The sailors part does come very early if you know what you're doing, but at the time nobody did and I remember myself wandering for a few days before they came up.First 2 hours of Shenmue~ instantly hearing really really bad (in varying ways!) vocal audio quality making me wanna turn my DC on an check if thats how it always was! The controls however are as stiff as they ever were that I do know. Getting shat on by bikers and schoolgirls is just like old times!
Is this kitten possessed by a demon? That shadow is terrifying!
btw Iwao harping on about carrots like a true tool. Farmers picked 'em for the people that want 'em an thats not everyone >.<! Oh Darts 7 I've never forgotten you or your jingle. Now to claim the highscore on the leaderboards... oh wait there are none anymore.
Did people just not play beyond the first hour or so? The sailors bit is super early an I was already onto looking for Charlie within minutes of it coming up! Yet its all peeps remember of the game.
Any moves in particular worth training up? I remember combat being both janky and sparse an training not really mattering. But its a fun way ta kill time (watching meters fill up!) so I may as well find a few that're worthwhile right?
The voice quality in the re-releases is lower than the originals, yes. For some reason they decided not the keep the files in their original format, but instead convert them to platform native formats in equivalent quality. Compressing compressed audio is never a good idea. There are mods to solve this for the PC version, but if you're on console you're stuck.
Yeah. Same. Grew up with PAL so didn't have to endure Shenmue II with the horrible English at least. Same with the first Yakuza, awful dub on PS2. As you say it is less annoying simply not understanding what they say.
tbf I don't know what I'm doing aside from I guess lucking out an chatting up the right people/wandering past the right locations.
Counterpoint: training in Shenmue II sux. I like it better in the first game since broken or not its a good (free!) way to pass time so I've been doing some anyhow but geez, the camera constantly moving an making my inputs be the opposite of what I'm intending ta do sure does bite!
Aha so they are better in my memories! For once "nostalgia" isn't a lie lol.
Oh ya the camera. I mentioned how annoying it could be while training but in actual combat its downright hostile to the player. An maybe this is just a Shenmue Collection thing, but I had a move assigned to L2 and while pressing it during a fight it wouldn't always perform that move an instead what seemed like random moves. I've seen such highlight reels of peeps being good at the games bad combat but lets be real, it is possible to become good at bad stuff in games an that doesn't make it not bad. I'ma keep holding out hope Shenmue 3 makes it fun/less bad or lets ya skip it entirely.
I too mostly enjoy the combat in Shenmue. On top of the camera issues I also noticed that several moves e.g. Pit blow, change input from I->II (in this case FWD+X -> BACK FWD+X) which is a bit of a shame.
Uh... opinions on the combat in the originals aside (I think it's very rewarding to learn as it's basically Virtua Fighter-lite, and once you've mastered counters it's a martial arts god simulator), it's been rebuilt from scratch in Shenmue III and addresses a lot of problems I personally had in the originals.
Wait no its not a bad part by any means! I meant player direction in that you're given less info on how to progress than normal!
I loved that scene, the music certainly adds to it. Plus I'd spent the last in game hour scouring Dobuita for new dialogue to see where Ryo goes with the conversation (if you don't speak to Ono, you can speak to Saijo in Bar Yokosuka for some dialogue, or Akemi for a pretty funny line about her riding a motorcycle.
I am nearly done with Kowloon and have had no need for training, if that helps.
She will be missed in III.
It helps that punchpunchpunching allows a skill-less scrub like me to beat the game once again but it doesn't help any in terms of upholding the combat systems honor. Training being unnecessary wholly undermines its reason for being in the game at all. The crap camera undermines whatever they were going for with their combat system. Theres really not even any point in learning new moves! Which is dumb in a kungfu focused game x.x!
U can probably mash through, and sadly many of the more major fights are based on dodging and then unleashing a quick combo. When possible it is however far more satisfactory to e.g. hind blow/machine gun fist/counter elbow assault enemies. Apart from the looks they also do a bit more dmg.
Using Special K is frowned upon by the modding community; there are dedicated modding tools for these games that won't have weird compatibility issues because they're not injecting textures over the top of ones that are already loaded. (And you also won't have to re-texture the same thing multiple times) Check out this thread for instructions on how to properly do texture mods:
