Sega Ages Sonic 2 (Switch) resurfaces, will include Knuckles in Sonic 2

Oct 26, 2017
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About fucking time! Sadly so far this is the only major "new" addition, as it looked like M2 were looking into including cut content:


Guess it didn't pan out?
 
Nov 1, 2017
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To be honest, that would be kind of underwhelming. Neat for those who haven't tried Knuckles in Sonic 2 I suppose.
 

Kapryov

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Oh cool, I guess I'll take that. We'll never get Sonic 3&K anyway, might as well include Knuckles in something.

Fingers are still crossed they manage to squeeze in some cut material though.
Like the original Hidden Palace Zone that ends at the emerald, from the prototypes and accessible by cheat code in the Taxman version. That wouldn't be too hard.
 

Auberji

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's neat that it's happening. Shame that it's not on the level of the mobile port with HPZ but life goes on. I'll probably pick this up since it has been a long time since I've played Sonic 2 and I just want an excuse.
 

ArcaneSylph

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Oct 27, 2017
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Shame that including cut content seems to have not worked out. I guess one could assume they're being quiet on that front, but after a long time of no news, that's pretty unlikely. Still, I'd rather have Sonic 2 on Switch than not at all, and playable Knuckles is nice, especially if Sonic 3 and Knuckles is going to be buried by SEGA in the foreseeable future.
 

rawhide

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We don't know what else will or won't be included, the story is based off an extremely terse Famitsu recap.
 

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I mean, an M2 port will always be appreciated, but why does Sega continue to deny us the Christian Whitehead ports of Sonic 1 & 2 on console/handheld?
 
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sir_crocodile

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I own s2 & s&k on md, jam on Saturn and s2 on android so there doesn't seem to be anything here worthwhile for me atm.
 

Jimnymebob

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I'd be there day 1 for this, because Sonic 2 is like my second favourite game of all time, and M2 are fantastic, but the joycons being awful for Sonic 1 is a deal-breaker for me, considering I'll only be getting it for handheld play.

If they've fixed it on this one, I'll get it, but otherwise I'll have to leave it, unfortunately.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I adore Sonic 2, but I will never understand why Sega cannot port the mobile versions to console. This isn’t like the 3DS version, where you can say, “Oh, but it’s 3d.”

I’ll buy the same game over and over again, Sega, but only if you give me a reason to.
 

fiendcode

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Oct 26, 2017
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I bet we also get HPZ and drop dash. I kinda hope they add flying Tails too.

That's presumably the reason, yes. Sega stopped re-releasing the game around the time MJ died (roughly). Seems like they prefer to pretend it doesn't exist now.
They do have an alternate soundtrack though and even readymade MD mixed versions found on protos. I'm hopeful a potential Wave 2 of Sega Ages will also include a S3K with that if need be.
 

Solid SOAP

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Nov 27, 2017
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I just don't understand why they don't port the Taxman remakes, they're essentially perfect and actually BETTER than the original releases... I'd honestly pay $20~ for Taxman's Sonic 1, 2, 3&K, and CD on a Switch cart.
 
Jun 2, 2019
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Kinda sad to see so many people asking for Taxman's versions incessantly. M2 versions are great on their own right, aiming for accuracy with a few QoL extras.

Personally, I like them more than Taxman's and can't wait to double dip on the game (I have it on 3ds too)
 

Danthrax

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The report mentions “more actions” so I don’t think Tails flying on command and the drop dash are out of the question.
 
Oct 30, 2017
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Still absolutely wild to be how Sega has so many different “old game services” available at the same time with some significantly different levels of quality. You have Sega Ages, the Genesis Classics Collection, Sega Forever, and the Genesis Mini all using different version of the same games. It seems needlessly wasteful to do.
 

G_Shumi

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Kinda sad to see so many people asking for Taxman's versions incessantly. M2 versions are great on their own right, aiming for accuracy with a few QoL extras.

Personally, I like them more than Taxman's and can't wait to double dip on the game (I have it on 3ds too)
I don't think anyone is discounting M2. They do amazing work with porting and remastering old games. It just seems like all the work they've done with Sonic 1 & 2 are unnecessary when we already have definitive versions of these games on iOS/Android.

It's like asking to redo someone's project and is egregiously wasteful with how much time and money are being spent remastering these games more than once.
 
Jun 2, 2019
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I don't think anyone is discounting M2.(...) It just seems like all the work they've done with Sonic 1 & 2 are unnecessary when we already have definitive versions of these games on iOS/Android.
These statements contradict themselves

This is like saying that because the PS2 version of Virtua Racing exists, there's no need for the Sega Ages version of Virtua Racing to exist, or OutRun when the 3DS version exists.

It honestly feels disrespectful to M2's work
 
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Clive

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I remember Knuckles in Sonic 2 being an awful experience due to the final boss. Knuckles jumps slightly lower than Sonic so you always get hit by the spikey hands of the boss. With Sonic you can do it with the right timing but with Knuckles it's much harder. Knuckles didn't add much to Sonic 2 in general. Disappointing.
 

Laxoon

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These statements contradict themselves

This is like saying that because the PS2 version of Virtua Racing exists, there's no need for the Sega Ages version of Virtua Racing to exist, or OutRun when the 3DS version exists.
I'd argue they're not the definitive versions yet because they aren't off mobile. No offense to mobile gaming, I love lots of mobile games, but taxman's Sonic 1 & 2 should get a chance to exist outside of iOS and Android.

