Like, the season pass part is understandable. A bit shitty since the game could have used some goodwill by tying it to higher pledges, but understandable.
The pre order content not being avaiable to every backer is just disgusting.
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Shenmue 3 Kickstarter Backers will not receive preorder/Deluxe Edition bonuses
- Thread starter Chairmanchuck (另一个我)
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The pre order content not being avaiable to every backer is just disgusting.
Why should we get more content totally for free that wasn't even hinted at in the Kickstarter? What, you think because you pledged $29 to help a game get made you should get every Shenmue-related content released by YsNet for the life of the company for free? I mean, the digital deluxe version that comes with the season pass costs $75, $46 more than the minimum pledge that included the game, why would you expect to get that season pass?
I've pledged for Kickstarters that had an expensive tier that said you get all future dlc, this Kickstarter didn't have that.
I've pledged for Kickstarters that had an expensive tier that said you get all future dlc, this Kickstarter didn't have that.
It's about treating your backers like people.
Publisher got involved after fans funded Kickstarter. Where they were 20 years before that?
A publisher got involved and infused funds in the project. What's so hard to understand?
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I pledged 100$, the deluxe edition is 75$.
Also disregarding that the whole KS was a total mess before and the season pass wasnt even hinted at all for backers before they announced it when preorders went up.
Yeah it's totally normal that in order to get all content at launch backers should have to buy another copy like good cattle.
Why does Shenmue III even have a season pass? What are they going to do, add extra chapters via DLC?
It's actually pretty logical when you factor in the fact that Deep Silver got onboard as a publisher after the Kickstarter campaign. They want to make as much money as possible and since giving those features for free would ultimately cost money to them, they have no reason to give that up since as a publisher, they didn't get any money from the Kickstarter.
gonna start writing my "the amount of negativity coming from the shenmue community is embarassing" thread now
Shiiiiiit, you're pre-ordering the game before the game even got made. Saying it's just disgusting is being too nice.
I paid $400 and don't care about any of that. You don't speak for those people.
Kickstarter/Slacker backer versions = YS Net
Retail versions = Deep Silver
As the publisher, it's Deep Silver's decision not to offer these things to backers. Much like the Epic deal, it's all on them. Even though the game has almost certainly benefited from Deep Silver's backing, I feel sorry for YS Net who have been dragged through the mud based on decisions made by their publisher.
Man, they should at the very least honor the pre-order bonuses to those who backed the game and will get a copy as a result of their pledge. I can understand not giving the season pass to backers, but as a means to build some really necessary goodwill, they should have thought about including it for the higher tiers.
You know, while I get they aren't required to give any of that stuff out, especially the Season Pass, you could, you know, throw your backers a bone lol
What is the pre-order DLC even anyways, is it anything of consequence or value? Throw that in
What is the pre-order DLC even anyways, is it anything of consequence or value? Throw that in
YS Net choose to partner with them though. Unless they recklessly went in bed with a publisher without having any idea as to what they would do with the project, they're just as much responsible.
I guess that you are fine being treated badly. Just look at other successful Kickstarters like Hollow Knight and what is right way to treat backers.
And for that $100 you got not only the digital copy that $75 deluxe edition gets, but also a physical copy, access to the trial version, and your name in the credits. You pledged more for those things, why should you get free dlc that other people have to pay for?
Regardless what was promised it's not actually costing them anything to give backers these bonuses. I'm mean not even the pre-order bonus? These people funded the fucking game.
I blame YS Net 100% for the bullshit with this project. I hate seeing them being given a pass.
Not surprised about the Season Pass even though I think people who got the KS Collectors Edition and up should have got it. The pre-order bonus not being given though? How low can one go. That's a whole new level to the crappy practice of giving different retailers different bonuses to try and get people to buy multiple copies.
It's funny really. I've backed over a hundred projects on Kickstarter at this point. I think the idea of it is great. I've managed to mostly avoid failures by only participating in ones that look like they know what they're doing, but sometimes it's unavoidable, 2 or 3 did fail. That's fine though, projects fail, it happens. None of those failures have been as much of a disappointment as this kickstarter turned out to be, I expected better. My bad for thinking they might care about the people who helped fund their project, that's just expecting far too much clearly.
It's funny really. I've backed over a hundred projects on Kickstarter at this point. I think the idea of it is great. I've managed to mostly avoid failures by only participating in ones that look like they know what they're doing, but sometimes it's unavoidable, 2 or 3 did fail. That's fine though, projects fail, it happens. None of those failures have been as much of a disappointment as this kickstarter turned out to be, I expected better. My bad for thinking they might care about the people who helped fund their project, that's just expecting far too much clearly.
You know, that physical copy that only comes with a shitty epic launcher exe on the disk. People didn't pay extra for that.
Nah, fuck em. They chose to willingly partner up with Deep Silver. They deserve everything that's coming to them.
It just seems counterintuitive for a game like this.
I know I'm not playing the game until all that content is out, so I won't be buying it until then either.
Not sure why you'd bring up the physical copy since the physical copy is actually a download code and the EGS launcher for people on PC which is another broken campaign promise
Funny you say this because people seem to be in a "muh corporation/game dev" mood today. How stingy do you have to be to not throw in the pre-order stuff? Looks like the bean counters took over the KS.
Exactly. While it's not mandatory in a legal way, it just good will and good pr that cost literally nothing.
Well tbh, A Hat in Times DLCs are stretch goals. I really think they should've been free for those who bought it later too but I don't know. Same with Shovel Knight but they did it better, everyone gets all content but price will get higher with time. What Hollow Knight and Oculus did was awesome. Shame I didn't back either of them. ;)
Anyway this whole Shenmue debacle sucks and it's sad as fuck that they can't even give the pre-order DLCs.
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I could get that, without my names for 60$ and right now I dont even need my names in the credits anymore with the clusterfuck that it was.
Besides that as a "believer" in the project, maybe the KS creator should show some good will after all the other fuck ups.
You know what else they promised? Steam keys.
You know what else they promised? Game data on the disc.
"bUt tHeY dId nOt PrOmIsE tHeM iN tHe oRiGiNaL kS", but promised them still later over and over again.
Also we do not even know what kind of physical copy the Shenmue 3 one will be. When they announced it, people were still hopeful. Most of my visual novel kickstarters have really huge and robust physical boxes. The physical edition costs 30$ more. Now we most likely will get a 1$ dvd case with a printed out cover and a egs.exe burned on them...
Because people paid for the game when it was little more than a shoddily cobbled together tech demo that could end up not happening rather than wait for it to be a fully finished, commercially released product. This isn't rocket science.
The amount of people who are willing to get prodded around like brainless cattle because its fucking Shenmue is pretty staggering. This whole campaign has been a continual clusterfuck. Anyone who dropped 3 or 4 digits on this game deserve a bit more respect from both publisher and developer.
Why would you possibly think you would if it wasn't in the Kickstarter? Just because you paid more than the base price of the game with the promise of completely different rewards? In that case should people who pre-order also get all the Kickstarter rewards for people who pledged the equivalent amount?
That entitles you to every Shenmue-related content YsNet releases for the future of the company for free, because you chose to take a known risk to help them get the initial game made? I mean now they want people to pay them to develop dlc, it seems weird to expect that for free.
What a slap in the face to backers who made this game possible. Shenmue III's Kickstarter just gets worse and worse.
I can't wait to get my refund.
I can't wait to get my refund.
