So there is new slowdown? I've noticed it ever since I bought it, but couldn't remember if it was there before or if it was placebo from having been used to Mania's locked framerate.
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Sega Ages Virtua Racing announced for Switch (out now)
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I haven't really encountered any of that on my playthrough, but I'm no Sonic expert. All I've seen mentioned are occasional issues with the hacked in spin/dropdash being weird sometimes (like when done right next to powerup/ring monitors), is there really additional unavoidable slowdown?
Yeah, it's nothing major tho. I'm just calling attention to what should have been a safe bet port for the "M2 gods."
Holy shit! I remember playing it on the arcade back in, uhhh, spring 1993 I think, and was so blown away by it! Never played it since, so it will be interesting to return to it!
You mean Outrun 2? People are not going to be absolutely needing another Outrun above other games when we are already going to have the original Outrun.
I have the saturn version, so I'm in
This is interesting
Glad a ton of my wants /faves made the wishlist(panzer dragoon saga, burning rangers, die hard arcade, etc) hopefully this means the svwntual(and likely) wave 2 will focus on saturn and dreamcast, but time will tell
This is interesting
Glad a ton of my wants /faves made the wishlist(panzer dragoon saga, burning rangers, die hard arcade, etc) hopefully this means the svwntual(and likely) wave 2 will focus on saturn and dreamcast, but time will tell
True. I forgot the original Outrun is coming. Do we know how soon?
Has there been any discussion of any of these Sega Ages releases coming to any other consoles? I had initially thought they were all going to be genesis games, but if we're talking about that list, it would be a shame to make them exclusive to any console. I've been waiting for ports of some of those games absolutely forever (and would buy VR in a heartbeat)
Not trying to port beg, legit asking if Sega is making the SEGA Ages line switch exclusives.
Not trying to port beg, legit asking if Sega is making the SEGA Ages line switch exclusives.
Solid results!SEGA Ages Sonic 2 was also announed but since everyone expected that =P
Also they showed the results from the twitter poll
translation from someone in the chat :
1- Jet Set Radio Series
2 - Shenmue 1 & 2
3- Panzer Dragoon Saga
4- Virtua Fighter
5 - Shining series
6- Panzer Dragoon Series
7- Sakura wars
8- puyo series
9- Virtual on
10 - Burning Rangers
11- skies of Arcadia
12- NiGHTS
13- Golden Axe
14 - Bug King Series (?)
15 - Phantasy Star Online
16- Space Channel 5
17 - Outrunners
18 - Sonic Adventure series
19- DAYTONA USA
20- SPikeout
21- Dynamite Deka series
22 - Sonic 3&K
23- Virtua Racing
24- Fantasy Zone
25 - Dragon Force
26 - Sega Rally
27- Phantasy Star series
28 - Guardian Heroes
29 - Outrun 2 SP
30 - Wing War (?)
I think Wave 2 may start with some early Model 2 and Saturn games in it (VF2, Panzer 1, etc), but I don't expect much. M2 can only do so much and the producers are more retro minded I think, I expect they'll cover a lot more late 80s and early 90s ground first and I expect a lot of the 3D Classics getting recycled beforehand (Shinobi III, Gunstar Heroes, Streets of Rage 1-2, Turbo Outrun, Fantasy Zone 1-2DX, AfterBurner II, Galaxy Force II, Power Drift, Puyo Puyo Tsu, etc).
For Saturn, DC, Model 2/3 to really be viable more generally the project may have to grow beyond just M2 doing it. Sega Studio China's gone now though and they were usually the go to for this stuff last gen (NiGHTS, Dreamcast Classics, etc).
Is this a port of the arcade or any of the newer versions with more cars and tracks?
Chances of a Sega Rally port just got marginally higher.
Chances of a Sega Rally port just got marginally higher.
Arcade version but one of the screens shows a PS2 car. Knowing M2 I wouldn't be surprised if they back port all the 32X and PS2 content into it with "Model 1 limitations" in mind. Saturn content might be tougher since Time Warner was involved there.
