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Shaming people into voting for an "alleged" rapist is disgusting and shows your privilege (and it doesn't bring people to the polls)
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i'm not voting biden because i like the guy but because it will at least guarantee better people replacing the filth that trump appointed. trump has done an amazing amount of damage and i'm supposed to continue to let it happen? fucking try and kick biden out of office once he gets in i don't give a shit. sorry but i am not okay with 4 more years of this bullshit just because biden might be a terrible person. trump is a terrible person and he is surrounding himself with goddamn filth just like him. you can do what you want but i definitely don't want to hear your complaining if trump gets reelected and continues his destruction.
If only we had like 4 years or something to find a good progressive candidate. It's really too bad that Biden is the only democratic candidate, right guys? It's just too bad
Biden is a virtulent racist tho....weve had NUMEROUS threads here about it.
You're right the establishment did literally nothing to push Biden. Oh wait, that's a fucking lie.
When people say DNC they really mean the Democratic party and its voters.
I wouldn't shame anyone. It's as simple as, between two rapists, which is least bad for the least amount of people. If your third option (of either not voting or writing in) means the worst rapist wins, you might want to reconsider if that's really an option. It's simple math.
The primary isn't over, Biden isn't the only choice. Democrat voters need to make noise about this, need to make it clear that this isn't acceptable, force him to drop out. Who his delegates go to after that is up to them, whether they go to Bernie or some moderate who comes back into the race is their business but Biden doesn't need to be the option.
This too, the more successful Biden started to do, the louder they got. I can't browse dedicated Political threads anymore, they upset me too much being full of the type of people you're referring to.
Honestly the fact that this type of stuff is even a discussion just cements my feeling that Trump will win, had a feeling before but yeah probably will.
This'll be somethin.
This'll be somethin.
Are you claiming Biden would not be a better president than Trump??? That's just silly.
Biden wasn't my pick in the primary. I don't like him at all, but if this what I have to go with in the election then I'll vote for him. And to be honest, I'm a pretty successful black man, even under Trump. My life may not change at all if he continues to be president. However I'm not voting so that only my life can be better. There are millions suffering because of him so it's an easy choice.
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Did you read the first and last points I made. Here's a refresher.
How dare you imply I'm not empathetic to others. I get why people want Trump gone, he's frightening! But at that same token I refuse to let victims be forced to relive horrific events and mock them for deciding that they cannot do anything. Victims of sexual assault should not have to be put through traumatic experiences again! Period!
Generally, if you have a set of values that might make you question voting for Biden, then those same values wouldn't actually let you not vote for him (assuming you sufficiently understand how the U.S. electoral process works).
I'm not going to scold people for voting for Biden. I'm just expressing that I will not vote for a rapist with multiple allegations of sexual misconduct. I'm still voting, but not for Joe Biden. If the progression of constantly lowering the bar to republican standards is what the democratic party represents then we're in deep shit either way.
Its people licking neoliberal boots, they want power to the corporations but without the blatant racism of the GOP.
Most electable my ass.
Its gonna be fucking weird to suddenly see right wing shits using this as some kinda gotcha, especially since Trumps list is still a lot longer.
Most electable my ass.
Its gonna be fucking weird to suddenly see right wing shits using this as some kinda gotcha, especially since Trumps list is still a lot longer.
I applaud you for this, OP. Well said.
When the general election comes, we'll deal with whatever options we have then.
But as of now, you don't HAVE to vote for Joe Biden, even if he is the most likely candidate to become the forerunner. There is zero excuse to support him at this time in light of these allegations.
When the general election comes, we'll deal with whatever options we have then.
But as of now, you don't HAVE to vote for Joe Biden, even if he is the most likely candidate to become the forerunner. There is zero excuse to support him at this time in light of these allegations.
I would love for it to be anyone but those two, but the idea that Bernie will reemerge or be able to be supported by the army of moderate capitalist democrats and their business interests is unlikely. The whole system is fucked. Here's hoping though.
I'm saying if the DNC gathers in support of a rapist and the voters support this decision then they've proven they will vote for literally anyone no matter what the democrats do. Trump is not relevant to the point I was making,
Not that poster but if you truly think that "duh voterz" are the only reason why Biden is front running you're deluded beyond belief. They (the DNC) have spent countless efforts in making sure that is the case.
