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She-Ra and the Princesses of Power |OT| Sword to Reboot!
- Thread starter spookyduzt
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So uh...
(S4 ending spoilers)
Double Trouble is the best character of the season bar none.
Also...(more late-season spoilers)
(S4 ending spoilers)
Catra's definitely got a 'chance' for a redemption arc - but she's also got a LOT of shit she has to somehow come to terms with, not to mention the stuff she needs to do to make up for what she did.
She's essentially had the seeds sown for it, what with her crying over Scorpia/Entrapta, pushing the henchmen trio away, etc... and also kinda-sorta hit rock bottom, but it's gonna be a little odd depending on how it ends up with Catra/Glimmer on Horde Prime and Adora/Bow still on the planet to show some kind of reconciliation - even if Glimmer and her being forced to work together makes for an opportunity, she's gonna need to get re-united with Adora at some point.
Also curious to see how She-ra and co. get a massive powerup to combat horde prime.
She's essentially had the seeds sown for it, what with her crying over Scorpia/Entrapta, pushing the henchmen trio away, etc... and also kinda-sorta hit rock bottom, but it's gonna be a little odd depending on how it ends up with Catra/Glimmer on Horde Prime and Adora/Bow still on the planet to show some kind of reconciliation - even if Glimmer and her being forced to work together makes for an opportunity, she's gonna need to get re-united with Adora at some point.
Also curious to see how She-ra and co. get a massive powerup to combat horde prime.
Double Trouble is the best character of the season bar none.
Also...(more late-season spoilers)
Double Trouble being used as a proxy for Catradora via that Adora image, while simultaneously breaking the hard truth to Catra is just.....chef's kiss
Finished the newest season/arc with my girlfriend. I'm am very much going to be in the minority as I didn't think too highly of it. Double Trouble being a walking plot device more than a character is the least of this season's problems, since some of my other fears about the season came true. Too tired to really put the rest of my thoughts into text for now.
I really hope there is going to be a total of five arcs, rather than the originally planned four, because no way in hell is the show going to end satisfactorily (to me at least) with only thirteen episodes left.
I really hope there is going to be a total of five arcs, rather than the originally planned four, because no way in hell is the show going to end satisfactorily (to me at least) with only thirteen episodes left.
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It's hard to imagine there only being 13 episodes left. There's still a lot to cover:
There's a way to cram this all into 13 episodes but there'd have to be basically no filler at all.
- Catra and Glimmer escaping Horde Prime
- Adora finding the power of She-Ra within herself without the sword
- Catrademption with Adora, Glimmer, and Scorpia
- Developing Horde Prime as a character
- Glimmer reunion with Micah
- Hordak becoming unbrainwashed/reunion with Entrapta
- Any leftover First Ones/Mara story arc stuff
- Razz stuff?
- Angella alive?
- Final battle with Horde Prime
- Epilogue/final character resolution/C A T R A D O R A
There's a way to cram this all into 13 episodes but there'd have to be basically no filler at all.
Scenes that should be ILLEGAL because they made me FEEL TOO MANY THINGS:
[Light Hope dying - picture not found]
And the most ILLEGAL and PAINFUL of all
Why would you say something so controversial yet so brave
I love how this season subverted our expectations for Catra. With her humiliating Hordak at the start you think she's going to continue her constant upward trajectory as a villain. Instead she burns out in the most self-destructive and pathetic way possible, taking the rest of the Horde with her. It's sad and really fitting.
Best part is that Glimmer didn't even need the Heart of Etheria's power to beat the Horde. It was all for nothing because the Horde beat itself (with a little help from Double Trouble). And Glimmer's willingness to do anything to win only ended up replacing the Horde with a far more dangerous enemy.
Best part is that Glimmer didn't even need the Heart of Etheria's power to beat the Horde. It was all for nothing because the Horde beat itself (with a little help from Double Trouble). And Glimmer's willingness to do anything to win only ended up replacing the Horde with a far more dangerous enemy.
