Yet we can look at all the other serious topics involving other topics, and they easily hit 10-12 pages.
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Sexual Assault of Men as Comedy (Pop Culture Detective Video Essay)
- Thread starter EdibleKnife
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Neither were funny, both were plays of power and control. The dick chopping was made fun of with prop comedy (sausage waving), there would be even more of an uproar if Sansas scene was followed by clams being cracked open in a suggestive manner.
For True Detective new season, actually, the show acknowledge it and the other cop makes fun of Mahershala Ali's character for using that thing a little too much, so in that particular case this is actually used to characterize a negative aspect of the character i think.
Also the vid forgot about FFVII!
How do you figure that? If people react badly to a joke then they have a right to voice that distaste. There was no "higher meaning" to that "comedy", no satire, no point other than the "I said things that upset people and it's funny because you aren't supposed to say it". He's no George Carlin(not talking about humor but of there being a point to the vulgarity past shock value).
Don't get me wrong, when it comes to James Gunn, I do realize that his case was specifically alt-right smear campaign, but the whole "don't judge offensive comedians otherwise it's censorship" is a bullshit tactic used to excuse low quality comedians and spineless assholes. Shock humor stopped being funny when we were 12, and nowadays is just an excuse.
And it isn't censorship when you put out content(be it a movie, a game, or a joke in a tweet) and the audience reacts negatively to it. You have a right to say whatever you like in public. And we as the public have the right to respond positively or negatively in kind.
There are still 12 year olds. Just because your tastes have matured doesn't mean there isn't a market for that sort of thing. I'd also argue on some level that kind of humour can be a subversive vessel for truth-to-power... but absolutely not in the case those Gunn tweets.
Yes, totally agree.
He was in his 30s when he made those "jokes". And just because it's "something 12 year olds do" doesn't mean it's something that be accepted or condoned. That's basically the age when those bad habits get cemented.
He was in his 30's making Troma movies. Slightly different circumstances as they're all about pushing the boundaries of taste. Just hypothesizing where that mindset might come from. I think the tweets were horrid, but I can give him the benefit of the doubt.
People weren't laughing at it but there was definitely a strong indifference to Theon having his genitals cut off that you would quite honestly never see if the equiviliant happened with a woman. Somehow male sexual assault and mutiliation (how many times have we heard jokes or off-hand remarks about a scorned woman chopping off her boyfriend or husband's penis?) have become far too accepted.
No, you can totally use trending engagement on topics to get a sense of how important they are to the group. It doesn't mean the group doesn't agree with the view. But it can indicate that the topic is t a priority.
Seems interesting, I'll watch this later.
Maybe you should watch Super.
Until more men expect a change in thought and ask better of how they and other men act its going to remain a thought that a "real man" can't truly be sexually violated/harassed (he has to enjoy it/i wish my teacher wanted to have sex with me/lucky guy/he had it coming).
Its an easy grab for laughs because masculinity is made cheap by toxic behavior and stereotypes about what it means to be a man. it also dosent help on the other side of thought that men have often been the abuser, so in turn when they are the abused its somehow entertaining or isnt serious. which just reinforces the thinking that if you are an abused male its because your weak/wrong.
Its an easy grab for laughs because masculinity is made cheap by toxic behavior and stereotypes about what it means to be a man. it also dosent help on the other side of thought that men have often been the abuser, so in turn when they are the abused its somehow entertaining or isnt serious. which just reinforces the thinking that if you are an abused male its because your weak/wrong.
It doesn't help that a lot of sexual assault and rape laws are written specifically for women and not for blanket victims of the crime. It would be so easy to make laws to protect everyone but to go out of your way to exclude men just doesn't make sense.
Most of my favorite comedies as a teenager play like an episode of SVU these days.
It's certainly a problem I think. Male aimed rape jokes are so extremely common people are just used to them, I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't the origin of so many people mocking women who come forward with their experiences. It's needs to be done away with if we want progress for both men and women. Excellent video.