Are they even on the show anymore? Every time my kid watches it's Elmo and Abby nonstop. Furthermore, Sesame Street is one of the most inclusive shows on TV. They have touched on same sex couples several times that I have seen.
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Sesame Workshop: Bert and Ernie "remain puppets, and do not have a sexual orientation."
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There's a strange misconception in this thread that relationships = sex.
I dunno what you all look for out of a relationship, but I also look for someone to hang out with, in a romantic fashion. If only a relationship could be depicted in media for children without the characters fucking...
Oh wait, that's most children's media. Disney, Dreamworks, whatever, there are many examples of relationships just culminating in kisses, or even just hand holding.
If you REALLY need some more facts for your immersion in a puppet based world to be sustained, it's possible for people in real life to be asexual, but still want romantic relationships.
I dunno what you all look for out of a relationship, but I also look for someone to hang out with, in a romantic fashion. If only a relationship could be depicted in media for children without the characters fucking...
Oh wait, that's most children's media. Disney, Dreamworks, whatever, there are many examples of relationships just culminating in kisses, or even just hand holding.
If you REALLY need some more facts for your immersion in a puppet based world to be sustained, it's possible for people in real life to be asexual, but still want romantic relationships.
Some of the replies to their tweet are full on crazy. You shipped some felt puppets, what are you angry about?
As a gay man, I echo this. Not every pair of dudes who have a bond is gay.
Similarly, if characters are gay, they need to be portrayed as such outright. Not the "oh yeah this character is totally gay even though the movie/show/book makes absolutely no suggestion of this" that's going around media right now.
We have already been shown that there are straight couples.... but as always gay couples becomes sexualization as if it's something perverse
This.
Heteronormative culture is fucking toxic. "WHO'S GAY?? WHAT???"
People complaining about fans creating their own canon can fuck right off. LGBT characters are so few and far between, how dare fans speculate and become invested in relationships between characters they enjoy. Maybe if there was more representation people wouldn't feel the need to write ambiguous characters as gay or trans.
I'm just glad they felt the need to explicitly deny the possibility that two beloved characters are gay, so queer kids don't start getting any ideas.
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I think OP really needs to be updated because this entire conversation isn't really about fans. It's not "fans" creating their own canon. This all started because a person who wrote sesame street came out and said he patterned Bert and Ernie after his own gay marriage, and in his mind when he wrote them, they were always gay. This was the 1970's, and obviously he couldn't call them outright gay on children's television back then, which is why they officially weren't called gay on the show, but as the dude writing him, he saw them as gay.
Then the PR account for the entity who owns the characters came out and said no, everybody on sesame street is asexual.
A lot of people posting ITT about "people shipping puppets" or whatever are missing the context of this entire conversation. This really isn't about fans, honestly. It's a creator of the show arguing with the rights owner of the show. Really, a step above "fan" arguments.
"why do people care about sexuality" is a pretty irrelevant question when people demonstratively do. Why they do is immaterial, society evidently deeply cares about this stuff.
Then the PR account for the entity who owns the characters came out and said no, everybody on sesame street is asexual.
A lot of people posting ITT about "people shipping puppets" or whatever are missing the context of this entire conversation. This really isn't about fans, honestly. It's a creator of the show arguing with the rights owner of the show. Really, a step above "fan" arguments.
"why do people care about sexuality" is a pretty irrelevant question when people demonstratively do. Why they do is immaterial, society evidently deeply cares about this stuff.
The words of a well meaning person steeped in straight privilege.
Of course sexuality isn't such a big deal or a defining thing when you belong to the group that's widely considered normal and default.
It's like saying "What's the big deal about race?" when you're a hot white man.
Lol
I love when gayness comes up many people suddenly become deep humanistic philosophers.
And naturally, as with all things Twitter, he's being harrassed over it
Fuck that, they're gay to me and there's nothing anyone can say to make me think otherwise. They're gay and they're great at it too.
"They're not, of course."
Oof. That one line has... a lot you can potentially take from it.
If gayness and straightness really don't matter, then why deny it so thoroughly?
This is a little absurd, considering we have more and more LGBTQ characters and yearly accomplishments regarding representation. This isn't exactly the handsmaids tale we are living in.
It's pretty obvious Sesame Street doesn't want any backlash on having them being gay characters and their statement is absurd given they have sexual preference as a core plot for other characters, the autistic muppet and HIV positive muppet. So shame on them for cowering under LGBTQ representation. But lets be real, their statement is news because they are shying away from their homosexuality, because it is seen as regressive and not in line with where the industry is moving. If they said "yeah they are gay" the majority of us would be saying "duh, well that's not a surprise".
So how do you explain that sex scene between two muppets in Happy Time Murder?
My post was more a response to shitty posters complaining about Overwatch shipping or about how this is "vilifying straight male relationships." These people are full of shit.
No I got you, it's just that yours was the last post I'd seen on the page that talked about fan level interactions, sorry for using it as a jumping off point.
Why is what horrific? The depiction of the two as gay is not. I was referring to the outrage with that part. As to what the internet has done to my beloved Ernie and his pal Bert? I seen some things, man!
But as with all things in life, you gotta put down the duckie if you want to play the saxophone.
So god damn sick of reading/hearing this. It's just an excuse to shut down discussion surrounding sexuality. Non-hetero sexualities get brought up at a fraction of the frequency that heterosexuality is featured/references/confirmed and suddenly people care about defining people without referencing sexuality.
Fuck. Offfffff. You ever see someone get all soap boxy over circumventing sexuality when a character/icon is straight?
Because of course they're not gay. Pssh! Ffft! Hphhh! Preposterous.
LMAO, maybe I can take back the "well meaning" part. He's being awfully obtuse.
I think he just doesn't have any ability or inclination to understand.
Obviously, the world view is still very much that being gay is a sexual orientation, while being straight is just normal.
The response is about as backward as it gets. Fucking awful, and fucking typical.
"THEY'RE TOTALLY NOT GAY, but really why does it matter if they were gay or they weren't, which to be clear they are not"
But remember it doesn't matter.
See fine clarify but you can't say it doesn't matter and then very much act like it really really really matters.
Not really clear who the parents are here. Is this a polyamorous family?
Yeah maybe. Privilege means not having to give serious thought to issues that deeply affect people different than yourself.
Can't just be platonic, nah..
Everything has to be shipped.
Everything has to be shipped.
Exactly.
Notice when someone says I read them as brothers
There's no... they're not brothers, it is important to be honest, they are not brothers...
There's no... they're not brothers, it is important to be honest, they are not brothers...
As a straight person, I think my kind have suffered enough and deserve basic respect. It's really hard being straight with history looking at us like we are ignorant, sexist and non understanding. I rebuke those notions and stereotypes.
Straight Lives Matter too, but you don't see us getting a month.
EDIT: I forgot my /s, lol.
Straight Lives Matter too, but you don't see us getting a month.
EDIT: I forgot my /s, lol.
