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Shenmue Is A Masterpiece And You're An Insult To Gamers! (Commentocracy) - Jim Sterling

Oct 27, 2017
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Saying people enjoyed Shenmue just for its graphics however is factually wrong.
Yeah, and it's a good example of why Shenmue fans get so annoyed. We're constantly insulted for liking the game with talk of playing just for graphics or nostalgia or some other shit. It's okay to not like the game as it's clearly not for everyone, but to act like fans are deluding themselves for enjoying it is just trolling.
 
Nov 3, 2017
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Thank you for the laugh, I have never seen this act before.

What a bunch of clowns those gamers are.

Are these dudes in the comments serious? 100 plats dude is straight up embarrassing, like get another hobby or something.
LEAVE MY HOBBY ALONE
 

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Oct 26, 2017
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I kinda want to see Jim's line of herbal supplements now
I would honestly pay money to see him walk up to game devs and start screaming things the way Alex does to Bernie Sanders or Marco Rubio. It would be comedy gold and take gaming journalism to the next level.
 
Nov 3, 2017
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I had a great time with Shenmue and I disagreed with many of the points from Jim's review.

Know what I did next? I went on with my day and continued enjoying what I like.
Right, because you are a well adjusted person.

The rest of these "gamers"/"gamergaters" need their throat stamped on in public any chance it can happen.

Jim is doing a public service.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Shenmue is a grotesque waste of time, and is interesting from only the most clinical perspective. It's one thing for a game to establish a sense of place and explore the mundane, it's another thing entirely for the game to make wait for fucking ever to grab your cruise ship tickets, then just fuck with you by going "oh can you come tomorrow instead" for no other reason than the designers going "Isn't that annoying?! Isn't that frustrating?! Just like real life, maaaannnn!"

I take zero issue with Jim giving it shit.
I remember Game Informer back during their GTA III review throwing shade on Shenmue when comparing the two.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Agreed! He is always offensive in his videos, and when something comes back to him he makes videos like these. Those who makes such comments are also allowed to have an opinion, it's not you alone Jim Sterling! And if you can't handle that with your provocating and offensive videos, than fucking stop making offensive and provocating videos!!!
Nailed it on the head.
 

Iwao

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yakuza is like Shenmue but shit. It doesn't even have a weather/night cycle, NPC scheldues and who can be properly talked to, most buildings can't even be entered and let you observe items with your hands.

In reality,
Both games are effective at what they try to do, and Shenmue is instead a detective/life sim game and comparing them so simplistically is very dull.
The original video was about Jim getting worked up about people who have liked a game for 20 years and feeling the need to review what's like a life sim game when he doesn't even like that genre.
It doesn't make one right because they have different preferences for enjoying a video game. Saying people enjoyed Shenmue just for its graphics however is factually wrong.
They're creating this disingenuous narrative, and despite Shenmue having objective qualities that make a good and well made video game within its genre. I can't help but feel that maybe part of it is because they are Jim fans and want to agree with everything he says.
 

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Honest question, kind of inspired by the "What's up with ERA and Giant Bomb?" thread...

What's up with ERA and Jim Sterling? It seems like every time he puts up a video there's a new thread with a couple hundred replies.
He is pathetic but not pathetic in a sympathetic way which pisses me off even more. Like he's actively smug about the fact he is a pathetic human being and an absolute scumsucker with the laziest content imaginable. I can't describe it really. He's just a revolting internet personality. I don't comment on these threads usually tho.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I like Shenmue, but the fans act like it's some holy grail. I don't really like Jim Sterling, but asshole Youtube comments deserve videos like this. This is pretty good.
 

Iwao

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Oct 25, 2017
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I mean shenmue is a bad game, but I understand why people like it. People are salty bitches overall.
As if what you said is some definitive consensus, and acting as those who like it are wrong for liking what can be considered good things. LMAO! In what capacity is it a bad videogame? Is it bad mechanics? Bad visuals? Bad story? Bad UI? Bad value proposition? Bad music? Bad voice acting... yeah I'd probably agree with anyone who brings up the voice acting ;)

I like Shenmue, but the fans act like it's some holy grail. I don't really like Jim Sterling, but asshole Youtube comments deserve videos like this. This is pretty good.
There are those people, and then there are those people who appreciate that there is no other game out there like Shenmue despite all the attempts to critically homogenise it, especially by comparing it to Yakuza. There are super-fans of everything, dude.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Honest question, kind of inspired by the "What's up with ERA and Giant Bomb?" thread...

