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Scores don't matter, or why I think Crackdown 3 is in my running for GOTY
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You must tell me this second one, solely because I know Boneface did this art.
I think it's a fun game (sometimes really fun), but it's also a bad game. I don't think the two are mutually exclusive, as odd that might sound.
It definitely suffers from having to carry the mantle of a marquee first party AAA game, and one that was supposed to push revolutionary cloud tech in games. I think it would've been better suited to a Gamepass-only release, and I think it's exemplary of a kind of more mid-tier game (both in quality and production value) that I hope we see round out Gamepass offerings.
Still, it's clearly a completely mismanaged game from conception to release. And, while traversal, combat, and sheer chaos have good moments, so much else of the game is just bad if not terrible. Outside of orb hunting, the world serves virtually no purpose and feels totally dead. All the different mission types are extremely samey quickly causing a feeling of burnout. Part of me enjoys combat for the way it rewards engaging enemies and its sheer havoc, but it can devolve into a stupidly easy game of shifting lock-on and holding RT. The story and characters are pointless and the presentation so bad it's good.
It definitely suffers from having to carry the mantle of a marquee first party AAA game, and one that was supposed to push revolutionary cloud tech in games. I think it would've been better suited to a Gamepass-only release, and I think it's exemplary of a kind of more mid-tier game (both in quality and production value) that I hope we see round out Gamepass offerings.
Still, it's clearly a completely mismanaged game from conception to release. And, while traversal, combat, and sheer chaos have good moments, so much else of the game is just bad if not terrible. Outside of orb hunting, the world serves virtually no purpose and feels totally dead. All the different mission types are extremely samey quickly causing a feeling of burnout. Part of me enjoys combat for the way it rewards engaging enemies and its sheer havoc, but it can devolve into a stupidly easy game of shifting lock-on and holding RT. The story and characters are pointless and the presentation so bad it's good.
Metal Gear Survive was one of my favorite games last year so I absolutely get it. That said, Crackdown 3 was such an incredible disappointment to me.
Definitely one of my favourite games of this year so far along with dmc5. I definitely see why it got the general review scores but that never really bothered me during my three playthroughs. It's even weird saying it, but i'd even consider it to be the best playing open world games of the past years when it comes to overall control and feel of the character and that only improves the stronger your character gets.
I'm glad they were able to finish it even though it's not that revolutionary open world title that Jones' team was promising at the start which could've possibly changed it's initial reception, i'm still happy i was able to get into this series as a complete newcomer to the franchise.
I'm glad they were able to finish it even though it's not that revolutionary open world title that Jones' team was promising at the start which could've possibly changed it's initial reception, i'm still happy i was able to get into this series as a complete newcomer to the franchise.
It's ok to like bad games. I mean, Jersey Devil was one my favorite PS1 games. It was awful, but I loved it to bits.
You're not crazy, it's definitely going to be among my favourite games of not just this year, but the whole generation. I'm sorry that some people who've played it haven't found enjoyment in it, but hey, plenty of other great games this year.
I just hope that the negative (and frankly, utterly baffling to me) reception the game has gotten won't spell the end of the franchise, it's one of my favourite and most consistently enjoyable series. Campaign DLC, please!
I just hope that the negative (and frankly, utterly baffling to me) reception the game has gotten won't spell the end of the franchise, it's one of my favourite and most consistently enjoyable series. Campaign DLC, please!
I think it's super-fun when you're able to see value in experiences most will look past for one reason or another.
I'm quite into hobby-grade game development. Titles put together by teams of 1 or 2 people on the slimmest of budgets. Spaces where ideas are more important than glossy execution.
The standouts for me this year have been Objects in Space, Kenshi, and Project Zomboid. All were actually received well but if you were to go by screenshots, they each look aggressively amateur. But I think they're little darlings, more valuable to me than the vast bulk of popular AAA releases of late.
I'm quite into hobby-grade game development. Titles put together by teams of 1 or 2 people on the slimmest of budgets. Spaces where ideas are more important than glossy execution.
The standouts for me this year have been Objects in Space, Kenshi, and Project Zomboid. All were actually received well but if you were to go by screenshots, they each look aggressively amateur. But I think they're little darlings, more valuable to me than the vast bulk of popular AAA releases of late.
I believed in Sean Murray and I stood by No Mans Sky at launch. Was a cool game with a great vibe and i was really interested in what it was doing and had the potential of becoming. Cynicism was strong back then, but the team delivered the vision and year 3 is looking even better.
Sea of Thieves is in the 60s on Metacritic and it's more than likely my game of the generation. Who cares about scores when you love something. It's why it's pointless to get into Metacritic score posturing. Who cares. Play what you love. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Travis Strikes Again: No More Heroes
and yeah, b0neface is the best.
Hm, I started this game last week and found it to be very bland and grindy. The first few hours (at least) require you to go from planet to planet grinding resources to create ship parts, fuel, resources, etc.. Having so many lengthy barriers to pure and simple exploration is a huge turn off. I'm not sure I'll pick it back up.
OP, did you play Crackdown 1 before? I guess if this is your first Crackdown, then the novelty of the orbs upgrading and changing your character is worth a playthrough. But a lot of reviewers gave it the score they did because it literally did nothing to advance the gameplay past what we had in 2007. Because of that, they found it quite boring/tedious, especially compared to games that have been designed with more of a modern focus in mind. I couldn't bring myself to play Crackdown 3 for more than an hour on Game Pass.
100%. Crackdown is currently my GOTY and had it released in 2018 it would have been #2 after Horizon 4.
There are no bad games. Game quality is an almost wholly subjective metric which is why metascores are a useless metric for quality.
There are bad games. Games that just dont work or crash a lot are objectively bad games.
