PS5 games are probably in development right now, this all could just be groundwork in preparation.
I doubt the smaller developers who are being hit by these changes are even going to bother with the PS5, at this point. The PS4 already isn't very popular in Japan, and niche developers like this are usually slow to migrate to a new platform. They will most likely release their games on Switch since it's popular worldwide, and their games aren't so graphically advanced that the Switch would have trouble with them.
People here are saying that Sony is doing this censorship to protect Sony brand from being ruined by sexualization.
Which is pure bullshit considering Sony itself is publishing mobage with big Sony logo where they are pushing sexualization on minor too.
It is as vanilla as a visual novel can get. The main shtick is that the mc is cursed to be a cat unless kissed by a girl, and in this scene she kisses him for the purpose of spending time with her on the beach. Ifyou want to see the general tone you can watch the anime shorts.I mean, unless someone knows what's the context it's kinda hard to argue whether it's in line with the policy or not.
When Sony first revealed the PS4 way back when they showed off a graphic displaying all the devs that had signed on to produce PS4 games. It included all the usual AAA shlock but it also had a bunch of the niche devs like NIS, Idea Factory, D3 Publisher, Gust, Marvelous, Atlus, and so on that are now currently being targeted by their censorship bullshit.
When the PS5 comes around why would anyone who doesnt care about AAA games even consider picking one up?
Strange how that's happening, right?Yeah im not seeing the inconsistency people keep harping on about. I keep seeing creepy features plus modes featuring sexual assault being targeted. What games featuring content like that have gone untouched? Nobody seems capable of answering the question.
I mean, we can't always get what we want.
Consider this: localization is a ton of work and time and the effort needs to financially pay off. If you're not willing to accept the version they out out then you can always do the work of learning Japanese. Then you'll be exposed to a whole new array of games!
Unless, of course, your real concern is that even Japan will move away from this problematic objectifying stuff (particularly of youbg girls). Most of us would call that progress.
That wouldn't happen because Japanese isn't a (mostly) universally spoken language. We aren't taking ifs and buts, we're talking about measures being taken to protect PS4's credibility in the Western market, which largely uses English to conduct business.
People here are saying that Sony is doing this censorship to protect Sony brand from being ruined by sexualization.
Which is pure bullshit considering Sony itself is publishing mobage with big Sony logo where they are pushing sexualization on minor too.
Reading about how this only touches small to middle size publishers and only those under the Playstation brand amd not the mobile games that are under the Sony Music branch :
I would not be suprised that the real reason why the mobage are not touched is not due to differing cultures within the compagny, but because those games makes so much money for them that they don't want anything that could make them lose that much cash flow.
Edit :
Link from here talking about FGO revenue by itself : https://www.resetera.com/threads/so...er-fate-grand-order-releases-worldwide.53558/
Why does titilating content exist in any media? It doesn't need merit.Can anyone argue the merit of this sort of content?
Is anyone really sympathetic to developers that choose this as their main selling point?
Again, there is no issue with tittilating content in and of itself, IMO. It's the kind of titilating content being produced being problematic in its framing of women, especially fetishized young girls.Why does titilating content exist in any media? It doesn't need merit.
Thankfully the vast majority of gamers isn't really interested in this filth.Slippery slope, Sony. Keep this up and you're done. Gamers wont take this lightly.
Mark. My. Words.
Not that I dont agree with you, but how would you do an eechi/cheesecake kind of action game while not making it problematic? Like that seems like a bit of an oxymoron to me.Again, there is no issue with tittilating content in and of itself, IMO. It's the kind of titilating content being produced being problematic in its framing of women, especially fetishized young girls.
If you can't rely on good gameplay to sell your game then I don't feel too sorry for you when you lose your cheap, manipulative gimmick.
Why should anyone care if these kinds of games go away? Muh free speech? I have no doubt that they'll always be there on PC, anyway.Not that I dont agree with you, but how would you do an eechi/cheesecake kind of action game while not making it problematic? Like that seems like a bit of an oxymoron to me.
This obviously not counting the obvious elements like the really young characters and Molestor Simulator mode.
In terms of framing (not the young girls but) of woman, how exactly you want it to be done? Like if it isn't kids or sexual harassment, shouldn't it be ok? Also in terms of gimmicks used to sell games, couldn't over the top violence be considered a gimmick as well? Again I'm not comparing this to ancient dragon lolis or anything, I'm asking in terms of adult woman.Again, there is no issue with tittilating content in and of itself, IMO. It's the kind of titilating content being produced being problematic in its framing of women, especially fetishized young girls.
If you can't rely on good gameplay to sell your game then I don't feel too sorry for you when you lose your cheap, manipulative gimmick.
I mean you said you didnt mind titillating content in games, thats why I asked how would you do it differently without making it problematic?Why should anyone care if these kinds of games go away? Muh free speech? I have no doubt that they'll always be there on PC, anyway.
