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Shawn Layden interview - on Sony's first party development, streaming, E3, acquisitions and more
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If rumors hold true, and they sell a premium and cheaper console, I wonder how that works out. I assume Sony is going for one type again.
I don't think they have any reason to not do so. MS will be looking to undercut them with that cheaper offering but they need that jump start..
You guys think there is some US media Cabal driving negative Playstation coverage?
You are such a dirty bird. I can't help but agree with so much of it though. You probably aren't giving enough credit to games like Forza, Ori, Gears or even Halo. Its not like the quality level is sooooo much lower than the Sony games you mention but Sony has certainly taken the cake for exclusive first party games especially if you don't care for racing games.
I hope they don't. Releasing multiple consoles makes the most sense for the market imo. I think there is a huge market of players globally who previously might never have bought a console because of 30 fps limitations or non-native resolutions (e.g. 900p). Having more choices is a good thing just like it's nice to have both the PS4 and PS4 PRO on the market which will cater for more people than just having a single, value oriented console.
You said earlier in the thread "RIP AA Sony Games". Is Concrete Genie not an example of that?
I like that MS are all about options these days. I wish Sony would follow in that regard.
I do agree here..I would like a high end and entry level PS5 at launch.
I wouldn’t say mastered. GoW, TLOU, and Bloodborne are master pieces, sure. But games like Horizon, Spider-Man, and Infamous had things that could have been better, perhaps much better. I would rather those studios keep going with those types of games. And there is no way I would pull ND and SSM off TLOU/Uncharted/GoW type games.
So my point is: I don’t see where there is space for Sony to put a top tier studio on a Nintendo type game.
What exactly are you trying to say here?Looks at Days Gone and Concrete Genie
Days Gone looks great and even had months of polish even though the core game is done and Concrete Genie is looking like a good experimental game.
It would be easier to sell and market too. 1 sku vs the, supposedly, 3 from MS.
Funny to think about it but had they adopted this strategy back in the PS3 days with different models with and without the internal PS2 at different prices, the launch might have gone very different.
Not to sound like moronic but the only success they have it's always related to a Sony collaboration. So I'm genuinely asking why persist to have independence if they are unable to have success without Sony?
They aren't doing 3. That would be plain stupid. I really think the streaming console is a nutty idea still. Infrastructure in the US is still ass.
Not necessarily. Ninja Theory was independent and had successful games. I honestly think contract wise Insomniac has like 3-4 titles under contract with Sony at the moment. Seeing Spiderman, and Ratchet and clank doing very well. They may see how Sony has great success wit promoting their games better than EA, microsoft ever had.
I think we might hear more later this year after March.
Isn't the rumor, streaming sku, mid powerful sku, and the high end sku?
Playground also wanted to remain independent, and the next thing that happened they were bought by Microsoft, so never say never.
They released 3 models of the Xbox 360, granted all had the same specs, but they didn't fail to sell well. The 360 Elite was a very sought after console because of the cool black colour. I don't think most consumers will necessarily understand what the upgrades are but they'll know the more expensive consoles offer something better in one way or another, just like with the 360 models. It won't confuse the consumer imo.
Well yeah, but I don't really care about their bottom line. I am not a shareholder. The article mentioned subscriptions. Putting their first party titles on a subscription would benefit my wallet and make me happy as a customer. So yeah. /shrug.
Anyway, I would spend more money through subscriptions in their ecosystem than if they didn't do that.
I'm sure that's true in some instances, however I would not be surprised if there are posters who are holding a double standard in regards to MS + sony's E3 presence or lack there of.
But that's console fandom I suppose, I'm sure people do it on the MS side to.
I still think skipping E3 is a bad move, and I think the argument supporting this stance is stronger. Does it mean PlayStation is in any sort of trouble, no of course not, but it is a blemish on what would of been a near perfect picture.
And blemishes can add up.
Further context would be MS exclusive line up being less then steller is a pretty big blemish.
Bruh, I mean expand beyond their own studios. You keep mistaking that I mean to pull some resources from one area into this one. I don't . I mean in addition to what they're currently successfully doing.
They all released within 6 months of each other if I remember correctly.
It will be a thing again.
There is just no way it doesnt come back.