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That scene between Double Trouble and Catra didn't do it for me at all, too contrived. It only further cemented Double Trouble as a walking plot device to me. Maybe if they had been in the show since season two.
Thinking on it some more, I don't...disagree?
There's definitely some contrivance therein to be had, for sure, but I imagine that
They wanted to really, REALLY get Catra's 'rock bottom' across
I think it would have been helped by Double Trouble having better/stronger motivation than 'survival of the fittest' (or at least had a more in-depth backstory)
GIVE US THE CATRADORA MUSICAL EPISODE
Also Jacob Tobia tweeted this lol:
I feel Double Trouble was completely unnecessary in driving home that Catra hit rock bottom. The S3 finale was her hitting rock bottom, she tried to destroy space and time because she couldn't cope with everything. (She was essentially trying to commit suicide and wanted to take everyone down with her.) The fallout of that was handled really poorly. Her character arc is mostly in stagnation during this season, Scorpia needed to have left at the begging and not not halfway into the arc. Also one thing that really bothers me is that Catra is shown having some PTSD symptoms when the portal incident is brought up but then it's completely dropped before the season is even halfway over.
Double Trouble is a sadist and a mercenary, nothing more, nothing less. Their lack of a sympathetic motivation is kinda the point; Catra put her trust in someone who freely admitted they only care about the money while burning bridges with the people who had more reason to care about her.
If it wasn't Double Trouble, it would probably have been one of the goons from the Crimson Wastes last season.
If it wasn't Double Trouble, it would probably have been one of the goons from the Crimson Wastes last season.
loved the season, but 'hero' was a standout. making sense of razz's madness was fun storytelling and super engaging.
the humor is really great too.
light hope: 'i did not know humans could not swim'
netossa: 'this is why no one comes to game night. tell her!'
adora: 'oh... i don't...'
swift wind: 'ohhhh right, they multipl-'
adora: 'WE FORGOT THEY MULTIPLIED!'
the humor is really great too.
light hope: 'i did not know humans could not swim'
netossa: 'this is why no one comes to game night. tell her!'
adora: 'oh... i don't...'
swift wind: 'ohhhh right, they multipl-'
adora: 'WE FORGOT THEY MULTIPLIED!'
At least it's better than Steven Universe where colonizing imperialists are completely redeemed in the end.
Haha wow. This might be a thing where adult creators writing kid shows want to include serious themes while maintaining innocence with certain characters.
The former doesn't preclude the latter.
Having sympathetic villains is not "having it both ways".
Wait, so you don't think Hordak/Catra/Scorpia are committing war crimes? That's my main point.
Then again, it's a kids show. Great season!
Mind you I do like Steven Universe but that aspect is rather silly when you think about it. I'd say cartoons (and fiction in general) have always done this to some extent.
I'm saying a character participating in war crimes does not prevent them from being a sympathetic character.
For Scorpia specifically, the worst thing she has done on-screen is perfidy... Which is something many outright heroes do in fiction.
I really, really liked this season. Probably the best season yet. Nice they didn't break it up though you can definitely tell which episode was meant to be the ending if they broke them into two 6/7 seasons.
Loved stuff with more development for Scorpia, and how awesome her powers seem to be. She's already pretty strong and now you had electricity to the mix?! Horde's chances of winning drastic go down. Kinda curious though that she still doesn't seem to know her family never willingly worked for the Horde.
Double Trouble was great. They just cause shit for the fun of it. Kind of funny why the hero gang with Flutterina is like sure twelve year old girl who seems to have no family and also no real combat ability, please join us.
I really, really don't care for Hordak. He's never been a real threat even when he was the main threat. Anytime the Horde wins, it's never really because of him. Even the fight between him and Catra literally has her just slapping his big cannon blaster right away and squashing him. I can't tell if it's intentional or not, but it feels like it isn't at least not early on.
I. Hate. Swift. Wind. Loved how Glimmer's powers got to be. I always thought back in S1 that her teleporting could be OP if actual magic was added. Do wish she had more anger towards Catra. She's basically responsible for the death of her mother but Glimmer's anger just seems generic because you're with the Horde rage. Looking forward to seeing if they bond next season.
