My biggest complaint with Sony. So many top-quality games...but they aren't of my favorite genre. I want that same love & attention paid to RPG's. :)
I like that MS are all about options these days. I wish Sony would follow in that regard.
It would be easier to sell and market too. 1 sku vs the, supposedly, 3 from MS.
I hope they don't. Releasing multiple consoles makes the most sense for the market imo. I think there is a huge market of players globally who previously might never have bought a console because of 30 fps limitations or non-native resolutions (e.g. 900p). Having more choices is a good thing just like it's nice to have both the PS4 and PS4 PRO on the market which will cater for more people than just having a single, value oriented console.
Well, mine is just a tad more realistic. But ok.I understand, but I'd be happy as a customer if Ferrari gave me a 488 for a fiver, but it's not going to happen.
I never understood why Sony and MS didn't put real investment into studios to also create really great "cartoon visual, family friendly games" to compete with Nintendo games.
Problem with RPG's is how big and hard they would be to make. Even more so then what sony makes now.
My biggest complaint with Sony. So many top-quality games...but they aren't of my favorite genre. I want that same love & attention paid to RPG's. :)
Dammit Coulson! :D
This.Its really weird you wouldn't know Sony still has 10+ games coming out by reading some of these replies this all really weird at this poitn and makes no sense to be acting like this.
Yeah, just wish that they had a JRPG studio, since it's my fav genre and one that does very well on Sony's systems so it's weird that they don't.My biggest complaint with Sony. So many top-quality games...but they aren't of my favorite genre. I want that same love & attention paid to RPG's. :)
This doesn't mean anything though and I fail to see your point about it not being a good thing. Games will still be made for the base consoles regardless and being more "sought after" doesn't actually translate into anything because the vast majority of people will opt for the cheaper, value product just like with this gen and even in PC GPU's. The mobile market is probably the best example of multiple product launches at different price/performance tiers being a massive success.it'll make the lower spec offering seem inferior and less sought after than the high price model.
double SKUs @ launch goes against the entire current policy of playstationIf rumors hold true, and they sell a premium and cheaper console, I wonder how that works out. I assume Sony is going for one type again.
I don't think they are going to acquire anyone in the near (1-2 years) future. That being said, I wouldn't be surprised if the PS5 meeting/first PS5 game showcase was coupled with a new studio that has been acquired by Sony. But again, I doubt it. They like commissioning games when appropriate rather than buying teams.Sony is probably going to acquire Bluepoint, Sanzaru, ReadyAtDawn, and Supermassive. It makes the most sense to grab those 4 who already work on PlayStation exclusives for the most part.
Beyond the Ratchet and Clank games, I wouldn't necessarily call the rest trying. LOL. Nor would I consider Gravity Rush 1 and 2 a Nintendo styled game.They've tried that though. We had a new studio do Sly and it's nowhere to be seen since the PS3/Vita game. Knack sucked. The remasters of Patapon/Wipeout/LocoRoco/Parappa didn't move the needle. Gravity Rush 1 and 2 didn't attract a wide audience. But we had a great reimagining of Ratchet. I don't think you are acknowledging how much effort they have put into that type of game, bruh. They've had internal and external studios try this and it doesn't work out for them.
Maybe Concrete Genie and the Medieval remaster will be great but I'm skeptical that those games will reach more than a few hundred thousand people. Still have dreams to release as well. So I'm not seeing some gaping hole that you speak of.
There is no both sides here. One company is delivering on quality AAA Class leading games. The other is developing a cult around an executive, studio purchases, and blind faith that a good game will eventually hit.
I hear Astrobot is fantastic. All the rest done at a high level like the Ratchet and Clank remake and now were talking.They have some IP's:
Astrobot
Ratchet & Clank
Sly Cooper (will have a TV show this year so maybe a new game is coming)
Jak & Daxter
Ape Escape
Sure, I get that. I personally think that if either company did 3 models, the consumer wouldn't be confused by it and it will give more options for the people who understand what the differences are. In the GPU market you have Nvidia selling product lines starting from the GTX x50 line all the way up to GTX x80 line (I know the 1030 exists but according to Nvidia it's not a GTX card but "GT"). I don't see anyone confused with that product segmenting and it's actually one of the biggest advantages of PC gaming considering you have so many performance options for basically all budgets. I'm not saying XBox2/PS5 need 10 products in their family but having a selection of options will only benefit the consumer overall.
