Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice |OT2| Domo Arigato, Mr. ROBERTOOOOO!!!

Sh0k · Apr 17, 2019

Question regarding the Purification ending

I'm on NG+ and I already did all the requirements for the Purification ending, currently fighting Owl Father in Hirata Estate for the 20th time with no luck, fight is super annoying. Can I continue unlocking the Fountainhead Palace to finish collecting the rest of the Lapis Lazulis I need to complete the Prosthetic upgrades and then come back at a later time and continue fighting Owl Father?

Gevin · Apr 17, 2019

Sh0k said:
Question regarding the Purification ending

I'm on NG+ and I already did all the requirements for the Purification ending, currently fighting Owl Father in Hirata Estate for the 20th time with no luck, fight is super annoying. Can I continue unlocking the Fountainhead Palace to finish collecting the rest of the Lapis Lazulis I need to complete the Prosthetic upgrades and then come back at a later time and continue fighting Owl Father?

Pretty sure that at this point you can complete all of FP and come back to win the fight without any problem. If you want to play it safe don't fight the boss at FP

Sh0k · Apr 17, 2019

Gevin said:
Pretty sure that at this point you can complete all of FP and come back to win the fight without any problem. If you want to play it safe don't fight the boss at FP

Thanks, by boss at Fountainhead you mean the dragon?

Gevin · Apr 17, 2019

Sh0k said:
Thanks, by boss at Fountainhead you mean the dragon?

Yep

cj_iwakura · Apr 17, 2019

Jinfash said:
After facing Seven Spears a bunch of times, and almost getting him, I gave in and went full on 🧀🧀🧀.

A part of me is ashamed, but another part is proud.

Which one? :P

I burnt that fool to death with oil.

Morrigan · Apr 17, 2019

So what are [end-game] Isshin's parting words? I had Emma talk to me about in NG+, and she said to come back when I had learned... I dunno, something. Couldn't progress further into this dialogue, and NG+3 she doesn't say it. :thonk:

Gustaf said:
does the confetti give you an general attack boost? or it is specific to some enemies?

Both.

Deleted member 35011 · Apr 17, 2019

Just beat the corrupted Monk. When I saw the 3 health bars I was like "Okay...this is gonna take a while..." but turns out he's mega parriable in the first two stages, and come last stage I may have spammed firecrackers at him. Super fun fight, but I'm hoping the game ends soon because I think I'm beginning to get tired of it.

cj_iwakura · Apr 17, 2019

I can't parry the final boss's lightning for the life of me. Too much going on.

Morrigan said:
So what are [end-game] Isshin's parting words? I had Emma talk to me about in NG+, and she said to come back when I had learned... I dunno, something. Couldn't progress further into this dialogue, and NG+3 she doesn't say it. :thonk:

Both.

You have to master a skill tree, then you learn a new one, supposedly.

Deleted member 17643 · Apr 17, 2019

Morrigan said:
So what are [end-game] Isshin's parting words? I had Emma talk to me about in NG+, and she said to come back when I had learned... I dunno, something. Couldn't progress further into this dialogue, and NG+3 she doesn't say it. :thonk:

Apparently she's there to give you the final skill tree if you didn't already get it from Isshin (via mastering one of the other skill trees).

Orangecoke · Apr 17, 2019

cj_iwakura said:
I can't parry the final boss's lightning for the life of me. Too much going on.

You have to master a skill tree, then you learn a new one, supposedly.

I wish I could get to the lightning part. It's the phase before I can't last 10 seconds. I wish I could quit because the game makes me mad enough to punch a kitten, but it's so stupidly addictive at the same time.

cj_iwakura · Apr 17, 2019

Orangecoke said:
I wish I could get to the lightning part. It's the phase before I can't last 10 seconds. I wish I could quit because the game makes me mad enough to punch a kitten, but it's so stupidly addictive at the same time.

Be patient and bait out his aerial jump, hit him from the side. At the end of the nasty combo, he does the attack you can spear counter.

Orangecoke · Apr 17, 2019

In his second phase after the warmup fight, can you not Mikiri Counter his perilous thrust? He keeps doing it and I keep failing the counter.

Morrigan · Apr 17, 2019

cj_iwakura said:
I can't parry the final boss's lightning for the life of me. Too much going on.

You have to master a skill tree, then you learn a new one, supposedly.

Dr_Boris_Goltz said:
Apparently she's there to give you the final skill tree if you didn't already get it from Isshin (via mastering one of the other skill trees).

