SEGA removes Yakuza 6 demo (in the US) because players were able to unlock full game

Oct 25, 2017
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Its still my favourite 100% of the series. Really enjoyed doing almost all of it (darn arena). Definitely can't see them doing another game in the series with this much content for a few years for sure!
It's funny, even though I would rank it pretty low, I can entirely understand why it would be someones favorite in the series. Not only is it the most content rich, but damn there's just a lot of heart in that game. I loved all the side activities, racing and taxi driving as Kaz, the Monster Hunter-esque hunting game, everything in Haruka's chapter. That game also had a ton of excellent substories. The new character had a really fun fighting style and I really dug the narrative of his chapter.
 

Danthrax

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i just don't get why having users download the entire game just to play a demo makes any sense...yeah, the JP one had barriers up to prevent more gameplay, but stuff like this can happen. why do it?
Hopefully this incident teaches Sega (and other publishers) that the time and money spent on making a demo version of a game is well worth it. Don't just hack a blocker into the full game and hope that someone chooses the correct 34-gigabyte file to make live on the server.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I feel like an idiot not downloading the demo because it was so large and would've taken me hours. At least I'd be playing the game now with everyone else getting it a month and a half early. I still certainly would have kept my preorder too. I have no qualms supporting a franchise for which I've enjoyed every single entry.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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Not to be a jerk or anything, but hypothetically, who is to blame for this error? Surely it's not the localization team, right? As far as I know, localization teams primarily work for translations, censorship for specific countries, editing of scenes to make more sense to general audiences, and other things of that nature. Do the localization teams handle digital distribution, too? I thought that would have been handled by the publisher rather than the localization team of the development.

I'm not trying to lowball the importance of a localization team; I'm just trying to understand how big of a role they take. I don't think they should be taking the heat for something like this if it wasn't actually their fault.
 

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i'd still keep my pre order just coz i can afford too.

plus, that's 2 months later. i get to play the game early, so in essence, i'm getting a bonus early.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Missed the window, would've dled and kept my LE preorder. Hoping they won't be hit too hard by this, with the short window of time it was up and that it was during the work day...
 
Oct 27, 2017
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double posting to answer a question



No, quite the opposite. There's a curvy line burned into the bottom edge of Saturn discs that the Saturn looks for. Off-the-shelf CD burners can't reproduce it. A mod chip is required to make the Saturn play burned CDs. Although this guy is coming up with a new solution:


The Sega CD plays burned games with no modification, though.
Couldn't one just swap the discs out at the right time? I guess no modification was slightly incorrect since you would need to remove the top case and somehow hold down the lever that makes the system see the cd tray being closed.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I guess I am one of the lucky ones.

Now I won’t have to buy the game I guess.
When you play this game you'll understand that you must support this game out of any single one that comes out this year.

Don't be that one guy on Resetera, all of us that got the full game through the demo are buying the limited edition, or the standard edition.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Why I would buy a game I already legally own?
If someone mistakenly gave you something valuable, you would not only hold onto it when they realized their mistake but go further and make a remark about how great it is that now you don't have to pay for it?

Call me naive but if I was enjoying the demo and was planning on buying the game I would pay for it anyways. There are people behind the making of this game who worked their asses off for years, don't be so callous. It doesn't matter that it's just one sale, it's a principle.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I have to wonder, if I do play using this “demo,” can I transfer the save to the disc copy?

Either way, I’m probably fine just waiting for my disc copy.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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What even drives a person to post "yeah, guess I won't need to buy this after all!" yikes. Better not say anything at all.
I have to wonder, if I do play using this “demo,” can I transfer the save to the disc copy?

Either way, I’m probably fine just waiting for my disc copy.
My guess is that there will be no transferring process at all since the application seems to be the actual game with a different icon, so it'd be like a physical copy recognizing your save from a digital one.
 

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Why wouldn't you? It's just $60 and you'll be supporting the team as well us the community.
It's clear that he doesn't give a shit. I wouldn't waste my time on trying to convince him. Way more productive things to do with one's time than waste time thinking about dudes like that.
 

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It's clear that he doesn't give a shit. I wouldn't waste my time on trying to convince him. Way more productive things to do with one's time than waste time thinking about dudes like that.
People like him are exactly why poor Scott has been living in Hell for the past 24 hours. No matter how many of us reaffirm our commitment to support the series and the creators, there's always going to be selfish folks who don't even think for a second about how their actions could potentially doom the series in the West.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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What even drives a person to post "yeah, guess I won't need to buy this after all!" yikes. Better not say anything at all.

My guess is that there will be no transferring process at all since the application seems to be the actual game with a different icon, so it'd be like a physical copy recognizing your save from a digital one.
Complete lack of self esteem and going around life being a douchebag.

one would say he's just looking for attention.


But that's fine. As long as we all continue our support for this game, it's going to do great.
From what i've tried in the demo, it's so incredibly good, i can't see this doing bad on sales.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It's clear that he doesn't give a shit. I wouldn't waste my time on trying to convince him. Way more productive things to do with one's time than waste time thinking about dudes like that.
I feel terrible for the person who screwed up (makes me wince to imagine how they feel), and it's great to see so many people keeping their pre-orders in spite of getting the game for free, but this isn't a little indie developer who went deep into the red to get their game out with bills to pay. Sega will lose a percentage of their profits. That percentage will likely be small. Profts will still be made.

I'm not going to judge anyone who benefited from this mistake, yet isn't going out of their way to reimburse Sega, as if they're some kind of asshole; especially considering how much anyone who downloads demos the day they go up likely contributes to the industry already.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I guess I am one of the lucky ones.