Okay well I got nothing else to say if you just want to completely ignore their efforts. They have tried to reach a family friendly audience. That audience isn't receptive to Playstation unless it's MLB The Show. PlayStation is serving an audience that other manufacturers are not.Beyond the Ratchet and Clank games, I wouldn't necessarily call the rest trying. LOL. Nor would I consider Gravity Rush 1 and 2 a Nintendo styled game.
The whole point of having devs is to provide a good selection of exclusives every year.
Sony already has this, they don't need anymore.
Well, they'll need to hire even more third party studios to develop exclusive games. They lost Super Massive, Ninja Theory and Quantic Dream in less than a year.
Meanwhile, Astro Bot blew everyone away and has multiple goty honorable mentions. We might not get sales numbers, but it was successful.They've tried that though. We had a new studio do Sly and it's nowhere to be seen since the PS3/Vita game. Knack sucked. The remasters of Patapon/Wipeout/LocoRoco/Parappa didn't move the needle. Gravity Rush 1 and 2 didn't attract a wide audience. But we had a great reimagining of Ratchet. I don't think you are acknowledging how much effort they have put into that type of game, bruh. They've had internal and external studios try this and it doesn't work out for them.
Maybe Concrete Genie and the Medieval remaster will be great but I'm skeptical that those games will reach more than a few hundred thousand people. Still have dreams to release as well. So I'm not seeing some gaping hole that you speak of.
They've mastered that shit. Same as Nintendo mastered platformers and their games. These are master class video games. Horizon and Spider-Man were first their respective series, so of course they aren't perfect.. but they were fun as hell.I wouldn't say mastered. GoW, TLOU, and Bloodborne are master pieces, sure. But games like Horizon, Spider-Man, and Infamous had things that could have been better, perhaps much better. I would rather those studios keep going with those types of games. And there is no way I would pull ND and SSM off TLOU/Uncharted/GoW type games.
So my point is: I don't see where there is space for Sony to put a top tier studio on a Nintendo type game.
But they also get freebies from Japan like Persona & Yakuza, among others, so they won't be too hard up for exclusives.
Why exactly? Almost all of the big AAA and the small indie RPGs are coming to PlayStation anyways.
I don't understand how it's not simple? If the average tech-illiterate/uneducated consumer isn't confused by the several product tiers being offered in the smartphone market by Samsung or Apple for example, I don't see why they'd suddenly be confused by multiple console's within a console family. I already mentioned before that they might not necessarily know the specifics of each product tier but 'paying more = better performance' is a simple concept to understand. Hell, the current gen is already doing it with PS4/X1S and PS4P/X1X and consumers are already used to it.The people they are going for need it simplified. What's the price, what games we getting, etc. Splitting up into 3 is just asking for confusion I don't think MS needs.
Switch and PC will probably start eating at them.But they also get freebies from Japan like Persona & Yakuza, among others, so they won't be too hard up for exclusives.
But they also get freebies from Japan like Persona & Yakuza, among others, so they won't be too hard up for exclusives.
What this thread shows is a console war that looks like everybody here have sides but try to hide...
If you go to first party threads from both MS and Sony is easy to see a bunch of fanboys...
If you point a problem with any of Sony or MS they come... If you have a negative opinion about their first party games they come.
Sony has things to shake up for next gen, but being arrogant is not one of them... They have been amazing with their portfolio this gen. fewer games but most of them gems.
We'll have to see how long it will last. Persona has "dated" with Nintendo and Sega should not take long to make Yakuza multiplatform now that the games are being released for PC.
Who said anything about rush? Sony will always be looking to buy studios, all of them are, as they can always get better.Even if they lose out on all those exclusives I still don't see Sony falling on hard enough times to rush out and buy studios. When the loudest critics of Sony's policies still remark "I'm only gonna buy a PS5 for exclusives" then it's clear Sony has little to worry about overall.
