Any more than the other 30 or so active national emergencies that I hardly know what emergency they really address?Pretty decent chance the next president will be a democrat and if this somehow gets through the courts, it gives us a ton of power. Not power the president really should have, mind you.
Sure there's always that angle, but why now? Why so many willing to play like they have spine now rather than at any other time when they still would have had the cover of a veto or the majority voting in favor of Trump anyway?They aren't.
They know hes going to veto it. 100% they know. This is them trying to look tough, to not be total pushovers, BUT, they're all cowards doing a bullshit vote that they know he will veto.
Any more than the other 30 or so active national emergencies that I hardly know what emergency they really address?
Trump has been undermining norms and breaking precedent in general for 2 years and the party has stood by without saying boo. Republicans couldn't care less about preserving the fundamental constitutionality of our democracy, so I don't get the sudden "show" over this.
Sure there's always that angle, but why now? Why so many willing to play like they have spine now rather than at any other time when they still would have had the cover of a veto or the majority voting in favor of Trump anyway?
Who's he?So he has a Veto proof number in House and Senate correct? Assuming override votes went same way of course.
Donald J. Trump
✔@realDonaldTrump
I look forward to VETOING the just passed Democrat inspired Resolution which would OPEN BORDERS while increasing Crime, Drugs, and Trafficking in our Country. I thank all of the Strong Republicans who voted to support Border Security and our desperately needed WALL!
3:43 PM - Mar 14, 2019
If he vetos it, then he opens it up for the next Democratic President to declare a national emergency when needed.
What the fuck is the point of voting against the president if he can just go "nah".
In this case: Because it allows you to posture yourself as moderate in some sense because you voted against that evil Trump who everyone hates, while still not actually hindering him or your party in any way, since you know he can just veto.What the fuck is the point of voting against the president if he can just go "nah".
What the fuck is the point of voting against the president if he can just go "nah".
Obviously his her Germanic heritage showing through (sorry people who speak German).
Nah, the Court's won't let it through59-41
He's just going to veto it. Republicans know this. You need 67 to be veto-proof? So is this just another charade?
His base doesn't like him he's a president with an (r) next to his name
It might not even come to that. Technically, it's possible the veto override can get more votes than the actual resolution, because voting to defending the Senate's role in legislating the country is more defensible a position than just saying "nope, I disapprove of Trump".
Gun violence is a national emergency.
A lack of affordable healthcare is a national emergency.
I guess the GOP play here is that there will never be a democratic president again?
Yes -- more than those other emergencies, because those emergencies were never used to override Congress's power of the purse. That's what this is about. The issue is that Trump asked for the money, congress used their check on the executive branch and said no, and Trump now is attempting to use national emergency powers to override that check that congress is guaranteed by the constitution. They know the left has multiple causes they could easily use a national emergency on and with much more substantial factual backing, so it's a bad call for them to support it.Any more than the other 30 or so active national emergencies that I hardly know what emergency they really address?
Oh man, imagine being one of the delusional idiots who voted for this man baby.
I'd die from the shame tbh.
Sadly not a dumb question, but he knows he can't just tweet his Veto, right?
I had the same thought 😄Wouldn't it have been funny if he had misspelled this as "BETO!"?
I'm not convinced of that at all.His base doesn't like him he's a president with an (r) next to his name
trust me they would much prefer someone who was even remotely effective at governance
I disagree. Most of the Republicans I know who want an effective Conservative President despise him, and have left the party, or at the very least, are NOT a part of his base and don't approve of him and would desperately take another Republican in his stead.His base doesn't like him he's a president with an (r) next to his name
trust me they would much prefer someone who was even remotely effective at governance
We germans are used to receive a lot of blame but please don't blame us for THATObviously his her Germanic heritage showing through (sorry people who speak German).
Gun violence is a national emergency.
A lack of affordable healthcare is a national emergency.
I guess the GOP play here is that there will never be a democratic president again?
That's not how it works, he has to sign anything passed by congress into law unless they veto-proof the bill. You'd have to trick him like they did in 90's sitcoms by making him think he was signing something else.Quick: someone tell him that that tweet constitutes an actual veto and he doesn't have to go through anymore effort!
That's not how it works, he has to sign anything passed by congress into law unless they veto-proof the bill. You'd have to trick him like they did in 90's sitcoms by making him think he was signing something else.
executive summary
It's already at the courts, he's not going to sign this bill, so they'll continue doing the work they were already doing.
Come on. You know shame left that party a long time ago. You had a guy on TV literally saying "womp, womp" to kids being put in cages last year.Oh man, imagine being one of the delusional idiots who voted for this man baby.
I'd die from the shame tbh.