In terms of framing (not the young girls but) of woman, how exactly you want it to be done? Like if it isn't kids or sexual harassment, shouldn't it be ok? Also in terms of gimmicks used to sell games, couldn't over the top violence be considered a gimmick as well? Again I'm not comparing this to ancient dragon lolis or anything, I'm asking in terms of adult woman.
I mean you said you didnt mind titillating content in games, thats why I asked how would you do it differently without making it problematic?
What else do you need to do make nudity and sex, sex positive? Like again if it's between two consenting adults in the story wouldn't that be alright?I'm sure sex-positive games exist, or at least efforts towards that have been made. If not on console then on PC.
I'm not an expert on the issue but I think it needs to be directed by a deft hand.
As for violence, that was a bigger gimmick in the 90s and 2000s and we definitely saw push-back. But you'll notice today that violence alone won't sell games anymore. They do need good gameplay to succede.
I can't put my finger on it, but Bayonetta works where Senran Kagura doesn't, and if you took away Bayonetta's sexploitation you'd still have an excellent game.
this basically should be itAny censorship should begin and end at the ratings board. That's why they exist.
Why? The ratings board exists to advise consumers. Sony has a closed platform, though. If they don't want their branding associated with that kind of content then that's their prerogative.this basically should be it
while i find the sexualization of young (or young looking) girls and boys gross, and have zero interest in the senran kagura games, i believe it should be the job of rating boards to see of something is ok to release or not. if sony so strongly believes that a certain kind of content shouldn't be allowed, they should take their issue with the boards.
But what brand is the question. Is it the PlayStation brand or Sony as a whole? As some people have mentioned, Sony music has mobile games that literally rely on underage characters in skimpy outfits to make money.Why? The ratings board exists to advise consumers. Sony has a closed platform, though. If they don't want their branding associated with that kind of content then that's their prerogative.
Hope all this does is push more niche japanese developers towards Switch/Steam. Specially steam, for my own benefit.
This, just so much this. I've seen people defend Sony's decision to get Japanese devs to do documents in English, but why should it be accepted? This is a multi national company and you're telling me they can't afford to open one in Japan to deal with that stuff?I am going to wait for Catherine to see if the censor it or not. Hoping they don't.
Sony needs to do the following:
-Release the rules.
-Open a Japanese office so Japanese Devs can follow the rules much easier.
As long as they keep the weird shit away like molesting young girls and the sexualization of minors then I support them on this. We will see how it goes with Catherine.
Guess it's PlayStation, then.But what brand is the question. Is it the PlayStation brand or Sony as a whole? As some people have mentioned, Sony music has mobile games that literally rely on underage characters in skimpy outfits to make money.
I just had an idea!
Is this new rule retroactive? Because dont these games already exist on sony's platforms? I seem to remember this titty girl senran game had two releases on vita and ps4? How does this affect the distribution of those games?
Hmmmm!!??
It still seems pretty dumb though as most people aren't going to know the difference between Sony music and PlayStation. Guess we got to wait and sees what happens, but I wouldn't be surprised if certain groups get outraged with the content in their mobile stuff and try to paint the company as a whole as terrible (and they probably aren't going to do much about it cause apparently those mobile games bring in big money for them).Guess it's PlayStation, then.
Consider the fact that the Vita has a well-known reputation/stigma of being a pervert machine.
I'm not condoning hypocrisy but that doesn't change the point I'm making.
Well then... yea. That is kinda silly.
We live in the online age. Give it some time, it'll be patched out soon.Well then... yea. That is kinda silly.
If you're gonna go scorched Earth, why not go all the way scorched Earth? You can't just leave half of the Earth scorched. That's not how this works!
Again I must ask, are these groping minigames that important to you? If so, why?
This thread Is hella disturbing with the amount of users that seemingly want such content in their games.
You are missing the forest for the trees.Again I must ask, are these groping minigames that important to you? If so, why?
This thread Is hella disturbing with the amount of users that seemingly want such content in their games.
To be honest, it should be pretty easy to tell. In the previous trailers, Rin has a scene with a partial butt shot. If that's still in the game, I can't imagine there was anything else that needed to be edited out.I am going to wait for Catherine to see if the censor it or not. Hoping they don't.
the boards have clear guidelines and give clear explanations when they rate games, sony doesn't.Why? The ratings board exists to advise consumers. Sony has a closed platform, though. If they don't want their branding associated with that kind of content then that's their prerogative.
You are missing the forest for the trees.
This is not about "those mini games".
Hell I am not a fan of this series.
But if I buy something, I want the original complete vision for it for better or worse.
Then I can decide if something offends me or not.
Nobody is forced to buy or experience any of these games or material.
It is a conscious choice to go buy something.
What is hella disturbing is people do not want to put on their grown up pants and want other people to decide what they can see, watch, or listen to.
Hopefully.To be honest, it should be pretty easy to tell. In the previous trailers, Rin has a scene with a partial butt shot. If that's still in the game, I can't imagine there was anything else that needed to be edited out.