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SFV pro player Gllty accused of sexual assault
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dot eSports?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMxgGskkec4
Yeah, I remembered Aris did this after following his stream. I looked up the situation and what unfolded after, and found this as well. Personally, I think he's changed for sure. There's a huge, huge difference in his stream behavior from years ago (when he streamed Tekken Tag Tournament 2) and now.
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Man, that sucks. I kinda thought he was less bigoted than that since he was jabbing at Fergus (while Fergus was in chat laughing it up along with him) about the handshake mix-up.
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Oftentimes victims of abuse pay that abuse forward instead of processing it in a healthy way. in her tweets gllty said she's been a victim in the past, so maybe that's at play here. That's pure speculation, mind you. But yeah in a scene that's like 99% men it's no surprise that most predators are men (and men are of course statistically more likely to be sex pests).
You do not want to pursue this line of questioning or train of thought. what the fuck man
That's true, I think there will be a larger move to E-sports the scene up though once actual money is involved.
I know a ton of FGC forgave him for the SFxT stuff but eveytime I'd hear him since it was always borderline. Doesn't surprise me he's garbage. I'm glad you're out there being you, 16 Bit. You're the best part of Kombat Kast.
Also crazy that Chris Bahn is Bahn from TNL. That was my first forum.
Saying "Don't defend my actions, I confess to doing all of this and acknowledge they are shitty" to fans who might want to come to her defense (as fans are prone to do) and "I'm gonna exit the scene" are about as good a response as you can hope for for a public outing that finally seems to be getting some traction, assuming she goes through with it all. She might've been doing it for a long time but now that it seems to be blowing up, this is about as decent a response as we can expect from a shitty situation like this. She doesn't shift the blame, doesn't try to downplay what she has done, doesn't go all "sorry if you were offended" or "I was just messing around, Y U all so serious?"
Sorry you had to go through this. Twitch chats in general are absolutely unbearable so when they're encouraged by big streamers it's really sad.
Yeah it shouldnt surprise anyone that Aris is a bigoted piece of shit. He filters himself relatively better than in the past but his comments are still always tinged with a little more "something" and his community is indicative of that.
Unfortunately most of them will hide behind the "its just a joke" tagline because theyre simply to smooth brained or callous to understand how those "jokes" affect others.
Unfortunately most of them will hide behind the "its just a joke" tagline because theyre simply to smooth brained or callous to understand how those "jokes" affect others.
I guess that JusDoIt is referring to the Chris T and brenttiscool Twitter stuff.
I saw it on this site earlier this week.
God that would suck. The grassroots feel of the FGC is why I love it so much.
Riot will probably create their own league for their game and won't do shit with the FGC. They want full control of everything.
I think the reasoning is probably that the predatory behaviour is harming the players and the integrity of the tournament in question as it's where the predators operate, whereas the abusers operate outside the confines of the tournament. At least that's how it sort of makes sense? I am all for banning domestic abusers but I have an honest question here - where do you draw the line between a bannable offense and something that is not grounds for a ban?
Thanks. So the term to search for was "old man fgc chat".
Here are some (all?) of the screencaps in question. Click through for more caps:
Context for above thread's chat caps:
As a bonus ran into some related (in that it's misogynistic, and racist) 2017 asshattery from Chris G as well:
• Assaulting Giefkid on camera
• Scalping Daigo's book by buying several copies, asking him to sign them, and then selling them for $1000 each
• Asking for $1000 to go on a "date" as a donation bonus (which was, obviously, never achieved)
• Claimed to "live" in Japan but it was actually just an extended AirBnB stay
The whole FGC needs a big reboot. Put and keep Arslan Ash in the spotlight. He's the hero we need.
• Scalping Daigo's book by buying several copies, asking him to sign them, and then selling them for $1000 each
• Asking for $1000 to go on a "date" as a donation bonus (which was, obviously, never achieved)
• Claimed to "live" in Japan but it was actually just an extended AirBnB stay
The whole FGC needs a big reboot. Put and keep Arslan Ash in the spotlight. He's the hero we need.
I legit was unaware but appreciate folks following up.
Sadly I know more than a few people who act like this.
Why people getting their brain stems all caught up just because someone's asking what slang means? Wouldn't have caught what that means even if I did look it up, thanks.
Seeking legal counsel is not an admission of guilt, that's literally the first thing you get told lmao
Have you spoken with him about it since then? I don't mean to push the responsibility onto you but it might be worthwhile.
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Just wanted to make it clear that it shouldn't be on you to seek an apology from someone who made you feel that way.
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I don't follow this scene at all but every now and then controversies similar to this seem to sprout up and it's shameful to see people defending or dismissing things that are either outright admitted, recorded on camera, or reported by multiple accounts.
None of the things these players have been accused of are defensible in any form.