Weird. Pretty sure I already have all the skill trees unlocked...

Deleted member 17643 · Apr 17, 2019

Morrigan said:
Weird. Pretty sure I already have all the skill trees unlocked...

There's a special one that only unlocks once you speak to Isshin (or Emma after Isshin dies) after acquiring a final skill in any of the other trees.

Or are you saying you already have that?

Orangecoke · Apr 17, 2019

I better take a break. I legit was about to throw my controller at the TV.

Gevin · Apr 17, 2019

Orangecoke said:
I better take a break. I legit was about to throw my controller at the TV.

Morrigan · Apr 17, 2019

Dr_Boris_Goltz said:
There's a special one that only unlocks once you speak to Isshin (or Emma after Isshin dies) after acquiring a final skill in any of the other trees.

Or are you saying you already have that?

Another skill tree? Are you serious? :( Anyway I'm pretty sure in NG+ I had at least one final skill in one of the trees... I have 5 skill trees IIRC: Shinobi Arts, Ashina Arts, Prosthetic Arts, Temple Arts, and Mushin Arts. I've had all 5 trees unlocked since NG. Pretty sure I unlocked one of the final skills in NG too, I think it was Shadowrush or Ashina Cross.

Deleted member 17643 · Apr 17, 2019

Morrigan said:
Another skill tree? Are you serious? :( Anyway I'm pretty sure in NG+ I had at least one final skill in one of the trees... I have 5 skill trees IIRC: Shinobi Arts, Ashina Arts, Prosthetic Arts, Temple Arts, and Mushin Arts. I've had all 5 trees unlocked since NG. Pretty sure I unlocked one of the final skills in NG too, I think it was Shadowrush or Ashina Cross.

No it's the mushin arts... Weird that Emma still has that same dialogue since that's all she gives you.

JudgmentJay · Apr 17, 2019

Yuuber said:
For those who finished the game, who's harder in your opinion?

Demon of Hatred, Father Owl or Sword Saint Isshin ?

Probably Isshin. Demon of Hatred took longer to learn (2 hours) but I one-shot him in NG+/++/+++. Isshin I beat after 1 hour of attempts, but on NG+ he took another hour to re-kill. I did one-shot him on NG++ though. Owl also took an hour to kill but that was on NG+ where a few of his attacks could 1-shot me from full health with max vitality. I don't feel like I have a very good idea of his actual difficulty. Much like a Souls game they all feel very easy now.

Morrigan · Apr 17, 2019

Dr_Boris_Goltz said:
No it's the mushin arts... Weird that Emma still has that same dialogue since that's all she gives you.

I see. Must be a weird glitch then. I'm relieved I don't have a 6th skill tree to unlock lol.

Psychotron · Apr 17, 2019

I knew I was having an easier time on my second play through, but it was validated 100% today. I just beat

Genichiro

on my first try, and easily too!! My first time took me over 30 tries, but this time I crushed him. Feels good.

jonjonaug · Apr 17, 2019

Firefly said:
Whats the max number of prayer beads you can acquire in a single Return ending run? My Vitality is 19 and have 2 beads in my inventory.

finalflame said:
So I'm at the

bull

and just beat

lady butterfly

this morning. I know this is early game, but how early? How much of the game is this early part/how much is left, if anyone has context?

I just re-started on PC and am now further than I ever got on console and the game at a consistent 60fps has clicked 1000x better than it ever did when I was playing it on console. I'm so hooked.

Like, maybe 15-25%? Depends on how long you spend going through the castle and if you take the time to explore any side paths.

Ocarina_117 · Apr 17, 2019

How easy is it to miss optional areas and bosses in this game?

Vigamox · Apr 17, 2019

Ocarina_117 said:
How easy is it to miss optional areas and bosses in this game?

Not very. Off the top of my head I can't think of any really hidden areas or bosses. The only thing is that there are some bosses tucked away in different endings, which can be hard to find for yourself.

Arkeband · Apr 17, 2019

Vigamox said:
Not very. Off the top of my head I can't think of any really hidden areas or bosses. The only thing is that there are some bosses tucked away in different endings, which can be hard to find for yourself.

The second bell, which has two bosses, one of which has an achievement attached to it and both have prayer beads which are needed for an achievement, is pretty easily missed and requires eavesdropping on multiple stages of NPC behavior.

Orangecoke · Apr 17, 2019

Arkeband said:
The second bell, which has two bosses, one of which has an achievement attached to it and both have prayer beads which are needed for an achievement, is pretty easily missed and requires eavesdropping on multiple stages of NPC behavior.