Sweet. Still love playing this every now and then on my 32X and Saturn...actually had a period recently where I was playing it every day for a while.
Will get this. Also hoping for more Model 1 games. Would be great to finally get a perfect port of Virtua Fighter.
Will get this. Also hoping for more Model 1 games. Would be great to finally get a perfect port of Virtua Fighter.
Ah, not sure what the Saturn version had that the others didn't. As far as I'm aware the 32x version is the most complete with two extra courses and three different types of cars? The PS2 one had extra courses but only variations of the one F1 car?
The Saturn version has seven new tracks and four new cars, as well as an exclusive Grand Prix Mode.
Ah, well that would make that the definitive version then. What exactly was Warners involvement in that? Development or just publishing, guessing the former but you never know.
Model 1/2 is probably the most timeless of early 3D. Will definitely check it out. I remember my friend spending like $90 on the Genesis version of this.
SEGA Ages Sonic 2 was also announed but since everyone expected that =P
Also they showed the results from the twitter poll
translation from someone in the chat :
1- Jet Set Radio Series
2 - Shenmue 1 & 2
3- Panzer Dragoon Saga
4- Virtua Fighter
5 - Shining series
6- Panzer Dragoon Series
7- Sakura wars
8- puyo series
9- Virtual on
10 - Burning Rangers
11- skies of Arcadia
12- NiGHTS
13- Golden Axe
14 - Bug King Series (?)
15 - Phantasy Star Online
16- Space Channel 5
17 - Outrunners
18 - Sonic Adventure series
19- DAYTONA USA
20- SPikeout
21- Dynamite Deka series
22 - Sonic 3&K
23- Virtua Racing
24- Fantasy Zone
25 - Dragon Force
26 - Sega Rally
27- Phantasy Star series
28 - Guardian Heroes
29 - Outrun 2 SP
30 - Wing War (?)
Man the absent of Alien Solder, Gunstar Heroes and Pulseman really hurts. Those are the three games I want the most. :(
I think they are a small studio. They probably just dont have the ability to be working on multiple hardware. If they did work on more devices, it may take them even longer to receive games than what we are getting now.
The lack of Mega Drive only games and how low is Sonic 3 would make me guess that it was more of a "ok mega drive games have more chance already so lets vote for the weird ones"
and by weird I mean games SEGA didn't ported a lot in those colections
But, are the seven new tracks from the Saturn version including the three new tracks of the 32x edition? I am looking around online, but am not seeing any explanation yet. A definitive version could be a combination of the Saturn and 32x edition. Here are the credits from the two versions.
Saturn
32X
I wonder what Sega's take on the Alien franchise would be. They have the game licenses (do they still?). Alien 3 (Genesis) or Alien 3 The Gun (Arcade) would be interesting.
Technically, no, impossible - because the 3DS has a lower resolution than the arcade game.
The 32X and Saturn tracks are completely different aside from the three arcade ones.But, are the seven new tracks from the Saturn version including the three new tracks of the 32x edition? I am looking around online, but am not seeing any explanation yet. A definitive version could be a combination of the Saturn and 32x edition. Here are the credits from the two versions.
Saturn
32X
I wonder what Sega's take on the Alien franchise would be. They have the game licenses (do they still?). Alien 3 (Genesis) or Alien 3 The Gun (Arcade) would be interesting.
I read up a bit on it and it seems like the Saturn version didn't include the arcade or the 32x tracks. Or renamed them.
someone beat me to it
Edit: double post on account of me quoting instead of editing :/
resolution's pretty irrelevant. there was already going to be an attempt, but without the source code, emulating it was too costly on the hardware
To be fair, some may assume they'll be on there anyway. Phantasy Star 1 was announced in the initial batch and the project lead is Rieko Kodama. If at least 2 and 4 don't come I'd be super surprised.
