Too much time has elapsed for people to be able to charge back.
Too bad. It'll be interesting to see if this blows up in their faces or not.
Too much time has elapsed for people to be able to charge back.
Yu chose his business partners and was ok with handing over control that would let them dictate to say fuck the backers how is that absolving him from responsibility? but ok...Isn't this a Deep Silver decision? Deep Silver is the publisher, they made this scam. Sure, if Yu Suzuki signed a contract that allowed Deep Silver to do this shit, it's his fault, but that doesn't make him a scammer, he just fucked up.
It's possible Yu Suzuki wanted this exclusivity, but I doubt it.
Ouya didn't participate in anti consumer practicesI understand the EGS hatred, and I agree with it too. But I don't really get how a Shenmue fan would, at the end of the day, give up the opportunity to play the game just because of this. I would've played it on the Ouya if that had been where it was.
Which is what ?Because there is more to the matter than simply just getting the game!
Why ? am i doing something wrong, am i about to be put on the naughty step again ?
He isn't. You're still getting a copy of the game.Yu Suzuki was the one asking for money. If you're asking for money then you better deliver what you promised.
The only thing i can see as a downgrade is controller support, and as a friend pointed out Linux. Too.They are being paid to down grade the platform the game is being sold on.
I think that's a bit of a stretch. TBH. Sorry.It like going on holiday package advertised as a 5 star hotel but being told your now staying in a 1 star hotel but hay your still getting the holiday and no refunds.
Apples and oranges, as GOG is drm free. While both Steam and EGS aren't, unfortunately.People would be mad if they asked a GOG key and got a steam one instead
Sucks, but lol at reactions like this.
I've had no reason to install EGS before now, but fuck it... It's just a launcher for a single player game. I understand they sort of promised Steam, but is it really that big a deal?
No, but it's a predictable reaction to being told you're not getting the exact thing you paid for and that you can't get a refund.This strikes me as an extreme reaction to using a different icon on my desktop
Maybe a little!This might sound over the top but it's how i honestly feel. This sucks.
honestly fuck off, it's easy to see the issues but your trying to pretend that all is well and good with egs. They fucked backers for no reason.Which is what ?
Brand loyalty ?
Why ? am i doing something wrong, am i about to be put on the naughty step again ?
He isn't. You're still getting a copy of the game.
The only thing i can see as a downgrade is controller support, and as a friend pointed out Linux. Too.
Other than that. I honestly don't see the downgrade.
I think that's a bit of a stretch. TBH. Sorry.
Apples and oranges, as GOG is drm free. While both Steam and EGS aren't, unfortunately.
But other than that. I honestly don't see the problem
they are already screwing with their biggest fans by backstabbing them with this decision. This is a bad decision and will be looked at as a major fuck up in the future.Maybe a little!
I mean this is not ideal. In a perfect world it would be available on all platforms, no strings attached. But The game is still being made, and is still available on other hardware. More than that, it looks incredibly faithful to the tone and atmosphere of the original games, something that no game has really recaptured since the old days. I would really caution against a game switching launchers on the PC actually depressing you, and looking instead at the bigger picture; Shenmue 3 is real, exists, and is coming out soon to be playable in your very own hands! Because trust me, as a fan of Megaman Legends knowing I'll never get a sequel to the now 19-year cliffhanger to my favorite gaming series in the world, it could be so, so much worse.
Cool, thanks.I went to the bottom of their support page and there's a report button.
I'm going through the comments and people are sending reports of fraud.
But I don't really get how a Shenmue fan would, at the end of the day, give up the opportunity to play the game just because of this.
Sometimes I wonder if you people are deliberately feigning ignorance, want to rile up people who are already angry or just want to close your eyes and don't learn why EGS is an inferior product and why people are pissed off.Which is what ?
Brand loyalty ?
Why ? am i doing something wrong, am i about to be put on the naughty step again ?
He isn't. You're still getting a copy of the game.
The only thing i can see as a downgrade is controller support, and as a friend pointed out Linux. Too.
Other than that. I honestly don't see the downgrade.
I think that's a bit of a stretch. TBH. Sorry.
Apples and oranges, as GOG is drm free. While both Steam and EGS aren't, unfortunately.
Which is what ?
Brand loyalty ?
Why ? am i doing something wrong, am i about to be put on the naughty step again ?
Apples and oranges, as GOG is drm free. While both Steam and EGS aren't, unfortunately.