Yup I missed it

finalflame · Apr 17, 2019

He justr

jonjonaug said:
Like, maybe 15-25%? Depends on how long you spend going through the castle and if you take the time to explore any side paths.

Thanks -- I see the castle is seemingly huge. Chipping away at it.

The Third Heat · Apr 17, 2019

Really want to let out a Primal Yell for FINALLY downing Genichiro. But I won't because none of you could hear it. I feel like I have my game back! I can go exploring again! New areas to see! New idiots to die to!

Wasn't even my best run. Low on healing, making a ton of dumb mistakes... I just got INSANELY lucky with a few of the lightning reversals and managed to break his posture super fast. Felt so good. Almost missed the second deathblow prompt I was so shocked (ha!).

This game is good, y'all. I take it back. I take ALL of it back.

Chopchop · Apr 17, 2019

So I was like "I have three beads and I know where one more miniboss is, so let's go there".

I think two hours later, I finally took down that fucking rifle asshole in the poison pool. This is the first enemy I've seen in the game that made me rage. I'm not sure if I'm underleveled or what, but FUCK these things:
- Fuck the fucking tracking grab. Oh, it's a grab I've seen a million times, so let's try to jump and stomp it. Nope, grabs me out of the fucking air 50% of the time. I can back off but then...
- Fuck how fast her (sounds like a her?) posture bar recovers.
- Fuck the amount of damage and posture damage she does on anything that's not a parry.
- Fuck the stupid camera unlocking in the dumbest places.

In the end I got used enough to fighting her that I could pressure her into the corner, then just stand there, attacking once and parrying anything she did in reply over and over until I slowly, VERY FUCKING SLOWLY, built up enough posture damage to deathblow her. And if she did the grab then I had to jump away instead of risking the air grab, losing a ton of posture damage progress in the process. I tried to mitigate the loss by re-engaging with a charged Ichimonji, but that was a bit risky because I was fucked if I misjudged the timing or the spacing, plus it doesn't even seem to do enough posture damage to help that much.

I finally have my four beads, but damn that was frustrating. This miniboss would have been fine if that fucking grab didn't have such a bullshit hitbox.

I think I unlocked yet another area, but I think I'm going to go back to the castle for now.

That Naive Cube!! · Apr 17, 2019

Finally beat

Sword Saint Isshin without Kuro's Charm

! On to NG+++!

AgentOtaku · Apr 17, 2019

The Third Heat said:
Really want to let out a Primal Yell for FINALLY downing Genichiro. But I won't because none of you could hear it. I feel like I have my game back! I can go exploring again! New areas to see! New idiots to die to!

Wasn't even my best run. Low on healing, making a ton of dumb mistakes... I just got INSANELY lucky with a few of the lightning reversals and managed to break his posture super fast. Felt so good. Almost missed the second deathblow prompt I was so shocked (ha!).

This game is good, y'all. I take it back. I take ALL of it back.

Congrats!

Also bested him just the other day

Kyuur · Apr 17, 2019

Took down DoH today. Once I got him down to his last life I was set.

Only the final boss to go now. I've given it a couple attempts so far and got to the spear phase.

I think Butterfly will end up still having been the hardest boss for me, with Gen as second. Interested to see how tough they'll be on a second go-around.

cj_iwakura · Apr 18, 2019

That Naive Cube!! said:
Finally beat

Sword Saint Isshin without Kuro's Charm

! On to NG+++!

What does that do?

Siegmeyer · Apr 18, 2019

Chopchop said:
So I was like "I have three beads and I know where one more miniboss is, so let's go there".

I think two hours later, I finally took down that fucking rifle asshole in the poison pool. This is the first enemy I've seen in the game that made me rage. I'm not sure if I'm underleveled or what, but FUCK these things:
- Fuck the fucking tracking grab. Oh, it's a grab I've seen a million times, so let's try to jump and stomp it. Nope, grabs me out of the fucking air 50% of the time. I can back off but then...
- Fuck how fast her (sounds like a her?) posture bar recovers.
- Fuck the amount of damage and posture damage she does on anything that's not a parry.
- Fuck the stupid camera unlocking in the dumbest places.

In the end I got used enough to fighting her that I could pressure her into the corner, then just stand there, attacking once and parrying anything she did in reply over and over until I slowly, VERY FUCKING SLOWLY, built up enough posture damage to deathblow her. And if she did the grab then I had to jump away instead of risking the air grab, losing a ton of posture damage progress in the process. I tried to mitigate the loss by re-engaging with a charged Ichimonji, but that was a bit risky because I was fucked if I misjudged the timing or the spacing, plus it doesn't even seem to do enough posture damage to help that much.

