Shhh...game reviews aren’t supposed to use a cultural lens or criticize story beyond basic plot
Well, according to the Waypoint review:
I would be happy if TR would have good characters.Look, lets be honest here. There is not a single Tomb Raider game with a good story. The closest is Angel of Darkness. I suppose second to that would be The Last Revelation.
The positive of the PS1 games compared to the games from Legend onwards in terms of story is simply that the PS1 games didn't have any kind of focus on it. In the original TR games you would often go hours in between cutscenes.
Whoops, thought you'd typed 6 points not 0.6. Beg your pardon. Taking just those three reviews from each, one has an average of 92, the other 85. I'd have assumed they'd have had a bigger impact on the review aggregate.
WHAT?! You literally called me "brah" just a few posts ago.There is no Uncharted bias unless you think it carries over to reviews and the rest of the console install base as Uncharted sell and review better than TR. I'll stop being passive aggressive as soon as you stop being condescending and calling me "sis". You're right about one thing though, I don't engage with the TR community if I can help it. Next time don't reply and back up people claiming bias in the press, it's pathetic.
Calling you "sis" is condescending but "brah" is considered not? Hmm...You are aware these reviews are by professional reviews and not sour platform warriors brah? But please don't let me interfere with your conspiracy crusade, I'm sure it would be a new metacritic record if only these petty reviews didn't hate TR because of prior timed exclusivity.
I would totally agree with you except I complained a lot about TW3 on the old forum and with regards to God Of War, I didn't come across videos similar to the ones posted on here. If I did, I would have complained....CD Projekt Red is seen as one of the best developers out there, and their most praised game had an entire area of the game, where part of the main quest takes place, become borderline unplayable due to awful framerate issues that took not just a day one patch to fix, but quite a few patches after that. God of War, easily this year's most praised game, had a day one patch that literally changed things like difficulty balance and interface.
Software, thankfully, is fluid. The devs' intended vision can be brought to reality after it's gone gold, which otherwise would not happen in the past. The people who don't have an internet connection to download the patch will unfortunately play a slightly jankier game, but we're not talking about bugs that bar progression, causes frustration or constant crashes. The game is there and it's feature complete.
It's been three games and this reboot has yet to show Lara exhibiting any real passion or enjoyment for what she does - it all comes across as a duty she's obligated to fulfil. Instead of focusing on the thrill of discovery and the wonder of far-flung forgotten corners of the world, this series was all about a contrived revenge story that no-one asked for. Shadow of the Tomb Raider's big problem, much like the two previous games, is that there's far too much darkness and not enough levity to relieve the tension and allow us to actually enjoy these characters or get to know them beyond their current predicament. What food does Lara like? What music does she listen to? How much could she absolutely clean up if she decided to chill out, open an Instagram account and be #blessed? I'm only half joking with the last one, but you get my point. Lara is athletic, she's smart, and she's unwaveringly heroic, but if she acted more like an actual human being and less like the Terminator with a Rosetta Stone plugin, the series would be much better for it.
Conspiracy theories? I guess I should repeat myself for the billionth time:
You didn't for a second wonder why I called you brah after you addressed me as sis, was that to hard to figure out. I though I was being pretty obvious, hell I even spelled it the most obnoxious way possible.WHAT?! You literally called me "brah" just a few posts ago.
Calling you "sis" is condescending but "brah" is considered not? Hmm...
Also, I would like to kindly ask you to not tell me what to do "next time" for something I apologized for; that was never my point. If you think it's "pathetic", then go ahead and think it; it's obvious that we're in disagreement and we'll never see eye-to-eye regarding this, so let's drop it before it gets too problematic (even though it kinda already did, "brah").
Glad the mods dealt with this swiftly. What a shitpost.
Higher standards on PS4.
