What makes women's breasts more sexual than men's? What makes them sexual at all?
School tells braless teen to cover up her nipples with band-aids
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Any distraction due to dress can be viewed as a violation. It's an arbitrary standard (and for a reason).
Every single school's dress code has a "distraction" clause. Not that it was applied well in this scenario.
You really dont know or are you pretending to be super open minded mannn?
Definitely was a thing in the 90s. I remember high school classmates were sent to the principal’s office for wearing revealing halter tops. Keep in mind that TV often is not a representation of everyday life. Also, they were trying to push the envelope and sex sells.
Fucking awful, unfair bullshit is what this is. Dress codes suck, but they often suck far more for women and this is just another case of that.
But the dress code doesn't specify the need to wear bras. It's in the OP.
Yes, absolutely.
The longstanding rationale for this kind of action has always been that nips/skin/women are distracting to male students.
Female students are certainly capable of bullying, but no one is trying to protect female bullies from being distracted by another female student’s tits.
Yes...yes she can. "No." It's simple.
Oh..no? The horror?
This is divisive and perhaps a good argument for uniforms.
If the dress code is clear and the choice to go bra-less is causing a distraction I can see the school officials having a good reason to step in.
Just imagine yourself in the school's position.
Do nothing and possibly get shit on by parents who demand action against exposing their children to nipples
Do something and be accused of blaming the girl
It's a no win.
If the dress code is clear and the choice to go bra-less is causing a distraction I can see the school officials having a good reason to step in.
Just imagine yourself in the school's position.
Do nothing and possibly get shit on by parents who demand action against exposing their children to nipples
Do something and be accused of blaming the girl
It's a no win.
You uh.. might think it is that simple. It's not, really. Determined teachers are the worst.
I want you to kno that your post didn't go unappreciatedBoys in her class are like
Objectively? Literally nothing.
But it's still overwhelmingly a man's world, and so, they are far and away seen first as sexual organs.
Stupid, I know.
Please. This sort of "enlightened" argument ignores that you can open your Sears catalog and find one covered and one not. We can have an argument that says it should be different, and it should, but how are you supposed to blame a school for changing all of society's general standards that no one gives a fuck about seeing men's breasts while widely sexualizing womens? Get with reality.
The point is... That decision would have had consequences for her that she wasn't willing to take. (I, too, would have just gone home, but she doesn't have my frame of mind. She doesn't have your frame of mind.)
I..Ok, I'll give you that.
It does seem like something that depends on how determined the final step is.
I saw something like this happen when I was in high school and the final step was having the campus security (read: police) come in to force the issue.
The cop flatly said "This is a waste of my time" and left.
So here’s how this should go:
“We have a dress code. You are in violation of that dress code. Please call a family member to bring you and undershirt or bra, or you will be asked to return home for the day.”
Seriously, this is why you have protocol to begin with.
Edit: Since their code doesn’t specify, then they need to amend it to prevent this again.
“We have a dress code. You are in violation of that dress code. Please call a family member to bring you and undershirt or bra, or you will be asked to return home for the day.”
Seriously, this is why you have protocol to begin with.
Edit: Since their code doesn’t specify, then they need to amend it to prevent this again.
The ability to see female nipples will depend almost entirely on whether or not they wear a bra in conjunction with temperatures. Many women will tell you that bras can be uncomfortable as hell so they'll forgo them. So unless they make bras a mandatory part of the dress code, they'll continue to have "incidents" like this.
It'd be just as easy to tell boys (and adult men) to stop getting excited over something so mundane but whatever
It'd be just as easy to tell boys (and adult men) to stop getting excited over something so mundane but whatever
I see that. I’m shocked, because at sure as hell was when I was in school.
There were clear outlines for students about was and wasn’t acceptable, and having worked in schools later, I can confirm that proper undergarments are required in all the ones I’ve been at, whether it’s a sports bra or otherwise.
Your mileage may vary I guess.
We live in a society, and in our society, women's nipples are definitely sexualized. I'm really having a hard time seeing why that's a bad thing, or a good thing, for that matter. It's arbitrary, but so are all the other social rules. That's what makes them social, and not moral or legal, rules.
Why is that an issue? Why not just tell the people distracted by them to focus on school and to stop staring at their classmate? Why is the impetus on the girl to alter her behavior because of the behavior of others? If the problem is the behavior of others, it's on those others to alter their behavior.
Society. Hence why men can be shown topless on public television, but women can't.
It's stupid, but that's standards and practices for you. God forbid some kid sees some titty and becomes a sexual deviant.
wut
Is your position that arbitrary rules can be neither good nor bad?
Also, there are *numerous* examples of social rules being directly informed by the morality of whoever the "rulermakers" are. Just because it is a social rule/law, doesn't mean it doesn't have basis in someone's/a belief system's morality (for better or worse).
She's covered up. That's appropriate. I don't get why we have to police body parts literally under clothing. Is a dude dressing inappropriately if he's wearing pants that show a bulge? The wrestling team gonna have to get a different uniform?
Like, I kind of understand not allowing full on fucking nipples, but come on. We shouldn't be policing women to have to wear bras under their fucking sweatshirts.
Primarily, nipples directly physiologically/nervous connected to the clitoris. Most / many women can be sexually stimulated via their nipples. This is much rarer in men.
Yeah, some of my thinner bras still show my nipples through them. What are they gonna do, force all girls to wear sports bras?
It probably wasn't particularly distracting to the students, but instead to the puritanical (or aroused) bullshitters in charge.
Or they could just punish the guys who are being creeps instead of blaming a girl for not wearing a bra
Does a woman have a right to feel differently about being touched on the breast as opposed to being touched on the arm?
Of course.
Let's stop with the "breasts are just another body part" rubbish.
Does she have a right to not be stared at or harassed? Obviously. But the school also has a right to mandate that she dress appropriately.
Of course.
Let's stop with the "breasts are just another body part" rubbish.
Does she have a right to not be stared at or harassed? Obviously. But the school also has a right to mandate that she dress appropriately.
For several of the guys in her class, it was probably the closest they've come to seeing tits IRL. I can't see nipples being considered mundane for teenage men unless there's a major societal shift.
As for the topic at hand, they definitely handled it poorly. The guys (and girls, if there were any) who heckled her should have been disciplined.
So just because the rest of society thinks it's okay, we shouldn't make any efforts to change it?
No You don't. I Have two sisters who are double D's and they would kill you if you said no bra's. That shit hurts there back if they are without a Bra for too long.
They had extra large clothing for situations like this when I was in school. A woman showed up wearing a shirt against the dress code because it showed her shoulders or something, and instead of suspending her, they just gave her a large sweatshirt to wear for the day.
Edit: Now that I think of it, I also remember a girl wearing a very tight, almost translucent shirt and not having any problems, and a guy wearing way too tight of shorts that outlined everything. Dress code stuff can be strange, but I'm glad I never had to deal with uniforms.
Edit: Now that I think of it, I also remember a girl wearing a very tight, almost translucent shirt and not having any problems, and a guy wearing way too tight of shorts that outlined everything. Dress code stuff can be strange, but I'm glad I never had to deal with uniforms.
Punish the teenagers who's hormones are going bananas? It's natural. Enforce a uniform policy and you'll hear about this a lot less.
To make it clear, trying to have the girl wear band aids is incredibly wrong. When I was in school and something like this happened the staff would contact the parents.