How very shrewd
Trust me Bernie was my second choice but he had his chance over and over and over again to capture the majority of the public to his side
Fair or unfair we are so late in this now and this is the final play?
Do what you want but maybe we all agree to stop shaming each other and let the cards where they lay then?
True and what's worse is that this has been the Democrat's strategy for the last three decades: nominate shit candidates and then shame progressives into voting for said shit candidate.
Most Democratic lapdogs would never admit this out loud but Trump is the best thing to happen to their party because even somebody as demonstrably gross as Joe Biden looks decent next to Trump.
Yeah the VP who started putting kids in cages and mocked an immigrant family for bringing it up to him at a rally is going to release those kids in cages. Totally.
Vote for your god damn local elections then. You don't want to elect a fucking rapist? Fine. Don't sit out completely.
This is me verbatim. I get abstaining if you don't live in a purple state. Biden sucks, but the people have spoken. RGB is hanging on by a thread and the southern states are gearing up for a fight vs abortion, LGBT rights, and affirmative action. I get voting for an accused rapist sucks but you're damn right when so much shit is on the line, I'm going to pick the lesser of the 2 rapists.
Yes, everybody dropping out after Obama and Biden approached them during Super Tuesday to funnel all votes to Biden is not at all a political move lmao.
There were calls made and they "weren't asked" but they took actions behind the scenes to consolidate and make it happen. Promised political positions or power? Who knows, but playing blind and stupid just because you love Biden and think he's the most qualified doesn't mean it wasn't a political move made by people behind the scenes to try and win the primary.
I mean if you have the depth perception of a cyclops I can see how "NOTHING" was done by the bigger powers that be.
Eh, I mean in the face of the remain in Mexico policies I'd say Trump is basically releasing them and it's not actually a good thing either
This is not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about people defaulting to fucking dismissing, downplaying and attempting to silence her story, regardless of the way they're voting. It's happening all over the PoliERA thread and just in general.
Dislike the guy but I'm going to vote for him. There is no other alternative that has an opportunity to kick Trump out of office should Biden be at the top of the ticket. That's the reality come November. Not thrilled to say it but meh.
lol at what point did I say I would skip the other ballot boxes? This hostility is completely unearned.
I don't understand why people think they're only voting for who will be president. You're also voting for the party that will nominate judges, enforce the law, administer funds, protect the public, regulate trade, and conduct foreign policy. You aren't just voting for Biden, you're voting for the Democratic party. A party that actually believes in objective reality.
The president is not a king, they are a figurehead more than anything.
The president is not a king, they are a figurehead more than anything.
This is diningenous. You know you'll vote for him for re-election regardless of what he does to kids in cages.
I literally said in the fucking post that Biden's delegates can do whatever the fuck they want. Even if Biden drops out, I doubt the DNC would be fine with Bernie winning so another moderate will definitely rise up to replace Biden and the delegates may go for them. This isn't about getting Bernie to win, its about preventing a rapist from becoming the democratic candidate.
Is Biden worse than Trump in your opinion? Would 4 years of Biden and a Supreme Court Justice picked by him be worse than 4 more years of Trump and his own SCOTUS nominee? Because that's how I am looking at it. I don't like Biden in the slightest. I don't like his personality, I don't like his opinions on important issues, and I certainly don't like all of the personal statements and issues that surrounds him. But he is still not as bad as Trump and will not do as much damage as Trump.
I know that's a shitty way to look at it, but it's a shit political system in a shit country full of shit people so I don't really have a choice.
Don't vote for "Biden" then.
Vote for the least privileged among us.
Full stop.
This kind of response is extremely disingenuous when you look at the fact that the Obama administration built those cages in the first place.
It is really too bad that Bernie and Warren couldn't run better campaigns, I agree.
I mean not really. Big-money donors and mainstream media outlets fawned over Pete for months and were pretty critical of Biden. He picked up a lot of endorsements from people who've known him for years, but even in that area he didn't really take off until everyone else had dropped out. As far as establishment support goes, Biden's, given his stature within the party, was pretty pathetic up until a few weeks ago.
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