- Ford's still really really really boring
- I thought Ian was gonna come up dead... but he's just gonna start the next season in jail/courts and plead insanity or something? whatever
- Lip is now going to be the guardian of a 12 year old girl? sure. whatever
- i'm glad Carl got away. that's gotta be the last we see of Cassidy, right?
- I like new Liam. but totally missed the point of the sleepwalking
Ian's plot these last few episodes is fucking terrible and not really fitting his character, but they're just gonna drop the "he's off his meds" as usual at the start of S9 to counter that.
Finally caught up. As I expected this season was inane and featured more bizarre character choices. Frank's plotline this season is the perfect example of why this show has declined in quality. Feels like the writers just try and write funny moments and situations without any regards to actual character development. Oh well.
I stopped a little into season 7 because it seemed like they were just making bad/inconsistent choices when writing all the characters and the whole Fiona cycle was getting annoying "I'm rough and tough, I find an opportunity/man despite my poor choices, maybe I can improve/show vulnerability?, I ruin everything!".
Does season 8 do any better at this stuff?
I stopped a little into season 7 because it seemed like they were just making bad/inconsistent choices when writing all the characters and the whole Fiona cycle was getting annoying "I'm rough and tough, I find an opportunity/man despite my poor choices, maybe I can improve/show vulnerability?, I ruin everything!".
Does season 8 do any better at this stuff?
Makes sense, but unless they kill her off it will seem really out-of-character for her not to have any contact with her siblings. Maybe give her a recurring role? Even then that sounds weird with how she phrased that post. Or she jumped the gun and it's the last season for Shameless, but it seems unlikely with "there are still Ghallager stories to be told."Looks like it's gonna be last season for Fiona
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They should just end it then. It's up to the 9th, right?Looks like it's gonna be last season for Fiona
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I suppose they could continue with the show without her but I think it would be difficult, Fiona was really is the heart of the show.
Ugh, they've made everyone self righteous assholes toward Fiona. Doesn't she own the house? Why are they telling her to get out.
In any case, Lip being mad at Fiona for fucking shit up while drunk is the biggest Pot > Kettle ever. No one is really trying to help her, not nearly as much as she helped all them. And this is her last season then? Hope she comes out well and ditches these assholes, instead of her landing in jail or committing suicide or something.
Ugh, they've made everyone self righteous assholes toward Fiona. Doesn't she own the house? Why are they telling her to get out.
In any case, Lip being mad at Fiona for fucking shit up while drunk is the biggest Pot > Kettle ever. No one is really trying to help her, not nearly as much as she helped all them. And this is her last season then? Hope she comes out well and ditches these assholes, instead of her landing in jail or committing suicide or something.
Ugh, they've made everyone self righteous assholes toward Fiona. Doesn't she own the house? Why are they telling her to get out.
In any case, Lip being mad at Fiona for fucking shit up while drunk is the biggest Pot > Kettle ever. No one is really trying to help her, not nearly as much as she helped all them. And this is her last season then? Hope she comes out well and ditches these assholes, instead of her landing in jail or committing suicide or something.
Interesting perspective thanks for sharingLip is though. It is a commonly held belief in AA that sobriety for an alcoholic cannot begin until they have hit rock bottom and surrender to being powerless over alcohol. AA explicitly discourages diagnosing others as alcoholics and forcefully pressuring to go to meetings.
Frank's whole thing about good vs bad drunks also has some merit. It's clear their are AA members in the writing staff or they did a really good job with their research. I've seen comedians and writers go to open meetings admitting they were doing research.
Lip is though. It is a commonly held belief in AA that sobriety for an alcoholic cannot begin until they have hit rock bottom and surrender to being powerless over alcohol. AA explicitly discourages diagnosing others as alcoholics and forcefully pressuring to go to meetings.
Frank's whole thing about good vs bad drunks also has some merit. It's clear their are AA members in the writing staff or they did a really good job with their research. I've seen comedians and writers go to open meetings admitting they were doing research.
Makes the series more realistic than it seems at first. I hate Fiona being shit on this whole season, but the series teaches us again how difficult it is to get out of that hole that everyone is still in. In Lips case I would flip like this too. Fiona is a hinderance when he wants to adopt Xan and also fucks with him daily by getting black out drunk where as he is trying to stay sober. I don't think they will kill Fiona - that is way too much, but Jimmy/Steve...he is surely coming back :)
The writers either stopped caring or can't write for shit anymore, the show clearly ran out of ideas 2 seasons ago.Wow that seemed forced as hell in many storylines, not just Fiona.
Yeah it's weird, Lip works full time, Carl was working at least part time, and Debbie works nights as a welder. Welder's make decent money, I bet with Debbie's money she could afford rent by herself.Debbie has been egocentric garbage since she entered puberty, it's the only character that never gets her comeuppance for anything.
The scene in which she asks Liam to pay the rent is just nuts. These people aren't even struggling for money anymore.
i didn't want to make a new thread for this. Just started this serie and watched episode 1 and 2. Really like what i see. But i heard after season 4 or 5 it's going downhill from there. Should i still continue tho? is season 4-5 worth it if i stop after that ?
It's quite obvious yeah. Personally I don't realy enjoy the show much anymore, I'm mostly watching it because after spending 10 years with this, may as well reach the finishing line and see where the characters end.Sorry for the bump has anyone been watching the new season yet? So far it's been pretty good. Only on episode 3 and
looks like Frank is showing signs of dementia.
I don't think anyone has liked Debbie since season 5 or something lolI recognized a bit of the UK narrative towards the end, nice touch.
it would have been best if they all moved to the suburbs of Louisville and had a viable future but that would have been too good of an ending the struggle continues for most of them.
Wife and I really didn't like debbie. she was like a mean version of frank with less booze or Fiona without the redeeming qualities.
I don't think anyone has liked Debbie since season 5 or something lol