DRM renders a game unplayable years later?
What a shocking development nobody could surely have seen coming
What a shocking development nobody could surely have seen coming
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SecuROM makes Tron: Evolution unplayable, server authenticating play shuts down
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I bet SecuROM had defenders like Denuvo too. Total bootlickers.
Yeah. SecuROM hasnt worked on Windows 10 for some years now as well, so a cracked file would be needed regardless (if you have Windows 10, naturally).
i've lost count how many times i've been accused of being a pirate simply because i have a problem with invasive and shitty drm
They're idiots. There's a wait piracy thing here were people think emulation is piracy but taking advantage of a store glitch and whatever else for free games isnt
It's probably necessary for preservation even now, frankly. It's funny, though, if you buy the Amiga Forever stuff from Cloanto it comes with a bunch of games like probably about half of which are, specifically, cracked versions with scene intros
What do you mean linking your game to an occasional online authentication with shitty DRM means that games eventually get lost when those servers eventually go down?
Era told me that wouldn't happen and that me being against invasive DRM was just me being a pirate wanting free games
This shit is the long term future for games with Denuvo as well, and people still believe Denuvo is a good thing.
Ahaha
Era told me that wouldn't happen and that me being against invasive DRM was just me being a pirate wanting free games
This shit is the long term future for games with Denuvo as well, and people still believe Denuvo is a good thing.
Ahaha
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I just showed the original Tron movie on Disney+ to my son and after watching the motorcycles scene I wondered, did we ever get a Tron video game close to that? was this game it?
Yes. TRON 2.0 was the proper sequel to the OG movie. And it rocks.
No. Not even close.
It'd be great if Steam, or Epic looking to score some points, established a rule that any future game including extra DRM had to patch it out within a certain time frame, say, two years? Maybe they even have to have a branch of it ready to go on the server to publish? Because it's just a time bomb otherwise.
A quick Google search reveals the game was cracked before it was even released. Once again DRM only hurts people who bought the game.
Disney likes this. They don't want you using old media you already bought, they want you dependent on their services. Disney+, Disney deciding which of their back-catalog films (including Fox, Marvel, and Pixar) are released to theaters doing their own screenings, Disney (presumably) not relicensing Ducktales Remastered to WayForward, the Disney Vault, and copyright itself to tie it all together. Now you can give them $20 in 5 years for the TRON Collection and be grateful for a legal way to re-play this game.
Great. I've got it on disc, though I can't remember if it uses the same copy protection or just the disc checking kind.
Don't the DRM defenders say that if a situation like this occurs the publishers will just patch it out? Well, we're waiting. I think we'll wait a long time too. After Safedisc copy protection stopped working in Windows for disc based games, I'm aware of precisely zero games where publishers released official no-cd patches to address it. The only way to keep those games working has been through the "dastardly" pirates and their cracks.
Don't the DRM defenders say that if a situation like this occurs the publishers will just patch it out? Well, we're waiting. I think we'll wait a long time too. After Safedisc copy protection stopped working in Windows for disc based games, I'm aware of precisely zero games where publishers released official no-cd patches to address it. The only way to keep those games working has been through the "dastardly" pirates and their cracks.
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What about keeping your customers happy so they continue to buy your games lolololol
they have to pay some body to dig up the code and recompile it and it's not worth it. If they care enough, we had cases that they just packaged the crack and released that instead, that's the best you're going to get for games that are not popular.
Dude, did you just tell him to commit a crime?
Also how have i never heard of this Tron game
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That DRM parasite caused(and still causes) such unnecessary issues for legitimate buyers.
That DRM parasite caused(and still causes) such unnecessary issues for legitimate buyers.
Good fucking luck, I'm pretty sure it also relied on online servers that I believe were pulled not long after the game launched. At least, that's what it felt like.
IIRC there is a glitch where the game wipes your savegame progress. If you manage to get it running backup your save file after quitting the game.
What concerns me equally are how many features there are integrated into games these days that require an online connection to function, even in single player modes. Take Mortal Kombat 11 as an example: AFAIK without a connection you lose the ability to access the Krypt, Towers of Time, any rewards, and this therefore means that you have no way to unlock things. One day the servers will be taken down and the game will be left with only a portion of even the single player content.
Like I said earlier, some people seem to believe that publishers will remove DRM or unlock features should severs go down, DRM expire, etc, but there are very few examples of this happening. In most cases they don't care unless they can make more money, and that's not even looking at instances where the original publisher or developer no longer exists.
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Valve has made enough public statements about Steam EOL that they'd be staring down some hard-to-win lawsuits. And probably worse. Sunsetting Steam, whenever that happens, will have to be done extremely delicately.
I am not saying you are actually saying exactly that, word by word, but...
I am also not saying I agree...
It is a revocation of a license that shouldn't have been revoked. If the EULA has an arbitration provision, it would probably be a slam dunk for any owner. If not, a class action (or small claims) case would be the next logical step.
It's basic contract law. Consideration was paid in exchange for a perpetual license. Said license was revoked w/o reason.
If they don't patch it owners of the game could end up being trouble for Disney.
It's ok. TRON 2.0 was much, much better.
Sounds like SecuROM servers for this game have been derezzed
There is an extra layer of irony in Tron as a franchise being pretty much about the protagonists hacking corporate servers. :)
Realistically that's not going to happen though. Nobody is going to go through the courts over a 9-year-old game they picked up for $10 during a Steam sale.
If there is an arbitration clause, you just do that.
If it doesn't, well class action lawyers thrive on that (low value, high volume).
Yep, that sucks balls too. Probably worse as it's more likely to happen with a lot of games.
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Gabe Newell doesn't own valve, valve is not a publicly trade company. The employees, when they get hired at valve, are given stock in the company. The company is owned by all the employees at Valve.
Ok thanks, quite reassuring. Though... Wikipedia (linked to an article by Forbes staff) does say Gabe Newell owns 50% of Valve. Can he not sell 50% of the company to a secret douche?