practical FXWhy was waterworld expensive to make? It was just mostly water
practical FXWhy was waterworld expensive to make? It was just mostly water
huh, little surprised honestly, figured he would've relished the chance to do so.Doesn't mention it, other than a clip of Kiryu and the young girl in the video.
Yes, it is. But it's also extremely slow paced, has clunky controls, doesn't really have a lot of traditionally engaging gameplay, and features an incredibly poor English-Language dub, which makes it an easy mark 15+ years later. But for some reason some of us really, really love it. It's bizarre Sega spent so much money on it considering what it ended up being, but I'm glad they did.Isnt' Shenmue like a trailblazer open world game or something, maybe it should be the Bladerunner of games (also a flop)
Doesn't mention it, other than a clip of Kiryu and the young girl in the video.
this feels like the opposite of what jim usually preaches.
small game with small budget got made because fans wanted it and fans are happy with what they got. where's the problem here?
He mentions it near the end? How Yakuza basically evolved and makes Shenmue is "obsolete".
Terrific. Nothing worse than him peddling that moronic, shitty view. I like some of his stuff but he really needs to shut up if he's gonna just talk out of his ass on this one... As if he'd actually wanted to do a fair comparison of the games, he'd realise they are not similar outside of some superficial differences...He mentions it near the end? How Yakuza basically evolved and makes Shenmue is "obsolete".
Nope. Which sorta destroys his analogy.
My thing is obviously he likes to beat down on a niche series but what's up with the factual incorrect shit he is spewing? This dude literally pulled the Japanese sales to validate his hate for the series. Really weak
No, it came out in a recent interview with IGN Japan that the budget totaled around $12 million. Less than either Shenmue I or II and most modern games.
No, it came out in a recent interview with IGN Japan that the budget totaled around $12 million. Less than either Shenmue I or II and most modern games.
That gotta be one of the most hilariously sad things to happen to Shenmue.Jim Sterling's factually wrong when it comes to the funding of the game (and a few other subjects as well). That's what you get when you take unsubstantiated claims and rumors and state them as facts.
As I said in another topic, Epic's money didn't go towards the game's development for what I've heard. It went to Deep Silver.
You need to reread the definition of objective analysis. This video is absolutely slathered in Jim's subjective view on Shenmue.This was an amusing video. I can't disagree with anything said, after all, much of it was objective analysis and after playing Shenmue last year, I put off playing II indefinitely. I was not impressed to put it lightly.
I would like to add a couple things though. While the analysis is largely objective I feel it runs too close to cynicism, which is certainly how fans will interpret the clout given to it's cost versus the value. Regardless of how the first game failed to grab me, I find the lack of 'evolution' charming. Rather it be down to Yu Suzuki's inability or unwillingess to compromise on what he or his fans want, that strikes a chord with me. These are value judgments that could easily be as immaterial to others as the dollar cost is to me.
I've been mulling over trying the series again with Shenmue II. I find the world, characters and idiosyncratic limitations of either to be uniquely charming. I just despised the pacing of it all in the first game. Not to be contrarian but much of what is displayed here of Shenmue III actually made me more interested to start Shenmue II on the way to III although I'm given pause by the claim of another cliff hanger at the end of III given the series' uh, uncertain future.
Good and funny video with lots of context I didn't have with the series.
The first two games were the most expensive games of all time and it took them 15+ years to find anyone to find the third game—for much less money. Many of the mechanics are not necessarily outdated but by design.Honestly I am confused by this series When Shenmue III was announced I somehow thought it would be a big thing. The fact publisher couldn't afford funding it and all, I thought it would be big and ambitious. Instead, we got a title with outdated graphics and mechanics.
Not really. Shenmue's importance is largely exaggerated by its fans.Isnt' Shenmue like a trailblazer open world game or something, maybe it should be the Bladerunner of games (also a flop)
Not really. Shenmue's importance is largely exaggerated by its fans.
And all of the critics and writers and game designers who cite its influence.Not really. Shenmue's importance is largely exaggerated by its fans.
I am just saying why does one game's existence negate the others, even if one is supposedly better than the other? I don't see that logic being applied to the thousands of RPGs or action games released every year.As my avatar shows, I'm a huge fan of both Shenmue and Yakuza. And while there are similarities, the two series are also very different.
Even if Yakuza is superior to Shenmue, I'm not sure why the argument becomes: Shenmue shouldn't exist. Can't two games in similar genres exist at the same time? Why does the idea an "inferior Yakuza shouldn't exist" become the fact?
For the Shenmue III portions of the video Jim discusses the money the game generated from crowdfunding/the Epic Games deal/etc... along with delays for added features and ideas vs the final product/overall reception.
That doesn't answer the question of Shenmue's budget size.For the Shenmue III portions of the video Jim discusses the money the game generated from crowdfunding/the Epic Games deal/etc... along with delays for added features and ideas vs the final product/overall reception.
it's because i was sold a bill of goods with shenmueIn an industry where lots of fans and critics harshly criticize games for a plethora of reasons (games following a trend, abuse of mtx, gaas, all AAA feeling samey) I will never understand why a game who although has lots of big flaws (the 3 games)but that also at its time was pretty revolutionary and now is a game that you can rarely findfind anywhere manages to get so much vitriol and hate like Shenmue does
Like I can formulate so many theories
- Does people hate the game after Yu Suzuki/fans promised this out of this world game but that in the end under delivered
- Does people hate Shenmue fans showing everywhere selling the good aspects of this series?
- Does people still hate SEGA from the console wars era
- Does people hate this series thinking that it was responsible of killing SEGA
- Does people feel betrayed with the EGS fiasco?
Like for me this game with all his flaws at worst deserves to be mocked for being overrated/boring and then move on, but I feel that there is an alarming amount of people who looks actively happy to see this game fail
Of course not, individuals are inspired and influenced by all sorts, Shenmue is in that bucket and is definitely among the games that devs pull from.I guess all the developers who think the same must be exaggerating too.
And all of the critics and writers and game designers who cite its influence.
You need to reread the definition of objective analysis. This video is absolutely slathered in Jim's subjective view on Shenmue.