Booo this man!, they lower the count of the games they're working on and they're all shooty bang bangs... throw me a platforming bone would ya?And with our decision to do fewer games -- bigger games -- over longer periods of time
Huh? How are all sony's first party shooty bang bangs?Booo this man!, they lower the count of the games they're working on and they're all shooty bang bangs... throw me a platforming bone would ya?
Right, but that's two SKUs. I'm not convinced the average consumer isn't a little confused with all the phone choices. My wife isn't tech illiterate and still has tons of questions when it comes to choices for buying. I just think simple is best for a launch and I don't see a streaming only Xbox as worth whatever cost it would be to make compared to the other two. Simply because internet here is ass in most places. Maybe I'm wrong and they just go for it. Curious either way what 2020/2021 looks like.I don't understand how it's not simple? If the average tech-illiterate/uneducated consumer isn't confused by the several product tiers being offered in the smartphone market by Samsung or Apple for example, I don't see why they'd suddenly be confused by multiple console's within a console family. I already mentioned before that they might not necessarily know the specifics of each product tier but 'paying more = better performance' is a simple concept to understand. Hell, the current gen is already doing it with PS4/X1S and PS4P/X1X and consumers are already used to it.
They actually published quite a few stinkers last year, like two VR games from the Until Dawn developer Supermassive. They published 20 games total last year. But of course the great ones make up for it, atleast in my eyes.Sony has things to shake up for next gen, but being arrogant is not one of them... They have been amazing with their portfolio this gen. fewer games but most of them gems.
Why you think that?
I don't want any 3rd party to be made single platform.
Studio acquisitions make more sence then starting a a studio from scratch.
Starting studios from scratch is a lot harder.
BWHAHAHAHA....now it all makes sense. The difference in tone and the posts in the two threads is striking.From the Obsidian thread: Kotaku: Microsoft finalizing deal to acquire Obsidian Entertainment
Fuck E3, especially Sony's, it's always on at the shittest time for us Europeans. If Sony only ever did sometimes like PSX (which is better timewise, but not great either) I'd be happier.I really don't care too much about what he said, other than I think that the dismissive attitude and talk about E3 is really sucky for us hardcore video game fans who love that gaming focused event. I don't get this whole thing where even the Sony fans seem okay or resigned to it because "the world has changed" or something when you know that almost every one of them would be thrilled with Sony showing up at E3 to show cool things even if known stuff or 3rd party too. No matter how anyone wants to spin it, this is just not a gamer friendly move no matter the supposed rationale. E3 is the largest celebration of video games, and Sony is sitting it out by choice.
Sony studios are great.Why exactly? Almost all of the big AAA and the small indie RPGs are coming to PlayStation anyways.
Umm, Obsidian isn't doing singleplatform games for MS. They will be on PC too in addition to Xbox. Also MS are working on the Project xCloud to bring the games on even more platforms.From the Obsidian thread: Kotaku: Microsoft finalizing deal to acquire Obsidian Entertainment
Obsidian isn't single platform so he's not wrong. They're still making games for both console and PC. If a studio is acquired by Sony I very much doubt they'll be allowed to release games on 2 platforms like MS are doing.From the Obsidian thread: Kotaku: Microsoft finalizing deal to acquire Obsidian Entertainment
Bro what games have you been seeing?Booo this man!, they lower the count of the games they're working on and they're all shooty bang bangs... throw me a platforming bone would ya?
From the Obsidian thread: Kotaku: Microsoft finalizing deal to acquire Obsidian Entertainment
Sony does publish some multiplatform games under Sony Music Entertainment and Playstation Mobile, but yeah that won't include any first party stuff.Obsidian isn't single platform so he's not wrong. They're still making games for both console and PC. If a studio is acquired by Sony I very much doubt they'll be allowed to release games on 2 platforms like MS are doing.
Well yeah, if they are locking the games on one platform. That kinda sucks. More multiplatform games the better, exclusives don't benefit the consumers.Lol.
Get ready for more of this going forward if the shoe does go on the other foot, and it ends up being Sony that starts making a larger number of acquisitions.
Preaching Bird!There is no both sides here. One company is delivering on quality AAA Class leading games. The other is developing a cult around an executive, studio purchases, and blind faith that a good game will eventually hit.