To me, gllty's apology seems genuine enough and I hope she's able to better herself from this moment onward, but just like she said and I paraphrase: if you are defending her (or any of the other people who acted in a similar, or worse, manner) you should question yourself as to why.
None of the things these players have been accused of are defensible in any form.
To me, gllty's apology seems genuine enough and I hope she's able to better herself from this moment onward, but just like she said and I paraphrase: if you are defending her (or any of the other people who acted in a similar, or worse, manner) you should question yourself as to why.
I had a terrible feeling that side of him was creeping back in. I'm sorry this happened to you.
This reminded me that time he was commentating with Kayo Satoh .... damn that was top 10 awkward moments i ever saw
It's impossible to defend Aris' constant need to joke about Grindr, people in chat being gay or having two dads as parents. He never takes it further than that, but the prevalence of these jokes is reason enough to be disappointed. I also wish someone told him that 'oriental' isn't a word anyone should be using anymore.
The dark side of gaming.
The dark side of humanity.
I hope the victims can find the strength to continue to live on peacefully and the perpetrators to stop their shit and learn from their mistakes immensely.
Personally I have done minor stupid shit when tipsy in the club and only next few days have I heard what kind of impact that can have.
So I apologise to all the women whose booty I touched or when I have been too handsy.
Some women don't mind the attention, some hate it and some don't like it at all but are afraid to speak up. So I am sorry! ❤️
The dark side of humanity.
I hope the victims can find the strength to continue to live on peacefully and the perpetrators to stop their shit and learn from their mistakes immensely.
Personally I have done minor stupid shit when tipsy in the club and only next few days have I heard what kind of impact that can have.
So I apologise to all the women whose booty I touched or when I have been too handsy.
Some women don't mind the attention, some hate it and some don't like it at all but are afraid to speak up. So I am sorry! ❤️
It's cool that you want to apologize and all, but it's highly unlikely the women you got too handsy with and touched inappropriately are going to be browsing this forum or even know who you are. It would mean more if you apologized to the actual people you wronged, not just a broad apology to strangers on Era.
Again, I still don't understand why Chris got off scott free for this. Literally everyone in the FGC just overlooked it.
Like I said earlier before his shooters piled on me. First he doubled down and only buckled because of the pressure. His stream kinda blew up so he's gotta keep a facade but I'm definitely not giving dude the benefit of the doubt.
lol like I haven't done that as well? Well I have. I am just apologizing in the general sense and also telling anyone who might be interested to hear that I was completely oblivious of the fact my behaviour was inappropiate. I was ignorant and young(er).
I ain't doing this for brownie points. I'm sitting here trying to be positive for a change and someone has to be negative nancy. 👍🏼
It's from CrackPr0n's Twitter. Part of it was shared in this thread already:
Nobody is defending Gllty, nor is it likely that they will. Gllty has long been known for her bad behaviour in the FGC. She also has a habit of apologising and then immediately doubling down on the same behaviour.
Yeah, I saw some of that live as it happened. Any time anyone does or says something in an even remotely awkward way, he definitely goes way too hard. Sometimes people are cool with it and go along with the joke, like the Fergus handshake thing.
The jabs at you were definitely more aggressive though. That whole "bodying each other in bed" thing became a dumb chat meme for a while.
Shit was wack as fuck and not cool.
They will likely shuffle the to the next runner up, which would be Emezie.
Unfortunately it's impossible to tell if someone who knows how to make a good apology is actually remorseful or just a sociopath a few steps ahead of the others
People were defending her on twitter, which is why she said that
Does he have time to do that between crotch punching animations?
Human beings with power, take advantage of those without. This is becoming more and more apparent from every facet of society especially 'celebrities.'
Hell, there's people still defending her in the stlfgc. Yeah, she definitely has a base that still supports her despite admitting what she did.
Yeah, I've noticed he still makes gross homophobic jokes and always tries to push the limits of what he can get away with, which I've never been comfortable with.
Do I think Aris has probably made some self-improvement since 2013? Yeah, I can concede to that. Do I think he still gets away with some really shitty jokes that people handwave away because people love him? Absolutely.
I was in Japan in May of this year, and randomly while walking around Shibuya I saw Gllty. I was going to stop her and say hi just from knowing her from watching Street Fighter tournaments but I didn't bother. Now I'm glad I didn't.
I kind of wonder how he felt when he found out I actually am queer. I haven't seen any of his content since then, so IDK if he toned it down, went in harder, or what. I'd like to think he realized it was messed up and stopped?
Internet culture is just brutal in the FGC, and I hate the take that "it's not the real FGC". I used to enjoy going to FGC spaces and seeing what people are saying about the game and I basically just can't anymore. The risk I'm going to feel like crap at what I read is too high.