What's up with ERA and Jim Sterling? It seems like every time he puts up a video there's a new thread with a couple hundred replies.
He used to be really well liked, but sometime last year the tables turned and so now basically every thread about a video of his gets a tonne of posts by people who hate him. I don't personally think Jim changed, but people got tired of his shtick I guess. His shtick being ranty sometimes controversial videos about games and/or the industry. He also got a lot of haters for infamously giving BotW a 7.

Admittedly I don't watch his videos as much as I used to for a similar reason, and I don't always agree with what he says (as one can gather from my avatar...) but hating on him for it seems rather silly. Especially since, they're actually helping him by giving his threads more publicity in keeping bumping them. :P
 
As if what you said is some definitive consensus, and acting as those who like it are wrong for liking what can be considered good things. LMAO! In what capacity is it a bad videogame? Is it bad mechanics? Bad visuals? Bad story? Bad UI? Bad value proposition? Bad music? Bad voice acting... yeah I'd probably agree with anyone who brings up the voice acting ;)
Lmao ooookay then......
 
Mar 21, 2018
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No-one is forcing anyone to get riled up, however alot of Jim's content is intentionally inflammatory, in the title he literally calls it a rubbish game
I like La Mulana 2 a whole lot. Definitely my game of the year.
If he makes a video hating it tomorrow, calling it rubbish, guess what?

I'd not make these comments. Normal people that aren't unhinged gamers don't freak out if a game they like gets called rubbish.

Low hanging fruits, sure, but deserved shots nontheless.

(Again, I don't even like Jims stuff...)

They're creating this disingenuous narrative
There is no "narrative". Some people just don't like Shenmue. It's not a big deal and you should get used to it.
You will find that a great many people don't like (X game).

Insert any game into X. Can be bloodborne, can be a mario game, can be Ocarina of time.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, I just played through it for the first time since like 1999 and despite being hyped and nostalgic it was a thoroughly awful experience, it's baffling bad as a game. It's not without its charm but damn.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Gave me a good chuckle. Been a while since he's done one of these videos so I didn't expect to see anymore, so I guess I should say thanks to you for being such easily rattled marks, Shenmue fanboys! :P

Shenmue is like Yakuza but bad instead of good.
Best description for it right here. Almost everything about Shenmue's gameplay is pretty bad.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Weirdly enough this whole kerfufle has me more interested in trying out Shenmue. Is it playable or should I wait for it to get patched?
There's quite a lot of issues that requires patching but I was lucky enough to run into almost no issues beside maybe a single crash.
I'd probably wait though if you wanna play it safe, that said both games were perfectly playable here.
 
Nov 12, 2017
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Imagine getting this worked up over someone dressing as an 18th century Duke to make fun of man-babies who can't handle criticism and don't know how to spell.

leave video games alon lol.
I still really can´t fathom how people don´t get the irony of this.

Jim is litterally making a video making fun of people because he can´t handle criticism of his work. It´s the entire basis of this video..

Like another person mentioned in this thread: He is, himself, the very thing he attacks in this video. Why are people giving any of the persons involved in this video any recognition? It´s just unconstructive whining from both sides imo.
 
Jun 23, 2018
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I'm glad to see the Duke survived the consumption. I just like the framing a hammy 16th-century aristocrat and his beleaguered manservant responding to hate mail from the socially maladjusted.

I played it when it came out and I thought Shenmue was interesting for the time it had many interesting elements and succeeded in setting a unique atmosphere that truly stood out. That being said as a game there is a debate to be had there I really think you have to be in the right mindset to enjoy it. I will say I think it's dated and a product of its time in a lot of ways.
 
Nov 2, 2017
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Austin, TX
Jim really likes to antagonize fans of Sega games and then gets himself riled up when they get upset at him for it

I usually enjoy his videos but this one’s not for me
 
Oct 29, 2017
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I missed his commentocracy vids! This isn’t his best one, but it still cracked me up!

