the movie. It's just one of those moments that sticks out like a sore thumb and makes you wonder if on some level multiple people were sleepwalking through a production.
Whaaaaaat. I love the Seinfeld scene. It's so stupid and unnecessary, and so it just works so well.
Something that seems to come across in far too many movies, is the forced romance. When I watch a movie, I can accurately guess when the characters are going to have sex. Why? Why, why, why, why, why? How am I supposed to relate?
Some examples
The last 20 minutes of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, it's the very definition of tacked on feelgood Hollywood ending that has fuck to do with the rest of the movie. Horrible
Trading Places. Jamie Lee Curtis' superb boobs. Kinda ruins the Christmas movie feel
Die Hard. Karl resurrecting so Family Matters guy can have his badass moment. Why
Hunt for the Red October. The captain singing Pavarotti or whatevs. No, it's not funny
The last 20 minutes of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo, it's the very definition of tacked on feelgood Hollywood ending that has fuck to do with the rest of the movie. Horrible
Trading Places. Jamie Lee Curtis' superb boobs. Kinda ruins the Christmas movie feel
Die Hard. Karl resurrecting so Family Matters guy can have his badass moment. Why
Hunt for the Red October. The captain singing Pavarotti or whatevs. No, it's not funny
It was my fave out of the Nolan Trilogy,
I got issues
The last 20 minutes look like something out of Charlie's Angels movies
Wait, what? Kurt Cobain? I've never heard of this before.
