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Senate Judiciary Committee hearing - Ford & Kavanaugh testimony - 9/27 at 10am ET
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Well, I'm basically trapped in a group text with them. The only way I can stop the texts from coming in is to completely block them. It's a group chat with my three brothers and a brother-in-law, all of whom are rabid partisan Trump supporters. Also, I'm probably a masochist.
My tragic prediction is that the FBI will come back with a bunch of accounts from people who knew Kavanaugh back in the day, and they will say that yes, he was an alcoholic rapist scumbag. Republicans will say it doesnt matter and vote him in anyway.
I use Textra on Android and I can blacklist people on there (which doesn't stop the texts from coming through but only showing up in the app), but won't block them on the phone level. So any important phone calls would still come through. Not sure if you're on iOS or Android.
Well, it probably will be too limited. Proving a sexual assault claim is hard. Ideally, the investigation would look into larger credibility issues related to the case, such as Kavanaugh's claims about knowing or not knowing Dr. Ford, his convenient retconning of terms like "devil's triangle" or whatever, and other things along those lines. There is a good chance that, in his defense of himself, he's committed perjury.
The bare minimum investigation of corroborating evidence for the specific event will probably not get us much closer to being certain one way or the other.
Remember, an investigation is the least that should be done, and the main function it would have would likely be to set some parameters for our understanding of the situation (testing the credibility of Kavanaugh's self-characterizations, testing the credibility of Dr. Ford's claim that she and Kavanaugh were at this party together, etc.). There was never a good chance of it being a determinative thing, and it's a bit of a problem that it's being treated as one from the outset.
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Well the issue I have is that in our back and forth, you never once acknowledged that you were wrong about the implications of stating he could be found innocent, and I even went back to post the original post I was responding to you and found out you edited it that way. Instead of just saying "you know what, I messed up, I shouldn't have phrased it in a way that made it seem as though Ford could be lying". Instead it's this oh, by the way, yeah, I edited it, as if you misspelled a word or something and that your initial sentiment wasn't recklessly and insensitively phrased.
It comes off as disingenuous, whether you mean it that way or not.
Jesus that's powerful. so fucking sad that so many beleive that scumbag Kavanaugh, it's heartbreaking. Fuck
Yep. They've already proved they don't care about the law by the committee vote. All I can hope is that if the Dens win the mid terms they can impeach him. For that to happen we'd need a sizeable majority, I just hope my faith in the blue wave is rewarded
Yes, iphone. One of my bros has an android and I can't leave the group
Well is that imessage group is more like a text broadcast system than a group chat, if they add your number in the broadcast theres notging you can do about it.
I'm hopeful the FBI clearly illustrates the amount of distorted presentations Kavanaugh provided. At the very least, it should make the "moderate" Republicans think twice about their vote. Just such a shit show that those Republicans are so hard to find. This should be an easy, easy no vote.
Something I thought was really interesting was this moment.
The moment she starts asking questions about the names on the calendar he flounders and the Reps have to save him.
The moment she starts asking questions about the names on the calendar he flounders and the Reps have to save him.
What intent is that, exactly? The fact that it took this much politicing simply to bring about an FBI investigation for a supreme court nominee accused of sexual misconduct is insanity. I'd be much more wary of the intent of the people saying this didn't warrant any inquiry at all, especially considering most of these senators were there for and approved of the FBI investigation into Anita Hill's allegations.
One thing I don't get is why couldn't Feinstein have brought her allegations to the FBI and still preserve her confidentiality?
I dunno why people realistically think reporting attempted rape in the 80s would have resulted in fuck all against Kavanaugh. Actual rapes went nowhere. Sexual assault was and still is pretty rampant among high school and college parties. It was all but accepted at the time, too. Just go watch 80s movies. Protagonists rape and sexually assault people for laughs. And, again, it's really not much better now in a lot of ways.
This is getting no where. I have owned up to the phrasing error multiple times now. You are still continuing to twist the intent of my initial post when it is presented in a "what if" scenario. Which I clarified even more in my first reply to you.
My initial post is being viewed as reckless and insensitive not because of the phrasing, but because you have taken it out of context. Which you just wish to continue still.
With that said, I wish you a good day and wonderful weekend. o7
Revenge of the Nerds is so fucking gross. (I know that tends to be one of the first examples that gets brought up, and it's far from the only one.)
He was getting caught up in lies and then suddenly her line of questioning is over and then the only ones questioning him are the GOP senators. Like, it's obvious what's happening and infuriating that he was allowed to just interrupt, filibuster and ignore Dems' questioning when they tried to dig in.
Your representation of it just being a small, insignificant error that didn't have negative implications about people on this forum and the testimony of Ford.. comes off as disingenuous. I'm not twisting what you're saying and have backed up my argument with reasoning.
Unless I'm mistaken, that's what they tried to do, but her name leaked and they decided to go public. And I suppose it was inevitable, since clearly the public exposure was necessary to coerce the powers that be to get the FBI involved.
Damn that's a good political cartoon. Good job to whomever made it. Really elicits emotion behind all this bullshit.
Wow
Being profound without the use of words. Moves you in ways other than just what is and isnt aesthetically pleasing. This is art.
Most of the Democrats questions were a waste and overlapped with each other. They should have deferred to their most seasoned prosecutors or Mitchell.
I'm referring only to the intention of having Dr. Ford's claim investigated, and if said claim finds no legitimate evidence in support of the allegation.
Now THAT is what I call a political cartoon, it's incredibly hard hitting. Deserves a LOT of re tweets !
To be fair, Kavanaugh struggled with her softball clarifing questions. There's some merit letting her continue those questions because Kavanaugh was at least trying to answer her. But pushing for an FBI investigation got us the FBI investigation.
Good golly gee whiz I wonder how people would feel about a rapist getting a Supreme Court appointment. Quite a thinker.
Hmm.
Having her ask questions the GOP approved of over your own prepared questions makes zero sense.
Oh, any other case and I'd agree with you. But the Republicans pulled Mitchell for a reason, and it wasn't just because they wanted to yell at the Dems. Kavanaugh was sinking himself by answering basic, clarification questions, questions that should have been no problem.
He was actually trying to respond to her questions, and /that/ was the problem.
If the Dems ceded their time to her he would obviously start dodging her questions.
Would the fbi have been able to investigate had Feinstein talked to them? It's my understanding that they needed the presidents approval to reopen the background check.
I wouldn't be surprised if you saw people legitimately wearing that shirt at Trump rallies.
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