School tells braless teen to cover up her nipples with band-aids

Ketkat

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Oct 25, 2017
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Punish the teenagers who's hormones are going bananas? It's natural. Enforce a uniform policy and you'll hear about this a lot less.
Its not natural to harass and bully a girl because she's not wearing a bra. That's absolutely the kind of thing that deserves to be called out and punished instead of essentially saying she was asking for that to happen by not wearing a bra
 

Fauxpaw

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The ability to see female nipples will depend almost entirely on whether or not they wear a bra in conjunction with temperatures. Many women will tell you that bras can be uncomfortable as hell so they'll forgo them. So unless they make bras a mandatory part of the dress code, they'll continue to have "incidents" like this.

It'd be just as easy to tell boys (and adult men) to stop getting excited over something so mundane but whatever
Also, not all bras will stop nips from being seen. MOST of my bras have this issue. Should we dictate that these women can only wear padded bras (which are often "bust-enhancing", so gotta be careful there too!!)? Should we have them shop from pre-approved bras to make sure nipples never, ever show through? What other ways are we gonna make women and young girls jump through hoops to make sure men don't sexualize us?

Or maybe we should de-stigmatize women and young girl's fucking nipples. And yeah, I see dude nipples all the damn time. I can manage to contain myself (since people seem to forget that straight women and gay men are turned on by the torsos of men).
 

Zoc

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Is your position that arbitrary rules can be neither good nor bad?

Also, there are *numerous* examples of social rules being directly informed by the morality of whoever the "rulermakers" are. Just because it is a social rule/law, doesn't mean it doesn't have basis in someone's/a belief system's morality (for better or worse).
No, my position is that many social rules are arbitrary, but that doesn't somehow invalidate them. It's completely arbitrary that black is the colour to wear for funerals, for example, but you're not a "rebel" if you wear a different colour, just an asshole/weirdo. Similar thing here. Not wearing a bra to school isn't being "progressive."
 

Kirblar

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She's covered up. That's appropriate. I don't get why we have to police body parts literally under clothing. Is a dude dressing inappropriately if he's wearing pants that show a bulge? The wrestling team gonna have to get a different uniform?

Like, I kind of understand not allowing full on fucking nipples, but come on. We shouldn't be policing women to have to wear bras under their fucking sweatshirts.
When kids came to the school in singlets for Halloween they got asked to put on shorts. Manbulge is also not a thing a schools gonna be down with in a classroom.
 

Cybersai

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From the sounds of the article this 17 year old had some pretty noticeable breasts in an almost see-through shirt? I mean not wearing a bra at 17 in school is odd, this isn't her home or with her friends.
 

Zoe

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I'm pretty much in the same boat as you.

You know, I've been watching Friends recently and, particularly in the early seasons, you can see the girls nipples all the time. There's even an episode where you can definitely pretty much see Lisa Kudrows boobs.

Was the female nipple stigma not there in the 90s? Overall is it a recent thing?
There were whole episodes from Seinfeld and Married with Children dedicated to this stuff. For MwC, it was specifically about Friends.
 

TaterTots

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Its not natural to harass and bully a girl because she's not wearing a bra. That's absolutely the kind of thing that deserves to be called out and punished instead of essentially saying she was asking for that to happen by not wearing a bra
They were actually bullying and making fun of her? I must have missed that part. I thought it was just teenage boys glaring and snickering among each other.
 

Ketkat

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Have you any of you actually clicked on the article? And seen what she looks like and the exact shirt she was wearing? There is nothing inappropriate about that in the slightest
 

ashep

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The way the school handled this seems to be pretty insensitive. I regret my first post being solely about dressing appropriately.

But she should have.
 

0VERBYTE

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I feel like we need a video to investigate this matter further...
 

resident_UA

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Have you any of you actually clicked on the article? And seen what she looks like and the exact shirt she was wearing? There is nothing inappropriate about that in the slightest
Ummm... If you go by that picture, how did the school know she was not wearing bra?

Let me help you. What is inappropriate about this?
Am I the only one who thinks that closely examining 17 year olds is kind of inappropriate? I would agree that this also makes school's actions weird... But you are not really helping the issue...
 

lmcfigs

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Its not natural to harass and bully a girl because she's not wearing a bra. That's absolutely the kind of thing that deserves to be called out and punished instead of essentially saying she was asking for that to happen by not wearing a bra
If she's not following the dress code - which includes things like distractions, she would be called out. The bandaid thing is weird, but being brought in for not following some rule is pretty normal behavior - it's not bullying or harassment. That's ridiculous. Like in my high school, you had to be clean shaven or else they'd bring you in and make you shave or possibly send you home if you refuse.
 

Ketkat

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Ummm... If you go by that picture, how did the school know she was not wearing bra?



Am I the only one who thinks that closely examining 17 year olds is kind of inappropriate? I would agree that this also makes school's actions weird... But you are not really helping the issue...
Its the picture from the article you creep. I'm not closely examining her.