The outrageous and irrational hate is stemming from three main outlets lol: the UC bias, the stigma from old fans towards reboot and finally, some spider-man fans that were hurt about that "we are not worried about spider-man" quote from Shadow's marketing team. There's also a good chance some people are still butthurt to this day about the Rise exclusivity deal.
So you're basically saying that the Telegraph, The Guardian, Digital Spy and the other outlets that gave Tomb Raider a rating between 4/10 and 6/10 are also fanboys or how do these scores come about?The outrageous and irrational hate is stemming from three main outlets lol: the UC bias, the stigma from old fans towards reboot and finally, some spider-man fans that were hurt about that "we are not worried about spider-man" quote from Shadow's marketing team. There's also a good chance some people are still butthurt to this day about the Rise exclusivity deal.
But you shouldn't take just those three vs three reviews, there are 35 other reviews to consider.
Yep same here, reviews are good but il wait for the xmas price cut heh. Back to Spidey. Go web go!
This has become tiring and disrespectful at this point.
Far from it, actually:
This is one of those things that has a huuuuge impact on how much/little I appreciate sidestory/setting content.
The reviews themselves aren't bad. There's a lot of talk about aging animations/jump machanics, some issues with the platforming that have never been fixed, and a continuation of Lara's odd personality or lack there of. The rest of the game seems like a big improvement for actual tomb raiding and reviewers are liking the new setting. Larger hubs, improvements to puzzles.
No I'm not, although I can see how it could be interpreted that way. I will go ahead and edit my post; you can see my explanations in the posts after. I was more talking about the fans and their reception. I respect the few negative reviews (the ones I read so far at least) just as much as the many more positive ones.So you're basically saying that the Telegraph, The Guardian, Digital Spy and the other outlets that gave Tomb Raider a rating between 4/10 and 6/10 are also fanboys or how do these scores come about?
Btw the PS4 version of Rise of the Tomb Raider has a metascore of 88. Many PlayStation centric sites including Playstation Official Magazine Australia, Playstation Official Magazine UK, PSX-Sense.nl and Playstation Universe rated the game with 9/10. I don't see any outrageous and irrational hate towards Tomb Raider. Maybe there's just more to criticize in Shadow? I don't understand why you would want to make this a Console War thing.
Agreed. Unlike the vast majority of gaming outlets, Waypoint offers a unique and necessary perspective to balance out the white male dominance in the industry. To scoff at that and write it off is disappointing and merely perpetuates and enforces white male privilege.
EXACTLY. It's SO transparent. And when I mention it, I get one word responses with no substance to them or get accused of being a "conspiracy theorist" lmfao. It's so tired.
:')Care of a battered hand-me-down disc, Tomb Raider 2 is one of the very first games I remember playing that had something resembling character. Lara Croft was an unstoppable force, smirking in the face of danger and racing forward to the next challenge. She was beautiful and curvaceous, yes, and intelligent too. She was also a millionaire who could afford home gyms and butlers and walk-in freezers - she didn't need the money or the infamy that all these dusty old relics provided. That's why I loved her; she did it all and risked everything just for the thrill of the hunt, and had a damn good time while she did it.
But I'd give a ToD of 2000 or something :VThat Lara was dead and buried in her tiny 90s sunglasses with 2013's Tomb Raider reboot, which cast Croft as a frightened and shaken ingenue thrust into horrific circumstances on the island of Yamatai, where she was forced to do whatever she could to survive. This chain of events supposedly started her down the path to becoming an iconic adventurer, but ever since that outing, I've been waiting for her to regain that thrill-seeking bravado that I fell in love with, which coincidentally happened to be the reason she's willing to put herself in any of these ridiculous life-threatening situations in the first place. After playing this, the third of the prequel trilogy and the first from Eidos Montreal, I'm sadly still waiting.
I think folks are congregating here because (i) we love negativity, (ii) proximity to other titles (Spider-Man/RDR2), (iii) the scores are divisive with some...fantastical hyperbole, and (iv) many are invested in Lara and while many like the "new" Lara, many do not.