Like, I agree in theory. I'm all for dumb fun games that feel good to play but don't necessarily push the medium forward, but my experience with Crackdown 3 just felt kinda mediocre. Definitely not terrible, just not great.
Especially considering Crackdown 1 and 2 already exist if you want that game.
Especially considering Crackdown 1 and 2 already exist if you want that game.
It's true my vacation is now cancelled . Thanks a lot Jaw
Stop with the hyperbole. Yes, Jeremy Mc Callister from Arkansas liked the game, but his parents were poor and they couldn't afford to buy Jeremy more games, so he "forced" himself to love Superman 64 in order to not hurt his parents' feelings.
But it's One Of Us who wrote it, not One Of Them. Random poster #45794's thread is automatically Deep Wisdom and Worthy of Consideration, while every single review on magazines and websites is automatically Wrong and Part of the Problem. /s
I'll never not find it hilarious how people saying "reviews are useless" really mean "other people's reviews are useless, just listen to me".
Same here! My 2nd playthrough was this year and still enjoyed my time with it.
Another game I enjoyed that got critically panned was Fallout 76. It was far from their best game, but I still enjoyed my time with it and plan on going back to it later this year. I can't see eye to eye with OP on Crackdown 3 though. Played for about 90 minutes and deleted it as it felt dated. Good thing about video games as in all things life, we're all entitled to like what we like.
Why would you not remember what you have played? If you don't even remember those other games, I guess they didn't leave much of an impact on you.
This has been an incredible gen with dozens of fantastic games.
State of Decay 2.
World War Z.
Sonic Unleashed.
I'm playing State of Decay 2 now, or when I get home.
And I think I'll eventually get CD3. I love the series.
I never cared about scores as far as buying games, or just about anything.
I only talk about scores on forms, in person. Movies, games, etc.
World War Z.
Sonic Unleashed.
I'm playing State of Decay 2 now, or when I get home.
And I think I'll eventually get CD3. I love the series.
I never cared about scores as far as buying games, or just about anything.
I only talk about scores on forms, in person. Movies, games, etc.
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Honestly I hate the state of the gaming journalism right now I don't even pay attention to reviews anymore (which negatively effects the legitimately good and unbiased reviewers out there). There's a lot of fake news out there and forced agendas. Oh yeah and there have been multiple cases where a journalist has given a bad review because they can't even play the game properly e.g. Anthem and RE2. Let's not forget that Cuphead demo either.
But yeah, if you enjoy a game that received bad reviews then good for you my man. Don't let anyone try and change your opinion about it.
But yeah, if you enjoy a game that received bad reviews then good for you my man. Don't let anyone try and change your opinion about it.
Personally, this gen has been rather weak in games that appeal to my personal tastes. Some of my biggest time sinks have just been remasters of older titles. But I'll keep that for another thread since I don't want to derail this one.
I will say that a lot of titles for this gen that I would list aren't universally regarded however.
I had a great weekend with it, although I doubt at the end of the year it's going to be in my top 10. But you do you and don't let anyone shame you for liking a game.
I would question if this is just Phil Spencer but even he rightly knows what a colossal piece of shit this game is.
I spent about 10-15 hours playing the original Crackdown in the run up to 3 releasing and I still think it's a fantastic game.
The bolded is utter nonsense and shows you don't what you're talking about. Here's a small selection off the top of my head of some of the major differences between Crackdown 1 and 3:
- The addition of double/triple jumps and lateral boosts which massively overhauls the movement and traversal.
- Hugely increased enemy variety including:
- The standard fodder
- Body shield wielding units
- Numerous vehicles
- Teleporting soldiers
- Rocket bastards which regularly spawn stationary bubble shields
- Various melee type units
- Various drone style units
- Various mechs
etc.
- Bosses are actually unique encounters rather than simply units with extra health- Significantly more objective variety
- Platforming puzzles and challenges
- The world design in general saw a massive improvement with much more care spent on designing interesting play spaces and platforming.
etc.
Technical problems are about as close as you can get to objective issues with games. However, even then their effect on the quality of a title is subjective.
A game which crashes every 30 minutes might still be my favourite of all time if it plays well enough,
Agreed with OP. Between Apex Legends and Crackdown 3 I probably have my 1&2 games of the year so far
Don't forget you also have horrible taste regarding the Alien movie franchise
Really seems to come down to whether or not you wanted more crackdown or something a bit upgraded from what I've noticed in these discussions.
I had some fun with it but its understandable why it scored the way it did. No reason to get too attached to what scores are given. I've been burned by highly scored games that I despised. I'll never get over Resistance 2, that one got 9's all over the place and still hurts.
It depends on if you agree with the reviews content. For example a big thing about Crackdown 3 was reviewers said it was repetitive, yet I beat the game and didn't really find that to be the case for me. I've played Ubi games that are 10x more repetitive than CD3.
If you agree with the reasoning in the review, and agree that they're bad games then yes.
However, there are plenty of games where I'll not only disagree that it's a bad (or good) game, but disagree with the reasoning also.
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I have! Enjoyed the first one quite a lot. Then played the sequel when it came out and it wasn't nearly as good, but still a decent ride. I would put CD3 around the level of the first game. Yeah the gameplay has been mostly intact but there are some good QoL changes that I truly appreciate.
Dammit I tried to make it less obvious
I also love that film but it's also because I literally grew up where most of those scenes were shot 😀
Agents of Mayhem has some seriously good parts to it, unlike Crackdown 3.
Even Crackdown 2 was better, and that's a mediocre sequel made on a shoestring budget in a fraction of the time it took to cobble Crackdown 3 together.
I enjoyed the game for about 6 hours or so but I don't think I will spend the time to finish. Its fun but it wore off and I don't think its worth the time to collect everything. MP mode was a huge letdown. I really wanted 4 player coop instead...