With no analog trigger.... err... it will feel as weird as on the Megadrive....
but i'm in :3
I wish we could choose the higher detailed PS2 Sega Ages models (flatout), but it will do for authenticity.
Look at the wheels of that version, or the hands of the pilot... :
This is how you think you remember it looked like, not how it really looked like, and it would be a nice option.
Left analogue for steering, left and right triggers for the up/down gear shift flippers, up/down on the right analogue for accelerate/brake. A few racing games have offered similar control schemes in the past, works OK.
Resolution in a 3D game like Virtua Racing is very important. A resolution of 496x384 in 1992 was one of the reasons why the game stood out so much. In fact, one of the reasons a lot of 3DS games drive me nuts is, in fact, the terrible, terrible, SUB-PSP res.
In some ways the 3DS is simply not up to the task of recreating certain classics.
A true port of VR on 3DS is simply impossible.
I have a really bad memories from Gran Turismo right stick analog acceleration/braking, but... beggars can't be choosers, and i wanted that port (i mean the M2 take on Virtua Racing) ;)
Must be great to finally find the game you loved after all these years. I had the same thing with Magical Drop. There is something about finding an old game from our childhood that we had no idea what its name was.
Didn't we have a thread for this exact purpose? Someone would describe a game from what they remember of it and everyone's trying to help them find the game's name.
Games you remember, names you don't ;)
And yeah, labo support would be good for kids, however VR is still a fast paced game, i hope the cardboard and assembly are robust xD
They could add support for GCN controllers; they have analog triggers!
They could also support the Labo steering wheel... M2 did say that they were interested in Labo support...
I also wouldn't expect anything from the Saturn version, or any acknowledgment of its existence. The original VR staff had absolutely nothing to do with it at all, it was produced entirely independently by Time Warner Interactive, with basically no input from SEGA.
I'd expect content from the 32X version to make the cut though! That actually was produced by the original VR staff!
They could also support the Labo steering wheel... M2 did say that they were interested in Labo support...
I also wouldn't expect anything from the Saturn version, or any acknowledgment of its existence. The original VR staff had absolutely nothing to do with it at all, it was produced entirely independently by Time Warner Interactive, with basically no input from SEGA.
I'd expect content from the 32X version to make the cut though! That actually was produced by the original VR staff!
Are you referring to the 3DS versions? I have never encountered any slowdown. I grew up on Sonic, so I would definitely notice.
How is resolution irrelevant when talking about an arcade perfect port? If it's not offering the same graphical fidelity, it's not perfect. The question wasn't whether a port could have been done, but whether it would have been an arcade perfect port. It wouldn't have been. Totally relevant.
Sapiens is correct. A pixel-perfect version would be impossible on 3DS, if only because of a significant difference in resolution between 3DS and Sega's MODEL 1 arcade hardware.
Sega MODEL 1: https://segaretro.org/Sega_Model_1
3DS resolution is (800)400×240 pixels.
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Yeah, duckroll, absolutely. As you understand, it really a simple fact, not an opinion It can either be a (potentially) pixel perfect port, or it can't, because there's no getting around 3DS' resolution. You're right, it is indeed completely relevant.
Edit: Also it is completely obvious why Gain Ground (System 24 Hardware) is coming to Switch and never came to 3DS.
Among other things, the display resolution. This was Sega's first arcade board that required a 'medium resolution' arcade monitor. And while System 24 (1988) is like 4 years older than MODEL 1 (1992), the System 24 uses a lot of small sprites and (relatively) high resolution compared to the System 16 (and Super-Scalar) family of hardware.
https://segaretro.org/Sega_System_24
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I hope it includes the content from the 32X version, my personal fave, like additional cars and tracks. I assume two player mode as well but if it's a straight port of the arcade then maybe that won't make it in.
Yeah I mean it would be up to sega to allocate the resources. Just not clear why sega would be doing genesis collections multiplatform but ports of lesser known arcade games would be platform exclusive. Oh well, guess we'll see how it evolves.
Original source code, and that there are other games in that list already being worked on
