They aren't lazy picks. OutRun and Space Harrier should be on everything.
That's not to say Sega shouldn't start re-releasing other games though. I want Panzer Dragoon Orta and OutRun 2 on my Switch.
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They aren't lazy picks. OutRun and Space Harrier should be on everything.
That's not to say Sega shouldn't start re-releasing other games though. I want Panzer Dragoon Orta and OutRun 2 on my Switch.
Phantasy Star with the dungeon map function really makes all the difference. Sometimes I love to get out the pen and paper playing Wizardry, but Etrian Odyssey spoiled me, lol :)
I'm not saying OutRun (or Space Harrier for that matter) is a bad game, I'm saying when you go through the effort to make high-quality ports of back catalogue titles fans want to play, maybe don't choose games that already have ports all over the place.
The original OutRun in particular had ports on the Master System, Mega Drive, Saturn, a remake on the PS2, and is fully playable in most of the recent Yakuza games (even Fist of the North Star) as well as Shenmue 2.
OutRun 2 (and its revisions, 2006-C2C and Online Arcade) on the other hand, is now only available on the Xbox, PS2, and PSP discs it originally released on, and even then the Xbox version is quite expensive.
o be fair the previus Genesis Collection on X360PS3 had bonus master system & Arcade games too.
This series is set to last for a very long time. It's likely Sega will port both games that have seen many releases, as well as games that haven't.
Problem is, licensing on Outrun 2 makes porting it not so straight forward. I'm hoping they manage to come up with a version that loses the Ferrari license so that it can get a release without a licensing nightmare. Likewise for Afterburner Climax. Extra mode wise for OR2 I'd love to have all the console features from both OR2 and SP should it ever happen. As for Space Harrier, just having an excellent port that also lets me continue (which the Shenmue and Yakuza versions do not) would be a huge inclusion. Just so I don't need to break out my Saturn to play it.
Plus, this Outrun port will have the excellent 60FPS mode, which is certainly not included in most of the ports listed above. I can't wait to get it myself.
Kinda funny that with all of Outrun's re-releases, only two (upcoming Switch port notwithstanding) of them have 60fps. Kinda like how Galaxy Force II and Power Drift didn't get arcade perfect ports until PS2 and 3DS, respectively.
Its got American and Japanese settings. As well as the option to play the arcade "Mega Play" version (which is more of a speed run mode that cuts Marble Zone :( and Labyrinth Zone :) ). No Pal settings, can't say that's a let down as I never want to suffer through PAL Sonic games ever again!
Well many of the old arcade ports were on inferior hardware so it was really only when the Saturn cropped up (alongside some awesome Japansese PCs) that arcade perfect ports could even be a thing for anything that isn't a Neo Geo!). But still, yeah it is weird that there are so few "arcade perfect" ports of the games, but it doesn't help that many ports get rushed or botched by bad studios. Part of the reason I'm getting these releases is that M2 rock in that regard, and the extras added really help make some games worth the repeated purchase - I never owned the 3DS versions so 60FPS Outrun on a portable is a must for me, Phantasy Star has some great additions to make an RPG illiterate fool like myself be able to play it!
Ah, that's a shame about no PAL. I know it's awful, but it's the awful that I'm familiar with, and the soundtrack is better.
Playing Sonic 1 at full speed still feels weird for me.
Playing Sonic 1 at full speed still feels weird for me.
Just a reminder that there's many sensible reasons they are once again rereleasing Out Run, Sonic 1&2, and Space Harrier. First, those games sell well so it makes great business sense. Second, M2 has already ported them before and can release them a lot quicker than something they've never worked on. Third, they're all enduring Sega classics that should be on everything. Nintendo keeps releasing the original Super Mario Bros because people want it. Nostalgia is strong.
Also, Out Run 2 would be amazing. They should just get Sumo to port Out Run Online Arcade since I think a Arcade perfect port would be tough at this point.
Also, Out Run 2 would be amazing. They should just get Sumo to port Out Run Online Arcade since I think a Arcade perfect port would be tough at this point.
Oh yeah, the pre-Saturn ports not being 60fps definitely make sense. The Dreamcast and Xbox ports via Shenmue II, Yu Suzuki Game Works and OutRun 2 were more what I was thinking of. The Saturn port was a really rare case of a game being 100% superior to it's arcade release (from a technical perspective) in a time where even getting home ports as good as arcade releases were somewhat rare.
I'd love to see OutRun 2006/SP SDX on Switch too but I feel like M2 and Sega Ages is probably better served focusing on older games from back when Sega was delivering their own custom hardware. Basically the pre-3rd party era.
Outrun 2006 and other similar ports (VF5FS, Afterburner Climax, HOTD 3/4/+, etc) should definitely also happen but they'd probably need to come from the arcade groups directly.
And while I was initially hesitant on the 3D Classics being redone again, if I'm being honest now I actually hope to see more of them. Specifically I'd still really want Fantasy Zone I & IIDX, Power Drift, Galaxy Force II, Puyo Puyo 2, Gunstar Heroes, Shinobi III and Street of Rage 2 at least.
Of the 3D Classics they previously worked on, the ones I'd have no problem seeing again:
Power Drift - Mainly because this actually got a JP exclusive update in Japan that added an extra mode that lets you race as Sega characters like Alex Kidd and the OutRun flagman. Would be a great way to actually make it available everywhere else, and it's not like Power Drift has seen many ports, anyway
Fantasy Zone II DX - As far as I know, the 3DS version is the only release with actual widescreen. Would be nice to have all of the 3DS extras and the ability to play on the big screen.