To add my personal experience to that, Sega Forever became a thing that has been retrofitted into the mobile release which turned my PAID copies of the game into the 'Free with Ads' Sega Forever version. That would be fine normally because there is a voucher system in place in-app that links to the Google Play store to unlock my paid copy... except it doesn't work for me. So thanks to this I'm forced to play it with ads or make a new google account and re-buy the games again. I dunno if this is just some glitch on my end but I'm shit out of luck with the only existing version of the game accessible to me.

Bums me out every time I see an opportunity to make them more accessible go to waste.
 

mute

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Oct 25, 2017
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I remember Knuckles in Sonic 2 being an awful experience due to the final boss. Knuckles jumps slightly lower than Sonic so you always get hit by the spikey hands of the boss. With Sonic you can do it with the right timing but with Knuckles it's much harder. Knuckles didn't add much to Sonic 2 in general. Disappointing.
Just restrict your jumps to when he lands and lowers his body. Takes longer but much safer, Sonic or Knuckles.
 

MisterSpo

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This is actually neat and I hope upcoming Sega Ages releases include such drastic changes (Still need Phantasy Star 2).
I really want Sega Ages versions of Phantasy Star 2, 3 and 4. I've got the Sega Ages version of the Master System original in my backlog.

It's a shame that these seem to come out so slowly - I get it's not a case of waving the magic wand and suddenly excellent versions of old games are done, but weren't Sega and M2 suggesting they might move onto Saturn and Dreamcast titles at some point? If it's taken this long to get to Sonic 2, then we're a while away from that happening.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It's absolutely ludicrous how many various versions of Sonic 1 and 2 there are. The Whitehead releases are superior, but they continue to get different developers to start from scratch. I don't get it. Port the mobile versions, you goons.
 

Foffy

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It's absolutely ludicrous how many various versions of Sonic 1 and 2 there are. The Whitehead releases are superior, but they continue to get different developers to start from scratch. I don't get it. Port the mobile versions, you goons.
Maybe someone in the community will try to convert them based on Steam roms of Sonic 1 and Sonic 2? I know a "Taxman" take of 3&K exists on PC as Sonic 3 A.I.R. that tries to follow that template.
 
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The report mentions “more actions” so I don’t think Tails flying on command and the drop dash are out of the question.
Yeah, I'd expect these features to be included, considering that they've already added the drop-dash into Sonic 1.

Just a shame that M2 will almost certainly never get to work on S3&K...
 

Noise

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Oct 25, 2017
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Okay but can we get some *new* retro stuff out of SEGA or M2, maybe? Sonic 3 or... dare I say... something from the Saturn or Dreamcast? Or is SEGA just gonna keep sticking the same classic games down retro enthusiasts throat?

Bruh. I already bought the Genesis Mini. I'm even considering getting a 6 button controller. I own Sonic 2 on the PC, 360, iPod Touch, 3DS, and the Wii. Give me Sonic 3, some NiGHTS, or some dang Spinball or Fighters for crying out loud. I'd wager that the grand majority of gamers out there today who have any interest in Sonic 2 own it already on at least one other system.
 

P-Bo

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Jun 17, 2019
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GIVE ME 3 YOU COWARDS.

I don't understand why they don't hire Tee Lopes to remix the problematic tracks. Unless it's a deeper issue than I understand, they can't be so cheap as to avoid any possible solution to 3's rerelease.

God I'm so sick of 2.
 

Clive

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Just restrict your jumps to when he lands and lowers his body. Takes longer but much safer, Sonic or Knuckles.
You are certainly right about that. These impressions are me as a kid, haha. Haven't played Knuckles in Sonic 2 since probably 1994. I never really thought he was a worthwhile addition in the other parts of the game either.
 

G_Shumi

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These statements contradict themselves

This is like saying that because the PS2 version of Virtua Racing exists, there's no need for the Sega Ages version of Virtua Racing to exist, or OutRun when the 3DS version exists.

It honestly feels disrespectful to M2's work
Wouldn't what you just said in turn be disrespectful to Taxman and Stealth's work on the iOS/Android versions of Sonic 1 & 2?

I also feel like comparing PS2 to Switch to 3DS versions of games is way, way different than porting current-gen games since they all run on similar hardware nowadays.
 

Klappdrachen

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If they're so intent on giving more Sonic games the AGES treatment, they should at least release the Master System Sonics as well. I have about 8 versions of Sonic 2 now.
 
Jun 2, 2019
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Wouldn't what you just said in turn be disrespectful to Taxman and Stealth's work on the iOS/Android versions of Sonic 1 & 2?
No? I'm not saying their work is unnecessary because the M2 version exists, I'm saying that I particularly prefer the M2 version and that saying that their version is unnecessary because Taxman's exists is disrespectful to their work
 

Delriach

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Kinda sad to see so many people asking for Taxman's versions incessantly. M2 versions are great on their own right, aiming for accuracy with a few QoL extras.

Personally, I like them more than Taxman's and can't wait to double dip on the game (I have it on 3ds too)
Taxman’s pretty obviously are a great value with a large emphasis on improving the experience and adding fun. Better perf, better screen size, gameplay additions, new features, bonus extras. It’s a more complete package.

That’s a weird thing to say is “kinda sad to see”.

Damn people for wanting a superior experience! Damn them all!
 

Seven Force

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I would like to hear why you prefer M2's versions, which usually only have a few modest enhancements, over the Taxman versions, which are widely beloved?
I've seen people not like that the Taxman versions have widescreen. I see widescreen as a net positive for the games personally but hey, opinions.