Hope we’ll see them a bit more regularily going forward. It might be a bit of a one trick pony, but it’s a great trick! And in this era of extremist bigotry being normalised amongst gamer communities, it serves as a constant (and really funny) reminder of how low these communities can sink!
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I don't like this guy or his videos so every time I see a thread with his name in the title, I drop by to make sure you guys don't forget.

I miss the old days when he had fewer offensive opinions and more Boglins.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Could he be any more self-satisfied, superior and smug? I get it, I really do, but he’s just so self-serving and seems to think he’s bestowing some greater knowledge that only he is privvy to.

Easily the most annoying, unlikable and irritating persona in gaming. And that really saying something.
 

Dice

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Oct 25, 2017
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i'm pretty sure Shenmue was a bit of a mixed-bad even out the door on Dreamcast. Like it got reviewed well enough, but it was always pretty awkward — and it was certainly bound to get worse after so many years.

I think Jim's not trying to be hyper-critical (well...), but Commentocracy only reveals how far people have their head up the buttholes about their own hobby. He's satirizing how seriously people take this "entertainment hobby" and sound like they've been PERSONALLY offended as if they made the game. It's fine to be passionate about something you love, but it's so easy to take it too far (and now we got an extreme culture on the internet that goes into harassing people).

Yes Jim has a chip on his shoulder (for christ's sake though: He uses red and black and a logo that makes his site look like evil government propaganda and his slogan is "Thank god for me"), but he's used his personality to hoist up against other big industry thoughts/opinions.
 
Feb 2, 2018
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Denmark
I love Jim Sterling, in the brotherly way one can love a guy one has never met. He's funny and I can rarely fault what he says when you get to core of what he's saying. The way he says it is bound to piss off various people though, but that's part of the fun. He's not perfect, like everybody else, so there's a few times where he misses the point a bit, but overall he's quite spot-on in my opinion.

Speaking of Shenmue, I never played the originals. But as someone who plays a lot of old games I didn't catch the first time around, and finding them enjoyable, I can't for the life of the me see anything I'd want to play when watching footage of Shenmue. These games look downright terrible to me. I can see that what they did in their time helped shape things to come and that's commendable and important. But I don't see anything I could tolerate playing today.
 
Nov 24, 2017
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I am certain plenty of people that hate Shenmue wrote in because they knew he would make a video trashing the fans. I have seen people discussing doing just that for other games. Jim always falls for it because most gamers are stupid enough to make it all seem super plausible.

Jim is pretty insufferable when he is trying to be funny, is making weird voices or whatever. I really wish he would focus on proper sensible stuff because he honestly makes tons of great points in loads of videos and articles, but then he immediately follows it up with a picture of semen on his face (I would suggest not doing an image search for that!).
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I like Shenmue, but the fans act like it's some holy grail. I don't really like Jim Sterling, but asshole Youtube comments deserve videos like this. This is pretty good.
Are only certain games' fans allowed to act like their favorite game is some holy grail ?

i'm pretty sure Shenmue was a bit of a mixed-bad even out the door on Dreamcast. Like it got reviewed well enough, but it was always pretty awkward — and it was certainly bound to get worse after so many years.

I think Jim's not trying to be hyper-critical (well...), but Commentocracy only reveals how far people have their head up the buttholes about their own hobby. He's satirizing how seriously people take this "entertainment hobby" and sound like they've been PERSONALLY offended as if they made the game. It's fine to be passionate about something you love, but it's so easy to take it too far (and now we got an extreme culture on the internet that goes into harassing people).
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Its one thing to bash the game. It is another thing to constantly imply the fanbase don't know what good games are and only enjoyed Shenmue because of the graphics. Its like you aren't allowed to praise Shenmue because it is "objectively" a bad game. Am not defending the trolls commenting on that video. Heck I highly doubt that many Shenmue fans even replied for him to make video like that but w/e.

But go see any Shenmue related thread it will be filled with smug comments like " Shenmue is a trash game and people who praise it are deluded "

Like no shit a 20 year old game will have issues when compared to games of today , but what exactly is the point of saying the second part ? Why cant people just call it a bad game and leave it at that. But NO we gotta downplay all the people saying its good too. Because " Muh opinion is objective and yours is not ".

The hate Shenmue receives is so weird considering how niche it is , I guess people just hate smaller fanbases praising their games as the best. It always has to be some big mainstream hundred million seller that are allowed to be praised.
 
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