This is all kinds of fucked up. How can anyone defend this.Got a response from my Kickstarter message, skimmed the last few pages and didn't see it:
This strikes me as an extreme reaction to using a different icon on my desktop
Apples and oranges, as GOG is drm free. While both Steam and EGS aren't, unfortunately.
It's the typical disgusting "Fuck you, got mine!" attitude.Because you just went out of your way to, point by point, dismiss everyones problems with this. It's not that you "don't see the problem," it's that you never cared about what the problem is to begin with.
No, but it's a predictable reaction to being told you're not getting the exact thing you paid for and that you can't get a refund.
Got a response from my Kickstarter message, skimmed the last few pages and didn't see it:
Oh wow, no refunds? That's bonkers.Got a response from my Kickstarter message, skimmed the last few pages and didn't see it:
Isn't that bad though? People are mad at EGS for making the game exclusive, but isn't steam indirectly doing the same thing by tethering their games so tightly with steam tech unless devs put in the massive effort to unbind it from the store, which not all games can afford to do?It's not implied, that is literally what happens. You see this with GoG galaxy releases, too.
This is honestly ridiculous and the most hyperbolic thing I've read in this thread. I understand being pissed it's not coming to Steam but putting this decision on Yu Suzuki and calling him a "scam artist" is insane and laughable.
Official Staff CommunicationShenmue III backers were offered Steam keys in their backer surveys and the fundraiser concluded before the Epic Games Store even existed. There is no reason to argue that backers were not promised a Steam release with part of their pledge. We are not interested in entertaining the conversation to the contrary, so please drop this line of discussion.
You guys really believe the developer made this decision and not the shady company that's publishing the game, the same company that's done this with a couple other of their big games? You should really reconsider slandering Yu Suzuki.
Boy, Sweeney really knows how to capture the goodwill of his core audience, damn.
Why go after kickstarted games coming to steam. Those people are invested in the product and platform. For fucks sake.
All Steamworks features are opt-in, including the DRM. The only reason anyone would spend a lot of time stripping Steam features from a game would be because they chose to put them there in the first place.Isn't that bad though? People are mad at EGS for making the game exclusive, but isn't steam indirectly doing the same thing by tethering their games so tightly with steam tech unless devs put in the massive effort to unbind it from the store, which not all games can afford to do?
Also note, I don't game on PC, I'm just trying to understand the landscape is all.
honestly fuck off, it's easy to see the issues but your trying to pretend that all is well and good with egs. They fucked backers for no reason.
they are already screwing with their biggest fans by backstabbing them with this decision. This is a bad decision and will be looked at as a major fuck up in the future.
well there's no helping some people I guessWhich is what ?
Brand loyalty ?
Why ? am i doing something wrong, am i about to be put on the naughty step again ?
He isn't. You're still getting a copy of the game.
The only thing i can see as a downgrade is controller support, and as a friend pointed out Linux. Too.
Other than that. I honestly don't see the downgrade.
I think that's a bit of a stretch. TBH. Sorry.
Apples and oranges, as GOG is drm free. While both Steam and EGS aren't, unfortunately.
Because there's demonstrated fan interest in those games and a guaranteed audience
It's more of a sure bet than just grabbing whatever tbh
While the game still has a Steam page, it will have a forum.Does a Shenmue III Steam forum already exist so we can at least go there for the inevitable trouble shooting and mods that fix all the shit broken with the game?
The only thing i can see as a downgrade is controller support, and as a friend pointed out Linux. Too.
Other than that. I honestly don't see the downgrade.
Isn't that bad though? People are mad at EGS for making the game exclusive, but isn't steam indirectly doing the same thing by tethering their games so tightly with steam tech unless devs put in the massive effort to unbind it from the store, which not all games can afford to do?
Is Shenmue III a single player only game? Is there much difference between EGS and Steam when it comes to offline games?
Is Shenmue III a single player only game? Is there much difference between EGS and Steam when it comes to offline games?
The damage is clearly done. I don't think they can do anything to calm the masses. Really unfortunate. It fucking sucks as a very hardcore Shenmue fan and admirer of the developer. I'm distressed to be honest. :(
Cause they can. I don't see realistically how this will have any repercussion for them. Only if they decide to do Shenmue 4 through another kickstarter is it going to affect them.Man how fucking dumb can they be, how did they think they can get away with this shit.