Shadowbringers is better than your favorite FF

King_Moc

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's up there. I finished it last week and was very impressed how it managed to add shades of grey to.a plot that had been extremely black and white up to that point. Absolutely phenomenal villain too. It's unusual for a FF to have a villain whose reasons for being the way they are are so well fleshed out. And that last dungeon that hammers that point home...wow.
 

Potterson

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Oct 28, 2017
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I loved the previous expansion. Story wise it was amazing.

But gameplay wise? I just can't commit myself to play MMO again. That was almost painful experience for me.
 

Kalmakov

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Sep 10, 2019
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...I really need to play this game huh.

I picked up the demo about two years on PS4 and dropped it hard because MMO stuff in general just overwhelms me. I went through the tutorials and still had no idea what did what. I've been wanting to try it but the amount of info to take in still dissuades me.
 

PlanetSmasher

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Oct 25, 2017
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Eh. This is hyperbolic. Even if Shadowbringers is good, its soundtrack isn't nearly as evocative or as emotionally engaging as VI's.

Also it doesn't have an opera house battle. C'mon, YoshiP.
 

WetWaffle

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm at the very beginning of heavensward, it took me 2 years to fully complete original xiv, hopefully shadowbringers will be worth it.
 

antitrop

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Oct 25, 2017
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Colorado Springs, CO
Yeah people keep saying this and I just don't believe them.
I wouldn't have believed myself before I played it, either. I get it.

But it's almost like the developers made it their mission to deliver satisfying payoffs in spades to make up for the slow beginning, both in narrative and gameplay.

Like yeah, Level 30 Black Mage is just casting Fire over and over again until you run out of MP and use Blizzard, wait a few seconds, and go back into Fire, but Level 80 Black Mage has so much more going on and I love it. I found the job progression immensely satisfying for the classes I've leveled up to cap with so far (Black Mage, White Mage, Scholar/Summoner).
 

Flipyap

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Oct 25, 2017
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I kinda envy all y'all's cultish devotion to this expansion, but it's kinda hard to believe when the base game is an actual storytelling atrocity.
It would a miracle to turn the writing in that game into something that's worth enduring, especially after dozens of hours of the worst kind of gibberish exposition dumps.
 

Cyclonesweep

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Oct 29, 2017
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I keep hearing that the base game is a boring slow slog to get thru.

Like honestly, how long do you have to play to get to the good content? Anything more than 40 hours is simply not worth it
 

TheMrPliskin

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Oct 26, 2017
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I hear for new players the experience to getting to max level is atrocious, how true is that?
You'll level by progressing through the main story quest, which is the games main selling point. It's extremely rare that you have to grind for XP to progress in the story.

The main issue is that some people find the story of the base game to be a slog but that's mainly due to the quest design and the fact that the story takes a long time to kick into gear. They're also addressing this next summer.
...I really need to play this game huh.

I picked up the demo about two years on PS4 and dropped it hard because MMO stuff in general just overwhelms me. I went through the tutorials and still had no idea what did what. I've been wanting to try it but the amount of info to take in still dissuades me.
I felt the same way when I first started. I'd say that as long as you make sure to follow the main story quests and the quests for your class you should be okay. The game is pretty good about providing tutorials for any necessary information and if you do still struggle to understand anything the games community is very helpful and welcoming to new players.

If you're genuinely interested I'd advise sticking with it throughout the free trial period at least. By the end of that period you should be able to get your head wrapped around pretty much everything you'd need to know, without needing to worry about paying for a subscription or whatever.
 

DarknessTear

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Oct 25, 2017
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I kinda envy all y'all's cultish devotion to this expansion, but it's kinda hard to believe when the base game is an actual storytelling atrocity.
It would a miracle to turn the writing in that game into something that's worth enduring, especially after dozens of hours of the worst kind of gibberish exposition dumps.
All you have to do is get to Heavensward to find out.
 

Hero

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's slow in the beginning but they are gonna update the game soon-ish to be less so
You'll level by progressing through the main story quest, which is the games main selling point. It's extremely rare that you have to grind for XP to progress in the story.

The main issue is that some people find the story of the base game to be a slog but that's mainly due to the quest design and the fact that the story takes a long time to kick into gear. They're also addressing this next summer.

I felt the same way when I first started. I'd say that as long as you make sure to follow the main story quests and the quests for your class you should be okay. The game is pretty good about providing tutorials for any necessary information and if you do still struggle to understand anything the games community is very helpful and welcoming to new players.

If you're genuinely interested I'd advise sticking with it throughout the free trial period at least. By the end of that period you should be able to get your head wrapped around pretty much everything you'd need to know, without needing to worry about paying for a subscription or whatever.
Thanks! I really want to play it but my free time and thus gaming time is super limited so an MMO is a super hard sell for me. I guess I'm better off waiting until next year.
 

chrominance

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Oct 25, 2017
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FF13: don't worry it gets good after 20 hours
FF14: don't worry it gets good after 1xx hours

But seriously, I keep hearing about Shadowbringers and would be down, just as soon as I figure out the least painful way to get to that content. I actually don't know how long it would take to get to the interesting stuff in FF14 but that whole "A Realm Reborn isn't very good or fun" bit puts me off.
 

Giudecca

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Oct 27, 2017
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You'll level by progressing through the main story quest, which is the games main selling point. It's extremely rare that you have to grind for XP to progress in the story.
The main issue is that some people find the story of the base game to be a slog but that's mainly due to the quest design and the fact that the story takes a long time to kick into gear. They're also addressing this next summer.
Are they trimming down the whole thing, or just the 2.1-2.5 content? Because the whole thing needs a rework. If I ever have to go to the Waking Sands again it will be too soon.
 

gozu

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Oct 27, 2017
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America
Question:

Can I play FFXIV with a gamepad the way I did for FFXI and not suck? I know I'd have to use the keyboard sometimes but I do NOT want to use a mouse playing it.
 

Kokoro

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Jan 23, 2019
137
France
With all the good talk about Shadowbringer I really can't wait to play it! I'm currently at the endgame of Heavensward with my friends (we do almost all the content), so it may be a while before I play it. But I'm looking forward to see if it is that good.