Bunch of lying prics.
The amount of times this bears repeating is ridiculous.You just don't get it, do you? It isn't solely about the launcher. It is about Epic shitty business practices by moneyhatting publishers that were going to release their game in Steam and other storefronts. It is because Epic has released a subpar product that is laughable in 2019.
You guys need to learn the lesson, NEVER kickstart anything.
The developers of the games you kickstart do not consider you stakeholders, do not consider you shareholders, they don't even have to consider you a possible future consumer since you already bought the product.
so you care about a decent amount of egs exclusive games thenI don't care about EGS exclusive games with the exceptions of those advertised to be on Steam before being EGS exclusive AND games being Kickstarted and being listed on Steam as potentially available.
Remember when Valve introduced the Source engine and it was supposed to revolutionize gaming? And the last notable game to use it was Titanfall? Yeah, that didn't turn out too good.What's up with Valve? Have they released any news regarding this issue?
Epic with its Unreal engine is winning imo.
I mean if someones going to get mad at looking at a list of truths, some pot shots and some out dated information (regional pricing and 3rd party keys are supported now), that's on them if you ask me, frankly.I know the EGS is pretty bad, but don't use this picture. It just makes you look bad.
That's ignoring the fact that many kickstarters continue funding after the fact, which are often referred to pre-orders, which indeed often promise things, like a Steam key in this case.It was designed for people to fund projects that might not get investment otherwise.
You can KS events, movies, and other things inherently not "pre-orderable."
Here's a KS for a cafe: https://www.kickstarter.com/project...ondon?ref=section-food-craft-featured-project
When you KS a game, you are gifting a developer cash to make the game. There are "rewards" which may include a preorder, but may not. It's very common to see a $30 reward that include a preorder, but a $10 reward that just includes the soundtrack or a thank-you.
Can mods start giving week bans to people who comment in Epic threads without reading the Epic threads?
"I have nothing against this thing that just created a problem I now have."I have nothing against the Epic Games Store, devs can put their games where they want and the exclusivity deals gives devs more funding. HOWEVER, I kickstarted for a Steam code, the Kickstarter specifically said it was for Steam. I paid for what I paid for. They can either give me a Steam copy or give me my money back. This is the only game I ever crowd funded, I won't be doing it again.
I guess if we want to ignore all those Kickstarters that were successful and didn't dissapoint thier backers like this
I think it's likely everyone that backed the game will get a choice of which PC version to download, but at retail it'll be an Epic Games Store exclusive on PC indefinitely, with subscription services allowed to have the game after its launch window.
Does anyone have sales figures for Metro Exodus?
Lars Wingefors was happy with the blossoming relationship with Epic Games Store, so why is any of this really a surprise?Having lived through it with Metro, Deep Silver had to have known what was coming.
I still don't get why some people are so weird about other launchers. While I do have most games on Steam, I still have games on GoG, Origin and Epic as well. It's hardly an massive inconvenience to click another icon just to load the odd game from time to time.
They already posted on Twitter that isn't the case.I think it's likely everyone that backed the game will get a choice of which PC version to download, but at retail it'll be an Epic Games Store exclusive on PC indefinitely, with subscription services allowed to have the game after its launch window.
Does anyone have sales figures for Metro Exodus?
I'll just say that despite being a backer who picked Steam and being fully aware of all of EGS's shortcomings, I'm not personally bothered by this exclusivity deal.
Hell, it might even result in the game being better than it otherwise would've been. Maybe the game was delayed because they got a sudden influx of Epic money and want to put it to good use. Or maybe the publisher's just pocketing it, who knows? Either way, I don't mind.
I mean if someones going to get mad at looking at a list of truths, some pot shots and some out dated information (regional pricing and 3rd party keys are supported now), that's on them if you ask me, frankly.
