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Senate Judiciary Committee hearing - Ford & Kavanaugh testimony - 9/27 at 10am ET
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Plot twist, Graham is a nay after Trump calls and tells him he is never ever ever going to be AG (over T Swift instrumentals); Rubio votes nay after Brett Kavanaugh steals his lunch money, stuffs him in a congressional locker, and spray paints Little Marco is a FFFFFailure on the locker.
So some people in America are actually above the law? I don't mean this in a bad way but your constitution is like a noose around your necks, it's like having to have your laws based on the bible or something.
it's almost as if gasp it's not a done deal yet. hope isn't lost until hope is lost
Ted Cruz is a no after Feinstein found damning evidence that he is the Zodiac Killer and extorts him.
The only issue is that she's known for 40 years and has been holding onto the evidence until now.
There comes a point where you are sacrificing too much for a nebulous "greater good." And, there is no guarantee Manchin would lose for voting "No" on Kavanaugh, last I checked he was leading in the double digits. Further, a stand for the right thin may very well bolster more support from oppressed voters who feel no one was fighting for them before.
The problem with the Manchin strategy is that it is what led to D party to the state it is now. A party of no ideology, sacrificing morals and beliefs to protect seats for the "greater good." Well, those voters didn't turn out for Hillary because they weren't interested in the status quo, they wanted to more. So, they either sat out or voted Trump. At a certain point you have to ask yourself what the fuck you are protecting?
http://www.pewforum.org/fact-sheet/changing-attitudes-on-gay-marriage/
If Republicans think trying to make gay marriage illegal is a winning issue in light of data like the above then I say go ahead. It won't go well for them.
Regarding Roe v. Wade, they'd never overturn it wholesale because then they lose that carrot to dangle in front of their religious base. It's the single issue above all other single issues that motivates a lot of their voters. Instead they'd just try and chip away at it other ways.
If Republicans think trying to make gay marriage illegal is a winning issue in light of data like the above then I say go ahead. It won't go well for them.
Regarding Roe v. Wade, they'd never overturn it wholesale because then they lose that carrot to dangle in front of their religious base. It's the single issue above all other single issues that motivates a lot of their voters. Instead they'd just try and chip away at it other ways.
Coons is the MVP of the Senate. But it still wouldn't matter if Flake votes no unless Murkowski and Collins come along. Although, it would be nice to have a GOP member vote no regardless of the outcome.
Good grief. Statute of limitations is a thing all over the world.
Flake won't vote no without guarantees that they would vote no
Oh, I'm not saying that would be enough. I'm saying that might be why. I didn't see anything else that would be a reason to not talk to her.
It could very well be either or. I don't ever think anyone is lying when I took a sexual assault case.
At this point I wish they'd just announce it one way or another and end our national misery.
A man with a last name Flake is a motherfucking flake.
If God exists, he's a fucking troll...
If God exists, he's a fucking troll...
Right.. soo
There has to be an actual reason for the FBI turning her down. And there doesn't appear to be one
Doesn't that seem fucked to you
A judge can't be charged by the police for multiple counts of sexual assault by different people in most countries?
The Republicans have long abandoned the idea of caring about the public interest.
They still worship Ronald Reagan for shit's sake. His adoption of neoliberal Capitalism has been a source of near-universal suffering when thinking about the public interest.
Yeah I was just responding to people saying there's nothing shady.
The dispute was over whether or not their job gave them license to provide feedback on how investigations works. Fact is, it doesn't and they were talking out of their ass in the first place. The investigators being restricted from talking to key people had nothing to do with their guess on how long investigations take.
And to think Coons is only in the Senate because idiot tea party Republicans voted for a joke like Christine O'Donnell in the 2010 primary instead of Mike Castle.
Murkowski appeared last week to be a No if anyone else flipped. Thats why Flake is struggling. All 50 NonMurk GOP Senators are marginal votes.
Ok. i exaggerated a tad... you got me. heheh..
Nah man, its a damn shame. Fucking sham. I knew that from it being only a week. A week of a real investigation, SURE. With the resources of the fbi.
This was a work.
The compromised FBI just concluded an investigation that began 90 microseconds ago and apparently no one named Merrick Garland ever existed and if he did he was a full on rapist.
It has nothing to do with being a judge. You don't seem to have a firm grasp of the situation. First of all, no one has even tried filing formal charges against him in the first place. Second of all the other poster was questioning the statue of limitations aka crime happened too long ago to prosecute which is a thing all over the world. And thirdly as I responded to the other poster, there is no statute of limitations for this type of crime where the alleged crimes happened.
He could just say, hey ill vote for a better conservative candidate who isnt a trash heap.
Hope springs eternal. But we need to look forward to midterms and to doing something about the SC in the long term. 11 justices is a start.
Guy genuinely seems conflicted, but I he doesn't have much of a spine sadly.
now I'm imagining the ghost of john mccian ramming his arm up flakes back and being his spine. lol
They care when it would lead to them taking significant electoral losses by getting behind ideas like that one that aren't even very popular among their own voters. You're even seeing some of that play out right now with this confirmation. They just don't like to admit it in public.
And none of the Republicans I know (admittedly a short list) talk about Reagan anymore. Does Fox News even bring him up? I feel like they don't because Reagan is way too liberal compared to what the party is today. Can't get people nostalgic in that case.
He will be fine. He will have a lot of people thankful for his stand in this.
Oh how I would love to see this on the floor. Lol
Serious question:
Why is this all about Flake? Why aren't there more politicians in the Republican party who'd vote against Kavanaugh? I mean all party-policy forgotten, that guy seems dubious and unfit. Aren't there any Republicans seeing this?
If there would be like at least 10 Reps who'd say "Wait, I don't feel good about this guy, I won't vote for him" Flake wouldn't matter at all..
Why is this all about Flake? Why aren't there more politicians in the Republican party who'd vote against Kavanaugh? I mean all party-policy forgotten, that guy seems dubious and unfit. Aren't there any Republicans seeing this?
If there would be like at least 10 Reps who'd say "Wait, I don't feel good about this guy, I won't vote for him" Flake wouldn't matter at all..
Cause he's the lynchpin
They need 2 Repubs to vote no and all the rest are following party line, so it's Flake/Murkowski/Collins
that's the wrong question. the right question is "do they care?"
I'm from the UK so admittedly my knowledge of the inner workings of the American justice system isn't exemplary but everything you've just described sounds completely alien to me. Here people can have charges brought against them for crimes they committed many decades ago no matter the position they hold.
Anyway, I was kind of meaning the way people hold the constitution as this holy sanctity that can't be changed or updated, it's why your problems with guns will always be there unfortunately.
Yes, of course it would be fucked if they didn't have a valid reason.
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