I do think Shadow Weaver doesn't have any plans to manipulate Glimmer, but also don't think she's gonna be a good guy. She's just there because the Horde don't want her and there's no where else to really go to.
Really liked getting to know more of Mara. If Razz is experiencing actual memories, it's really interesting that she was able to tell Mara about Adora in advance even if she didn't know who it was. I find it interesting the season still pushes the Entrapta is on the side of who has the best technology thing.
Can't wait for next season. It's crazy if they have to wrap up all that stuff in just thirteen episodes unless they get more.
Double Trouble was great. They just cause shit for the fun of it. Kind of funny why the hero gang with Flutterina is like sure twelve year old girl who seems to have no family and also no real combat ability, please join us.
I really, really don't care for Hordak. He's never been a real threat even when he was the main threat. Anytime the Horde wins, it's never really because of him. Even the fight between him and Catra literally has her just slapping his big cannon blaster right away and squashing him. I can't tell if it's intentional or not, but it feels like it isn't at least not early on.
I. Hate. Swift. Wind. Loved how Glimmer's powers got to be. I always thought back in S1 that her teleporting could be OP if actual magic was added. Do wish she had more anger towards Catra. She's basically responsible for the death of her mother but Glimmer's anger just seems generic because you're with the Horde rage. Looking forward to seeing if they bond next season.
I do think Shadow Weaver doesn't have any plans to manipulate Glimmer, but also don't think she's gonna be a good guy. She's just there because the Horde don't want her and there's no where else to really go to.
Really liked getting to know more of Mara. If Razz is experiencing actual memories, it's really interesting that she was able to tell Mara about Adora in advance even if she didn't know who it was. I find it interesting the season still pushes the Entrapta is on the side of who has the best technology thing.
Can't wait for next season. It's crazy if they have to wrap up all that stuff in just thirteen episodes unless they get more.
It's more that the overall message of SU is meant to be one of love and positivity, that everyone has a chance to be good.
Obviously how successful they are is gonna very person to person but I kinda like the arc the Diamonds had.(well Blue and Yellow anyway.)
Oh right She-Ra......uh, will give full thoughts when I can but damn between this and the Sonic comic a lot of "shit got worse" in my series lately.
Scroll down, I actually like the show. :P (Even if Sugar seemingly has a naive view of the world.)
Thank you! 👏
I liked Glimmer until this season. There's a way to do a headstrong character making bad choices well but this ain't it.
Bow's friendship speech to Entrapta was incredible. It was nice that he never gave up on her despite the fact she willingly joined the Horde.
She was going through a lot and she had her reasons, sure, but it isn't fun to watch a character yell at their friends for hours on end.
Exactly. The infighting got insufferable and was rather contrived at points. It's not that the foundation wasn't there but the execution was bad.
Also Double Trouble's role in that was unnecessary and detracted from their character.
I get Glimmer was going through shit, and I'd accept it if we're all for the same goal...but the minute she was legit going through with the "Risk ending the world" plan....
man , sometimes I wish this was an anime lol. If it we're we could have a scene where Adora and Glimmer fight each other and work it out physically. Seriously though, Glimmer was talking/acting WILD, and too much stuff was at stake. Not wrong to smack some sense into her or idk just restrict her to her room untill she calmed down..
Also, Double Trouble was great. "Troublemaker" characters could get annoying but I feel like they were level-headed enough to be fun to root for at times
man , sometimes I wish this was an anime lol. If it we're we could have a scene where Adora and Glimmer fight each other and work it out physically. Seriously though, Glimmer was talking/acting WILD, and too much stuff was at stake. Not wrong to smack some sense into her or idk just restrict her to her room untill she calmed down..
Also, Double Trouble was great. "Troublemaker" characters could get annoying but I feel like they were level-headed enough to be fun to root for at times
Hey guys,
I haven't caught up on Season 4 so I won't stick around in here too long, but I wanted to bring everyone's attention to Twelve Forever.