Turbo OutRun - Because again, Japan only ever got this.
I kinda feel like Galaxy Force II peaked with the 3DS version, to be honest. Stereoscopic 3D really positively affected that game more than any other out of that whole M2 line, imo.
Power Drift - Mainly because this actually got a JP exclusive update in Japan that added an extra mode that lets you race as Sega characters like Alex Kidd and the OutRun flagman. Would be a great way to actually make it available everywhere else, and it's not like Power Drift has seen many ports, anyway
Fantasy Zone II DX - As far as I know, the 3DS version is the only release with actual widescreen. Would be nice to have all of the 3DS extras and the ability to play on the big screen.
Turbo OutRun - Because again, Japan only ever got this.
I kinda feel like Galaxy Force II peaked with the 3DS version, to be honest. Stereoscopic 3D really positively affected that game more than any other out of that whole M2 line, imo.
Well the original arcade version of Outrun was actually 30FPS. The 60FPS was actually added as an extra mode.
Yeah, I know. I clarified that I meant post-Saturn ports of the game.
Galaxy Force II is underrated, and it was indeed amazing on 3DS.
Yeah, I can kind of agree here. GF2 is an amazing ride/experience but as a game itself maybe M2 would be better served doing something like an arcade remake Space Harrier II DX or else just jumping ahead to Panzer Dragoon.
What we actually need from this series is an arcade-perfect port of Outrunners. There's one that's never been ported well to any system.
If you have a Switch, you need these games.
Sonic 1 is as good as it's ever been. Thunder Force is a shmup tour de force.
M2 is a quality dev who has more than earned their rep.
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Bought both Sonic 1 and Lightening Force. I'm shocked these are already on sale, even on Black Friday.
Man these are fucking outstanding packages. The sleek menu interface, the wealth of options (especially the display options). Fantastic.
My only issues so far are:
- When turning the wallpaper off, it's not actually gone, it's instead replaced by this black/grey gradient or something, have look:
- Sonic 1 doesn't have a BGM menu despite LF having it. I know about the cheat code, but you'd think they'd have put one in regardless.
Still wonderful. Here have a look at the title screen with the snazzy CRT filter!
Man these are fucking outstanding packages. The sleek menu interface, the wealth of options (especially the display options). Fantastic.
My only issues so far are:
- When turning the wallpaper off, it's not actually gone, it's instead replaced by this black/grey gradient or something, have look:
- Sonic 1 doesn't have a BGM menu despite LF having it. I know about the cheat code, but you'd think they'd have put one in regardless.
Still wonderful. Here have a look at the title screen with the snazzy CRT filter!
The extra options are great as well. Sonic gives you the Megaplay arcade version of it to play - which is a speed run version (strict time limit) and a nice new spin on the game. And speaking of spin, the jump spin thingy from Mania alongside 2's spindash is also in as options, and the drop dash is super useful in traversing levels faster.
Thunderforce IV basically gives you an easy mode, that lets me enjoy the game more so than if it was just a straight port. They are both fantastic. I can't wait for Phantasy Star and the other games to come.
Also as mentioned above, I'd take any and all Outrun (Turbo, 2, Runners) ports I can get. Be nice to get proper perfect ports of them and I can't think of a team better than M2 to do the job.
Nope, and it's a damn shame. I really hope it'll happen someday.
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BTW Out Run is officially dated for Nov 29th in Japan, indeed still keeping the one a month minimum! :D
https://gematsu.com/2018/11/sega-ages-out-run-launches-november-29-in-japan
https://gematsu.com/2018/11/sega-ages-out-run-launches-november-29-in-japan
Can't wait for Outrun. I've played it countless times before but it'll be so nice to have it on the Switch to play.
Prepare to be disappointed...
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-11-21-sega-classic-out-run-headed-to-nintendo-switch
Early next year for Outrun :(
Definitely, if just for the new music.
As well as all the original music and the new 3DS stuff, it will also have classic-ised versions of Step on Beat and Radiation.
I suppose. It's only gonna be around £6.50. I'll boot it up on 3DS again to have another play through it.
It's weird that Sega will soon have a better legacy software library on the Switch than Nintendo. Which is a good thing for me in a way, as I've never owned a Sega so it's all new to me.
I'm quite hyped for Phantasy Star.
I'm quite hyped for Phantasy Star.
I don't understand why these aren't worldwide releases day and date.
I was thinking that the other day. SNK, Sega, Capcom all have more compelling retro content on the Switch now than Nintendo does.
Nice, a classic version of Radiation may be the one thing that can convince me to not use Cruising Line every time.
Same, guess it's time to go set up a Japanese PayPal account. I chose to endure Phantasy Star's constant delays in hopes that it was an unfortunate one-off but if this is how it's going to be for every future game then why wait? They've all had English translations baked into the JP releases so far, and even if they don't it's not a big deal since Phantasy Star was the only text-heavy game where it mattered.
Is there a best practice/instructions for setting up a Japanese PayPal account that will work seamlessly with the eShop?
I was gonna get it anyway but damn, that's awesome. No way I'm waiting until next year, so JP eShop it is.