Why do you think so? The developer is a small company, any improvement to their income is a good thing. In the case of the Epic Game Store, they not only get charged less per sale, but they also don't get charged the Unreal Engine licensing fee. For a game that will sell as many copies as Shenmue III, that amount will make a large difference in how much money the company makes, which can mean a big deal for their ability to survive through their next game's development. If they weren't exclusive to Epic Games Store, they would make a lot less money overall even without any moneyhatting.Deadass they probably paid the entire dev cost for Shenmue 3 to get it
Can mods start giving week bans to people who comment in Epic threads without reading the Epic threads?
It doesn't really invalidate the list. Just edit it out or something.Saying stuff like "Chi-com spying" makes the whole movement against the EGS look childish and racist. There's a lot of shit to say about the EGS, stick to that and don't spew lies.
depend on the persons/compagny, i mean you have an avatar of LOOM and yet im sure you kickstarted Double Fine Adventure back in the days ;)You guys need to learn the lesson, NEVER kickstart anything.
The developers of the games you kickstart do not consider you stakeholders, do not consider you shareholders, they don't even have to consider you a possible future consumer since you already bought the product.
Sorry, coming to this late... what's the big deal with Shenmue and why does it matter that it's just another icon? Anyway, see you never in a PC thread but see you in the next exclusive thread! Cheers
That goes without saying. It's still very much a "pre-order" in the sense that you purchase the product based on what information they're providing, before it's finished and available for consumption.
Nope. Most kickstarters offer specific things for certain amounts of money. It doesn't matter if they don't want to deliver: they must unless they go insolvent.
Sorry, coming to this late... what's the big deal with Shenmue and why does it matter that it's just another icon? Anyway, see you never in a PC thread but see you in the next exclusive thread! Cheers
It was designed for people to fund projects that might not get investment otherwise.
You can KS events, movies, and other things inherently not "pre-orderable."
Here's a KS for a cafe: https://www.kickstarter.com/project...ondon?ref=section-food-craft-featured-project
When you KS a game, you are gifting a developer cash to make the game. There are "rewards" which may include a preorder, but may not. It's very common to see a $30 reward that include a preorder, but a $10 reward that just includes the soundtrack or a thank-you.
Official Staff CommunicationShenmue III backers were offered Steam keys in their backer surveys and the fundraiser concluded before the Epic Games Store even existed. There is no reason to argue that backers were not promised a Steam release with part of their pledge. We are not interested in entertaining the conversation to the contrary, so please drop this line of discussion.
Why do you think so? The developer is a small company, any improvement to their income is a good thing. In the case of the Epic Game Store, they not only get charged less per sale, but they also don't get charged the Unreal Engine licensing fee. For a game that will sell as many copies as Shenmue III, that amount will make a large difference in how much money the company makes, which can mean a big deal for their ability to survive through their next game's development. If they weren't exclusive to Epic Games Store, they would make a lot less money overall even without any moneyhatting.
Why do you think so? The developer is a small company, any improvement to their income is a good thing. In the case of the Epic Game Store, they not only get charged less per sale, but they also don't get charged the Unreal Engine licensing fee. For a game that will sell as many copies as Shenmue III, that amount will make a large difference in how much money the company makes, which can mean a big deal for their ability to survive through their next game's development. If they weren't exclusive to Epic Games Store, they would make a lot less money overall even without any moneyhatting.
Don't have to tell me twice.You guys need to learn the lesson, NEVER kickstart anything.
The developers of the games you kickstart do not consider you stakeholders, do not consider you shareholders, they don't even have to consider you a possible future consumer since you already bought the product.
Yeah, every KS I have backed till now has delivered and I've been very happy with it. With this and other recent ones, I'm very dubious unless KS steps in to clarify.I guess if we want to ignore all those Kickstarters that were successful and didn't dissapoint thier backers like this
Anyone who pledged put their money forward to get a game developed - that's what Kickstarter is. It's a form of patronage. In this case, the game has been fully developed, so the money got you exactly what you spent it on. Now, they are giving all people who pledged free rewards, and you are getting exactly the promised reward too. Just not in the location you were hoping for.