I finally have my four beads, but damn that was frustrating. This miniboss would have been fine if that fucking grab didn't have such a bullshit hitbox.

I think I unlocked yet another area, but I think I'm going to go back to the castle for now.

Jumping is generally for avoiding sweep attacks. While you can sometimes jump some enemies grabs, you're better off trying to dodge at the right time.

Morrigan · Apr 18, 2019

cj_iwakura said:
What does that do?

Going charmless:

30% more HP on bosses, they deal 20-30% (?) more damage, and you can't block, you take damage on any imperfect deflection

It's hard as fuck. I gave up.

cj_iwakura · Apr 18, 2019

Morrigan said:
Going charmless:

30% more HP on bosses, they deal 20-30% (?) more damage, and you can't block, you take damage on any imperfect deflection

It's hard as fuck. I gave up.

F that.

Violence Jack · Apr 18, 2019

Help on

Great Shinobi Owl

please.

I can read most of his movements, and I've almost beaten him twice by just running around and hitting him when there's an opening. But he does this sprint across the floor that hits me before I can block or deflect it to make my running around strategy no longer work. Any tips?

EDIT: Nevermind. Last attempt of the night I finally beat him. I was letting him get too close before I ran away. Whew!

Sully · Apr 18, 2019

Finally beat the last boss after about 30 tries, feels good man. Still one optional boss I think but it sounds like I missed out on my chances for the alternate endings because I did things in the wrong order :/ I guess that's typical From Game though.

Still had a hell of a time with Sekiro!

XR. · Apr 18, 2019

That Naive Cube!! said:
Finally beat

Sword Saint Isshin without Kuro's Charm

! On to NG+++!

Nicely done. :D

Seems to be many of us who did NG++ specifically without Kuro's Charm.

Morrigan · Apr 18, 2019

4th ending achieved. Another downer one (Immortal Severance) ;_;

Now what the hell am I gonna play

cj_iwakura said:
F that.

Indeed. Made it as far as Shinobi Owl before giving up. xD

Dante316 · Apr 18, 2019

Still on final boss , hopefully will get him in the morning, Damm annoying getting close and dying

XR. · Apr 18, 2019

Morrigan said:
Now what the hell am I gonna play

Charmless.

😯

Morrigan · Apr 18, 2019

Questionable Giraffe said:
Charmless.

😯

I tried that.

It did not go well.

XR. · Apr 18, 2019

Morrigan said:
I tried that.

It did not go well.

I'm just messing. 😉

But the thing with charmless is, I don't think it goes very well for anyone lol

GSH is still a feat, in my opinion, and not too far from the whole thing!

Blade Wolf · Apr 18, 2019

Morrigan said:
I tried that.

It did not go well.

I tried charmless on a new NG and it makes enemy too tanky for my taste. I think I'll just stick to Bell Demon.

Gustaf · Apr 18, 2019

so after being killed several times by the last phase of the last boss

i realized i was doing something wrong, i was jumping way early to counter him.

the moment i find out about that, he was gone!

my first From's game finished.

is a great fucking game, i hate it, but it is a great game

Deleted member 35011 · Apr 18, 2019

So uh. What do I do against...

Demon of Hatred? Been stuck on him for like 15 minutes now. Barely got one health bar in those 15 minutes haha. I keep trying to deflect but either I miss the timing or you take damage no matter what you do, can't tell which. I tried fighting him like a Bloodborne boss and I got the first lifebar down, but it doesn't feel...right. Like the camera doesn't super behave when I get right up on his crotch so I'm constantly locking on/off to get a feel for him.

His burning attacks are...well, I got no idea how to deal with them.

Blade Wolf · Apr 18, 2019

Gustaf said:
my first From's game finished.

is a great fucking game, i hate it, but it is a great game

Welcome to the club!

Deleted member 35011 · Apr 18, 2019

Alright, I got Demon of Hatred's phase 1 pretty down....but what in the name of Christ is that charge attack he does? It takes my entire health bar and there's so little warning there.

Is there a tell to it that I'm missing?

cj_iwakura · Apr 18, 2019

SSI barks his wares in the hades.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D4auyFCWAAAiE3C.jpg

Now that was intense. The skill that auto-imbues the sword with fire was a godsend, would've taken FAR longer without it.

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