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Scientists: We kept pig brains alive 10 hours after death.
- Thread starter Shard Shinjuku
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Pretty unsettling in its potential long-term implications for how this knowledge might be used. The only thing scarier than dying is living forever.
Eh, thats kind of bullshit. It's like the assumption that any alien that would have the ability to cross the cosmos would only do so to conquer others. We have no concept for living "forever" and there is tons and tons of ways to make it worthwhile/beneficial to yourself and the human race as a whole. Exploration of the cosmos, rejuvenating the planet, reaching the limits(if there are any) of science. Hell, if it ever gets boring, put your brain on ice a few trillion years and try another cosmic age if it does it for you.
like nothing. the brains were not conscious
for you maybe.
Pretty amazing, imagine the possibilities for someone who suffered a stroke, or a baby whose brain was cut off from oxygen during birth.
Don't be dense peeps.
Don't be dense peeps.
The thought of a brain breathing but thinking nothing as its essentially an empty vessel creeps me out.
You can feel free to die then. I'm interested in prolonging my existence until I decide it's time to go.
So it was just cell parts that had enough nutrients to keep moving a while longer. An involuntary metabolic process that happens automatically, regardless of larger functions.
Don't know what you mean by "extending" but...
Imagin living for 10 000 years. Now realize this is incredibly short against the prospect of eternal life.
There is no existence without suffering. This means you would never get rest from all the shit and pain and dissapointment. It means you would have to endure the boring and mundane things for ETERNITY. What I mean is that it could really become a living hell.
Don't get me wrong, I love life, and it is indeed too short, but it is one of the reasons we care for it. The prospect of living for very long or forever is scarier than death. One day or another you would lose the people you love, wether by violent death or because they can't deal with you anymore. Living for a very long time would not protect you against the hurdles and pains of existence, and there is no place you could go to rest and leave it all behind.
It's kind of useless to try to think about what it feels like to be unconscious and freak out.
We do it every night during deep sleep. And when we are dead, wedo not think, so it won't matter to us at all, just like before we were born.
But they will keep on trying to imagin what it feels like, losing sleep, feeling incredible anxiety and wasting that little precious conscious time they have while alive.
We do it every night during deep sleep. And when we are dead, wedo not think, so it won't matter to us at all, just like before we were born.
But they will keep on trying to imagin what it feels like, losing sleep, feeling incredible anxiety and wasting that little precious conscious time they have while alive.
This is less of a "let's revive people" and more of a "This could lead to treatment for brain diseases and damage".
That Mark Twain quote about having been "dead" for so long before being born is nice and all, but there's one big difference about death which is... you know it's coming and that it's inevitable lol. Not the same.
OK, you made me laugh loudly on the bus. Now people are giving me funny looks.
If you think about it, death is kinda the ultimate brain damage.
Wonder why they even waited 4 hours. If this was going to be done to save a human brain in the future you'd have the human in their death bed just waiting for immediate brain harvest to retain as much of the person as possible.
This could be important progress in mitigating brain damage when the body cannot supply oxygen. People freaking out aren't thinking of the actual practical uses they're jumping to putting brains in robots (lol).
It reminds me of people overreacting to CRISPR-Cas9 when it could be used for more dynamic treatment rather than genetically engineering a baby.
It reminds me of people overreacting to CRISPR-Cas9 when it could be used for more dynamic treatment rather than genetically engineering a baby.
Yep. At that point we could just chemically cure ourselves of boredom and be forever satisfied with eternal life.
Well, it was kind of obviously a scam since the entire idea was to get paid now for technology that may or may not ever exist. I said that because if the best scenario right now for brain revival is a couple of pig brain cells being reanimated for a few hours in lab conditions, it doesn't really bode well for the actual human brains that have been sitting in freezers for years.
I mean, every medical procedure that's common now like heart transplants was most likely considered a scam at some point by someone until some low key genius pulled it off.
I see this as progress in the direction of reviving a frozen brain one day in the far future. It's more a question if the cryogenic preserve brains were preserved in a manner that allowed it to hold on to the vital information. What's that saying? Rome wasn't built in one night.
I'm bias in my belief though because I do have some level of faith in cryogenic preservation even though the medical technology isn't there yet.
Don't mind me too much. I enjoy conversations like these.
This + other assholes would be able to live forever as well, and you can't just wait for them to die off. Like, think of a rich asshole political figure you can't stand, and then think he's gonna get the immortality treatment before you do cuz he has money.
Not having thoughts can be pretty peaceful.
I dunno if they got scammed though. They knew it was a long shot, but it was the only shot available. If I was old and rich I'd probably do it too. heh
I mean, there are options available if you're really tired of living after 10,000 years.
Gotta love science threads. Here we have news of the start of potentially groundbreaking treatment for brain damage victims and we get zombie apocalypse and other posts.
This has been done before. I don't understand why we're reading that this is a "first"?
There's even been a ResetERA thread last year.
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2018/05/17/pig-brain-reanimated-ethics/
They've even managed 36 hours instead of 10.
There's even been a ResetERA thread last year.
http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2018/05/17/pig-brain-reanimated-ethics/
They've even managed 36 hours instead of 10.
Read the Lovecraft serial that was pretty much this a couple weeks ago so that's an odd convergence.
I feel like there needs to be another crackdown on research ethics, we're hitting way too many frontiers and I'm not convinced we're taking our due diligence.
I feel like there needs to be another crackdown on research ethics, we're hitting way too many frontiers and I'm not convinced we're taking our due diligence.
I wonder if they could keep the neurons if the transplant had taken place quicker. Imagine a world where humans close to death have their brains moved into machines.