If she's not following the dress code - which includes things like distractions, she would be called out. The bandaid thing is weird, but being brought in for not following some rule is pretty normal behavior - it's not bullying or harassment. That's ridiculous. Like in my high school, you had to be clean shaven or else they'd bring you in and make you shave or possibly send you home if you refuse.
Needing to be clean shaven is pretty weird, that definitely wasn't a thing at my High School. But, I really don't see what's wrong with her clothes
 

Opto

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"Girls should know better that men can't control themselves so cover up"
 

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What are the consequences to not wearing a bra in the real world?
Probably not going to go over well on job interview at places that require business casual or professional dress. Or on the job daily for that stuff.

At some point, if you want to be successful you have to conform unless you’re lucky enough to go work for yourself or for some smaller company that fits whatever ways you deviate from the standards that dominate the corporate/professional world.
 

Fauxpaw

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Not all bras 100% stop nips from showing through. Only padded bras do this. And not all padded bras will 100% cover this. Y'all have no idea how women's clothing even works.
 

Ketkat

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With a bra that doesn't accentuate her nipples? Nothing.
You guys are pretty ridiculous if you think women should be forced to wear bra's at all times despite being dressed completely appropriately. And 100% agree with Faux, you guys really don't understand how this works in the slightest.
 

F34R

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On the one hand I agree there’s a bullshit double standard regarding nipple exposure between the sexes.

OTOH, dress codes are a thing and kids need to understand that, in the real world, that shit has consequences.


Overall I think the US should just implement uniforms like.in every civilised country in the world thank you.
Overall the US... there are so many different school districts throughout each state. We're talking 30,000+ in high schools alone.
 

Davilmar

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I am surprised that the dress code didn't specify something about this, even though I went to school in Florida. This should have been handled with far more respect for the girl in this situation.
 

ashep

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You guys are pretty ridiculous if you think women should be forced to wear bra's at all times despite being dressed completely appropriately. And 100% agree with Faux, you guys really don't understand how this works in the slightest.
I'm not saying she should be forced to wear a bra at all times. I'm saying she should dress appropriately meaning she should wear whatever she needs to in order to ensure her nipples aren't accentuated whilst at school.

With some tops that will mean a bra, with others, it won't. And you want to tell me that me that I'm the one who doesn't know how this shit works?
 

baden

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They should have scolded the kids that were being distracted and told the girl to cover herself the next day.

What makes women's breasts more sexual than men's? What makes them sexual at all?
Female nipples are definitely sexual, not so sure about men but i think they also are just way less than women's.

But IIRC male nipples have for a long time been considered useless, maybe that could help explain why we don't want those covered.
 

TSM

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As an adult this whole story sounds ridiculous. Seeing someone's nipples through a shirt is no big deal. High school on the other hand can be merciless. I'm not sure why there's this assumption that it was only the male students taunting her though. The story doesn't even imply such a thing. When I was in high school the girls were generally more ruthless to each other than the guys ever were to them. I think she will win the fight with the school board, but I doubt the school can really do anything about the other student's interactions with her outside the class room space.
 

Richietto

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Gaurentee nothing was ever said or ever will be said about the male athletes who’s nipples show through their sportswear.

And they shouldn’t amend their rules to enforce women to wear bras. That would never bullshit.
 

Ketkat

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I'm not saying she should be forced to wear a bra at all times. I'm saying she should dress appropriately meaning she should wear whatever she needs to in order to ensure her nipples aren't accentuated whilst at school.

With some tops that will mean a bra, with others, it won't. And you want to tell me that me that I'm the one who doesn't know how this shit works?
Yeah? I do know how bra's work Ashep.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Completely inappropriate for school officials to comment or even talk to her about this. Humans have nipples. Singling her out for this is making her learning environment hostile, which is illegal.
 
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Sure, make efforts to change it. But don't complain when the local high school isn't the tip of the spear on your "Free the Nipple" campaign.
I'm not asking the school to do as you described, I just find it stupid that the girl got in trouble for not even violating the school's dress code, whereas the other students who were picking on her didn't. Besides, even if having to wear a bra were in the dress code, that doesn't guarantee that the girl's nipples wouldn't be still showing. What would the school do then?
 

Zoe

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Completely inappropriate for school officials to comment or even talk to her about this. Humans have nipples. Singling her out for this is making her learning environment hostile, which is illegal.
The school district did nothing illegal. She was already singled out by her peers before the administration did anything.

I just find it stupid that the girl got in trouble for not even violating the school's dress code
But she did.
 

BlackGoku03

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Sounds like something that would happen in middle school, not high school.

Idk. I can see how it'd be distracting. Especially with teenage boys. The ones pestering her need to be punished but you can't punish a teenage boy for being distracted by that.

They should have just sent her home if it was that bad. Why embarrass the her?

And it must have been fucking freezing at that school because the picture doesn't raise any alarms.
 

Bumrush

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Do you really think women are getting fired for not wearing bras?
Not fired, but a woman was sent home at my first job for wearing a tank top and no bra. We occasionally had clients at the office and the company said she didn't adhere to the dress code they'd like to portray to customers.

I'm sure this happens reasonably often
 
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