Now I won’t have to buy the game I guess.


And you don't "legally own" the game. If Sony had the capability to remotely remove content, they could, and you would have no legal recourse.
From the PSN TOS:
Except as stated in this agreement, all content and software provided through PSN Services are licensed non-exclusively and revocably to you for your personal, private, non-transferable, non-commercial, limited use on a limited number of devices in the country in which your Account is registered
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Not to be a jerk or anything, but hypothetically, who is to blame for this error? Surely it's not the localization team, right? As far as I know, localization teams primarily work for translations, censorship for specific countries, editing of scenes to make more sense to general audiences, and other things of that nature. Do the localization teams handle digital distribution, too? I thought that would have been handled by the publisher rather than the localization team of the development.

I'm not trying to lowball the importance of a localization team; I'm just trying to understand how big of a role they take. I don't think they should be taking the heat for something like this if it wasn't actually their fault.
That's a lot of mentions about the localization team. This game was a large effort by Sega as a whole. All offices were involved and multiple employees. I think internally, Sony and Sega know what caused the mixup, but at the end of the day it's going to hurt Sega as a whole in terms of sales. I've worked in QA and localization before and there a lot of people involved with releasing a game in other countries. It's just one of those unfortunate mistakes that happened.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It's clear that he doesn't give a shit. I wouldn't waste my time on trying to convince him. Way more productive things to do with one's time than waste time thinking about dudes like that.
I'll just buy 2 copies to compensate, my friend is interested in the series but he has Ni No Kuni 2 prioritized. The game still has the cutscenes from previous games, for catching up, right?
 
Oct 31, 2017
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Very sad to see this happen. The last thing the series needs is to lose day 1 sales because they made a mistake in trying to advertise the game with a demo.
 
Feb 8, 2018
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I downloaded the demo.

I think I'm just gonna delete it and download it again after buying at launch. Still gotta finish Yakuza Kiwami and watch a shitload of recap videos on the other ones before playing 6 anyway.

It's a really unfortunate situation, and people that plan on keeping it and not paying should seriouslly be ashamed of themselves.

I loved Yakuza 0, have been loving Kiwami, and planned on pre ordering 6 anyway. This series really deserves it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I'll just buy 2 copies to compensate, my friend is interested in the series but he has Ni No Kuni 2 prioritized. The game still has the cutscenes from previous games, for catching up, right?
Seems like it's just short summaries going by the demo instead of footage like previous games.
 

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I'll just buy 2 copies to compensate, my friend is interested in the series but he has Ni No Kuni 2 prioritized. The game still has the cutscenes from previous games, for catching up, right?
Yeah the first half hour or so shows everything important to 6 that happened in 5 and has a dream sequence where you can walk up to characters from past games important in 6 and kiryu will quickly sum up what you need to know about them relative to 6 via talking to them.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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It's funny, I got bored of Yakuza 0 and sold that off but I got the full game of Yakuza 6 and can't seem to put it down.

I'll most likely buy it of course. Or maybe I can get someone to gift it for me since it releases the week of my birthday :D
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Canada
I decided to delete the demo, I was only a bit into Chapter 1. It just did not feel right knowing I truly had access to the full game. I am still getting the after hours edition and I am willing to wait a couple of months since I have other games to hold me over.
 

pa22word

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I feel terrible for the person who screwed up (makes me wince to imagine how they feel), and it's great to see so many people keeping their pre-orders in spite of getting the game for free, but this isn't a little indie developer who went deep into the red to get their game out with bills to pay. Sega will lose a percentage of their profits. That percentage will likely be small. Profts will still be made.

I'm not going to judge anyone who benefited from this mistake, yet isn't going out of their way to reimburse Sega, as if they're some kind of asshole; especially considering how much anyone who downloads demos the day they go up likely contributes to the industry already.
This reasoning might be applicable if we weren't talking about a series where due to low sales half the series either hasnt been/wasn't localized or passed on localization but only came due to outside circumstances (y5), or even had a neutered localization to cut costs (y3).

Yakuza needs every single sale it can get. I think some forget that it wasn't too long ago that Sega gave up and the series was dead in the west. You can say a lot about Sony, and Lord knows I have, but I'll always be thankful to them for saving the series in the west when they decided to help foot the bill for 5.
 

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Man, it's cool if you want to do that and maybe I'm wrong, but your post just reads like it's trying to get a rise out of people who are clearly annoyed by this type of sentiment.
Not that I need to justify jack shit to anybody here, but it means that I don't have to buy a standard copy alongside the CE I was planning on keeping sealed, like I was planning to.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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So, the people that got it, can't get it taken away from then, so now Yakuza 6 is just officially leaked full out there somewhere?

Would suck if Sega started to go after people unlocking the trophies or posting content about it before launch... that being said, i would not be surprised either.
wouldn't we know if the demo has trophies? unless they're all hidden trophies by default
 
Oct 27, 2017
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shadowman16 over in the Y thread said that when Japanese players started the main game they had loads of trophies pop automatically, so I'd assume that yes it does track it in some way for the western release too.
i meant if this demo/full game download included all the trophies meant to be in the full game, or if it only included trophies up to the part where the demo is supposed to end (and you'd presumably just stop getting trophies as you kept playing)
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah the first half hour or so shows everything important to 6 that happened in 5 and has a dream sequence where you can walk up to characters from past games important in 6 and kiryu will quickly sum up what you need to know about them relative to 6 via talking to them.
That's actually a better summary, if perfectly executed, than what I experienced during 4 which is cutscenes from 1 - 3.