Battle Royale, the Cinematic campaign it deserves, the PS Brand marketing.
And Layden and Yoshida have teased that they can improve on the multiplayer sector. It is just too perfect to not happen.
And to make it easier, just a reboot.
Lol, it is absolutely ridiculous. Like the sort of thing that would be on the info wars of gaming.
I am not sure what any of this has to do with this thread..maybe create a thread about double standards about e3 for MS and Sony then? It is not a shock both fanbases are guilty of fanboy behaviour............................
Besides the obvious candidates for acquisitions, something like Level 5 would be great. Would love to see a fully funded Sony jrpg
What this thread shows is a console war that looks like everybody here have sides but try to hide...
If you go to first party threads from both MS and Sony is easy to see a bunch of fanboys...
If you point a problem with any of Sony or MS they come... If you have a negative opinion about their first party games they come.
Sony has things to shake up for next gen, but being arrogant is not one of them... They have been amazing with their portfolio this gen. fewer games but most of them gems.
If you go to first party threads from both MS and Sony is easy to see a bunch of fanboys...
If you point a problem with any of Sony or MS they come... If you have a negative opinion about their first party games they come.
Sony has things to shake up for next gen, but being arrogant is not one of them... They have been amazing with their portfolio this gen. fewer games but most of them gems.
I understand, but I'd be happy as a customer if Ferrari gave me a 488 for a fiver, but it's not going to happen.
I just think it would be a better a strategy to do two at most. One where you say we have the most powerful, and then one where you say it's cheaper than the other guy. I'm a pro at marketing, you see.
They’ve tried that though. We had a new studio do Sly and it’s nowhere to be seen since the PS3/Vita game. Knack sucked. The remasters of Patapon/Wipeout/LocoRoco/Parappa didn’t move the needle. Gravity Rush 1 and 2 didn’t attract a wide audience. But we had a great reimagining of Ratchet. I don’t think you are acknowledging how much effort they have put into that type of game, bruh. They’ve had internal and external studios try this and it doesn’t work out for them.
Maybe Concrete Genie and the Medieval remaster will be great but I’m skeptical that those games will reach more than a few hundred thousand people. Still have dreams to release as well. So I’m not seeing some gaping hole that you speak of.
How odd, you reply to me, then I reply back and then you claim its off topic?
why are you even participating in the conversation if you thinks it's off topic?
There were two models at launch, the Arcade and Premium. Elite came a couple of years later.
PS3 launched with two versions too, 20gb and 60gb models.
It's easy to accuse Sony of being complacent, when in reality, it's just a symptom of them doing so many things right this generation - that there's not many sweeping changes that need to be made heading into next generation. They have been lights out nearly this entire generation, and outside of a few little things like cross play and software / infrastructure updates, they've been nearly impeccable this entire generation. A side step from this generation to the next isn't a bad thing. They've been that good this generation.
Also, we have Days Gone and Dreams this year too (not that they're as big as the other 3, but still are aiming for AAA experiences). And no doubt Horizon 2 and God of War 2 are probably well on their way for PS5.
Yeah and that's easier to swallow for people. Two different HDDs. Power differences could be...something. Curious how it all shakes out.
Sure, I get that. I personally think that if either company did 3 models, the consumer wouldn't be confused by it and it will give more options for the people who understand what the differences are. In the GPU market you have Nvidia selling product lines starting from the GTX x50 line all the way up to GTX x80 line (I know the 1030 exists but according to Nvidia it's not a GTX card but "GT"). I don't see anyone confused with that product segmenting and it's actually one of the biggest advantages of PC gaming considering you have so many performance options for basically all budgets. I'm not saying XBox2/PS5 need 10 products in their family but having a selection of options will only benefit the consumer overall.
My biggest complaint with Sony. So many top-quality games...but they aren't of my favorite genre. I want that same love & attention paid to RPG's. :)
Well if Microsoft pull ahead they likely will offer more in the way of options.
Much easier, less confusing for the casual market too.
That market you're talking about it minuscule compared to the average consumer.
Having multiple PS5's won't just create confusion it'll make the lower spec offering seem inferior and less sought after than the high price model.
Even if it means Sony fall in the middle of MS's two offerings in terms of power, i'd prefer that model overall.