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Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice Previews Thread [See Staff Posts]
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Faster and way more focused on blocking and parrying. You can also jump to avoid attacks.
Awesome, thanks! Sounds like I'll enjoy it, kind of precisely what I want :)
I will try to play this game without parrying like I avoided that mechanic in Dark Souls. I'm curious if it's viable.
I really hope the parrying mechanic is more akin to Metal gear solid rising revengeance than Dark souls. I could not parry worth a shit in souls games, but could parry like a god in MGSR:R, which made for spectacular fights (game was designed for that..).
I saw someone do that to the corrupted monk boss, it worked fine. Don't know about other enemies.
This is usually how combat flows
I don't really know how it works in MGR but in Sekiro it's a perfect block, rather than... whatever you'd call Souls parries.
It's more immediate and seemingly more forgiving, since it's the emphasis of the combat system this time.
I will try it!
I was really bad in parrying in Dark Souls, hopefully it's way easier to pull off in Sekiro as it seems that's a big focus of the combat.
Oh, that's good to hear!
Can you link that? I've never seen someone beat that boss without parrying. I did see one guy do a deathblow, seemingly catching him in that shadow form at one point and majorly short cutting the fight, but I can't remember where.
If it's reliable and doesn't require really precise timing perhaps I will be able to parry. We'll see! I'm excited for the game.
LovelyNot really some concept art and a lot of talking. They had one of the Bloodborne producers there but it was all in Japanese.
This one was pretty nice.
That's okay! I'm not sure about parrying, but blocking I will use for sure. And I will at least try to parry, but I don't have much faith in my skilsl in that regard. We'll see!
It's made a lot easier here than souls games or probably even mgr.
That's funny. That's the exact video I was thinking of for getting him in shadow form. I forgot that guy evades that much. Nice that there is that much variety to be found in how to tackle bosses.
That's really good to hear, I love the Souls games, but I played them with sword and shield, without parry, I have to adjust a few thing for Sekiro for sure, but I think it will be a really fun experience.
There are NPCs that you can bring into certain fights but if they die that's it for them.
Yeah you're gonna have to adjust for the dodging, souls veterans and big streamers are having issues trying to play it like souls haha.
Apparently the one before Juzou respawns if you die, which contradicts what gameinformer said about them staying dead.
I think it's clear from a lot of these GIFs that the single player focus has really allowed From to elevate their already-fantastic presentation
Like in the scenes from these boss fights, there's a cinematic showdown vibe in the camerawork and animation flourishes that I don't remember the bosses and enemies in Souls or Bloodborne really having. They were wonderfully-animated too, but stuff like the close camera and angle while locked onto the Hag or the up-close-and-personal nature of that fight stands out. Since bosses don't have to be designed with multiplayer in mind, without having to worry about multiple perspectives or multiple combatants or any other aspects tied to co-op, they can make bosses whose attacks are solely focused towards a single player and is seen from a single perspective
good fucking lord this game
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So Lobos mentioned that this NPC from the Terra Mantis preview is the only one Miyazaki personally worked on.
I believe Miyazaki said in an interview that he wanted writers other than himself to work on this project in order to deviate this game from the others because he had a certain writing style and didn't want Sekiro to feel monotnous. He's still working on the overall story as far as I know but the actual writing and diaogue is done by others.So Lobos mentioned that this NPC from the Terra Mantis preview is the only one Miyazaki personally worked on.
It really did feel that way too when I saw the item descriptions from ENBs stream. Could be confirmation bias but the writing felt more straight to the point and detached from some of the mysticsm found in bloodborne for example.
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Oh yeah I'm fully caught up with that. It's nice to see him directly represented in the game in this way and I'm sure the man is plotting something with this one even if it's just a small NPC, or is it?
Nah, I noticed that too. Souls descriptions feel more weird in a certain way.
That's a Berserk reference hiding in a barrel, if anything :P
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Yeah, that has actually kind of been disappointment from what I've seen. I liked the poetic prose that seemed like it was from texts that existed in the world. The item descriptions in Sekiro seem very straight-forward, like reading a textbook entry for an item
I guess purple/cryptic prose would be the better term. It felt like you reading writing from the worlds themselves
They're deffo cryptic but most of them have nothing "poetic" about them. That's what caught me off guard.
I agree this was very noticeable and the one thing thats disappointed me so far. Im sure the story will be good since Miyakazi had a hand in the overall plot, but the item descriptions so far definitely lack that esoteric flair evident in miyazaki's writing. Everything is very straightforward.
So I decided to look up Tenchu out of curiosity and wow people weren't kidding about its influence on this. Sekiro looks about as much like Tenchu as it does Soulsborne.
Sekiro started as a new Tenchu and then evolved into what it is now. It's one of the reasons I'm so excited.
Stealth-focused ninja games are rare, I really like stealth games, I love From's approach and philosophy towards design and narrative and contextualized mechanics/systems, so Sekiro is checking off a lot of boxes there for me
Tenchu was one of my most played games on PS1. I remember doing round off flips off of roof tops over and over to style behind enemies before I'd go in for the kill. No Ninja stealth game since then has topped it for me. Also, these guys were something else.
It's viable but inefficient. I saw a preview of the scythe boss and a guy tried playing like it was Souls. He barely did posture damage and it took him about 8 minutes.
I look at it like this.
Miyazaki has to sign off on everything; if he didnt like it, it wouldnt be in the game.
This is probably the healthier way to look at it I agree.
One thing I haven't understood so far is what the health bars are even for in boss fights really? He drains the first health bar completely there but...it doesn't do anything, does it? He still has to do the posture critical attack ultimately to get anywhere?
I believe health affects how quickly enemies regenerate posture. So the more health damage you do, the less consistently you have to stay on the offensive.
Oh, I see. That'd be pretty cool surely. As incredibly positive as I am about the combat, the one thing that scares me slightly is how quickly some enemies' posture refills despite it being seemingly very hard to get to that amount of posture damage to begin with. Being on a sort of 'timer' in games is a huge pet peeve of mine so I hope it doesn't end up feeling that way constantly.
Yep like Elodes said, it slows down posture regen.