This is an original Netflix show that looks like it's only getting one season, which is a tragedy because it is phenomenal. There are just over 20 episodes and each one is about 13 minutes long.
The show follows our protagonist, Reggie, a girl who starts the series on her twelfth birthday. She lives with her single mom and older brother, and has one friend; at school she's kind of an oddball and doesn't fit in well with most of the other kids. She enjoys clinging to her childhood, and struggles with the prospect of growing up and leaving the kiddie things behind.
Oh yeah, and she also has a magic key that lets her teleport to her own personal alternate dimension, where she can conjure almost anything she can imagine.
It's really, really great, and the diversity and representation level is off the charts, plus it's heartwarming and engaging.
if you enjoy She-Ra, I bet you're going to love this one.
Thanks!
I haven't caught up on Season 4 so I won't stick around in here too long, but I wanted to bring everyone's attention to Twelve Forever.
This is an original Netflix show that looks like it's only getting one season, which is a tragedy because it is phenomenal. There are just over 20 episodes and each one is about 13 minutes long.
The show follows our protagonist, Reggie, a girl who starts the series on her twelfth birthday. She lives with her single mom and older brother, and has one friend; at school she's kind of an oddball and doesn't fit in well with most of the other kids. She enjoys clinging to her childhood, and struggles with the prospect of growing up and leaving the kiddie things behind.
Oh yeah, and she also has a magic key that lets her teleport to her own personal alternate dimension, where she can conjure almost anything she can imagine.
It's really, really great, and the diversity and representation level is off the charts, plus it's heartwarming and engaging.
if you enjoy She-Ra, I bet you're going to love this one.
Thanks!
Great season. I really enjoyed it a lot more than the last two.
The constant fighting between Glimmer and Adora was a bit annoying and sad but I guess it's supposed to be that way. Double Trouble was great and I loved what they added to this season. I hope they stick around for the last arc. Also Scorpia is still the best, wow.
Finished it, was so good.
The "Hero" episode left me in stunned silence, that episode was just one of those episodes of a show that just goes way above and beyond and is super memorable.
I'm glad I stopped watching at the Boys Night Out episode and resumed with "Hero", because that episode followed by binging up to the finale was just so gooood
The "Hero" episode left me in stunned silence, that episode was just one of those episodes of a show that just goes way above and beyond and is super memorable.
I'm glad I stopped watching at the Boys Night Out episode and resumed with "Hero", because that episode followed by binging up to the finale was just so gooood
Holy shit those last few episodes.
I can't wait for the next season, this series has been so freaking amazing all the way through.
I can't wait for the next season, this series has been so freaking amazing all the way through.
I just realized that She-Ra is the only show I've seen that reverses the "Bury your gays" trope.
Poor Angela and Hordak.
I'll check it out.
Noelle confirmed today in an AMA on Reddit that Netossa and Spinnerella are married. Sure would be nice if that were in the actual text of the show. 🙄
To be fair, I have a feeling that's something beyond Noelle's control and that if she could have confirmed in-show that Netossa and Spinnerella were married, she would have.
Probably the case, which means nothing happening between Adora and Catra until the last episode. If two background characters can't be referred to as girlfriends in the text I have no hope. I don't know why she took the job if she was going to be shackled so much.
I've seen the first three episodes of that show and agree that it is really good!
There is a character in that show (I won't spoil) that is basically just a really crazy package of character design, voice acting and theme music and has to be seen to be believed. I didn't think they could pull it off like that but they did.
I mean, better to make a show with some shackles and tell the story than not make a show at all?
That's true, but we should also consider how much she's accomplished even with the shackles. Double Trouble alone feels like a massive victory for this show, much less how prominent LGBTQ+ themes and characters in general are present in the story as it is already. To me, this feels like an important step in the right direction- it hasn't even been five years yet since Korrasami became canon and look at the margin of improvement seen in this show and in Steven Universe.
What??? It's 100% in the text that they're dating. The lack of text is the married part. You might need to rewatch their scenes of s4