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Eolz

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, if you're in europe, blame Deep Silver on this one. Extremely short runs, they've done a poor job since they've replaced NISA.
 

daevious

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Oct 25, 2017
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And yet I'd still take them over Ghostlight, who released Devil Survivor Overclocked two years later than both NA and Japan while created bugs that didn't exist in any other version.
 

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So just fair warning to those that might have recently started following SMT: Don't expect anything on SMTV at E3. There's a possibility that they could have something in Nintendo's video presentation, but I would seriously not bank on it. Atlus likes to show stuff on their own terms for the most part. The reveal of what we came to know as SMTV was part of the Nintendo Switch Conference, but that was more the exception than the rule, and even so we didn't get the proper reveal of it until an Atlus event.
Yup! That's the way it was for P5 too if I recall correctly.
 

FLCL

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Oct 27, 2017
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So... Apparently I own a digital copy of SMTIV:A and forgot about it. Been wanting to play it for a long time and yesterday I turned on my 3DS for the first time since I bought Switch and was confused when I saw the icon. Had 2h of gameplay but started a new game because I remember nothing. Feels good to play SMT again!

Also, when do you guys think we will see more of SMT V?
 

BlackJace

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Oct 27, 2017
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We'll be waiting for an in depth look, that's for sure. We might see the logo in a sizzle reel, but that's about all I expect. It sounds to me like they've just begun full development recently.
 
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HylianSeven

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We'll be waiting for an in depth look, that's for sure. We might see the logo in a sizzle reel, but that's about all I expect. It sounds to me like they've just begun full development recently.
If I'm not mistaken, they said it was in full development in starting in February. But yeah I agree and I think at most we will see a logo and a "Yep, SMTV is gonna be on Switch."
 

BlackJace

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Oct 27, 2017
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If I'm not mistaken, they said it was in full development in starting in February. But yeah I agree and I think at most we will see a logo and a "Yep, SMTV is gonna be on Switch."

Yeah I'm not entirely sure myself about how far along they are. I mean with so much stuff coming out, Atlus can take as long as they need.
 
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HylianSeven

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Yeah I'm not entirely sure myself about how far along they are. I mean with so much stuff coming out, Atlus can take as long as they need.
They could always port/remake Nocturne just to tide us over in the long wait for SMTV ;)

do it Atlus, even if it has to take a Strange Journey art style hit, it's worth it to have it on Switch.
 

Eolz

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think we'll see more of SMT V this fall. Not TGS because they don't care about that obviously, but Atlus seems to like this period for news/trailers.
 

Opa-Pa

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Oct 25, 2017
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I wouldn't expect anything before October-March. Every time they talk about the game they make sure to clarify that it's very early in development, so it's still far away IMO.

I wouldn't mind some promotional art to get a grasp of the art direction tho... I wanna be disappointed already.
 
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HylianSeven

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I actually have to wonder...are there any demons that weren't drawn by Kaneko in any games pre-SMTIV?
 

Eirikr

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Oct 25, 2017
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I actually have to wonder...are there any demons that weren't drawn by Kaneko in any games pre-SMTIV?

In that they have official illustrations (which leaves out the likes of non-Kaneko spritework like Majin Tensei II, Giten, etc), that only leaves... Sophia from NINE, designed by what's-his-name who also did the characters:

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The first guest artist demon. Look at the restraint! LOOK AT IT
 

Kromeo

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Oct 27, 2017
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Just started DDS again for the first time since it came out but I instantly remember the base music.. Don't honestly remember much about the story though
 

FLCL

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Oct 27, 2017
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I hear you guys about SMTV. Just want something SMT-like on Switch or PS4 (mainly in terms of setting and story) because I am not a big fan of playing on 3DS. Any recommendation? The lost child is coming to Switch later this month which I'm hyped for.
 

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In that they have official illustrations (which leaves out the likes of non-Kaneko spritework like Majin Tensei II, Giten, etc), that only leaves... Sophia from NINE, designed by what's-his-name who also did the characters:

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The first guest artist demon. Look at the restraint! LOOK AT IT

The way she rise her hands look a lot like the mysterious figure from SMT 2 ending.

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BlackJace

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Oct 27, 2017
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I wish that double pack for SMT IV came out for Switch. Hell even a Switch release of SJ Redux. I need to retire my 3DS already lol
 
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HylianSeven

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I wish that double pack for SMT IV came out for Switch. Hell even a Switch release of SJ Redux. I need to retire my 3DS already lol
They should just do Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories style remakes of IV, IV:A, and SJ Redux.

I know it won't happen though.

Nocturne remake or port pls Atlus. It's the most popular one yet only available on two consoles that are both out of date now (PS2 and PS3 PSN)
 

FLCL

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Oct 27, 2017
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They should just do Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories style remakes of IV, IV:A, and SJ Redux.

I know it won't happen though.

Nocturne remake or port pls Atlus. It's the most popular one yet only available on two consoles that are both out of date now (PS2 and PS3 PSN)
I've only played SMTIV and now working on SMTIV:A so would love to be able to play Nocturne. It looks really good! Also, it seems like a good thing to do before the next SMT to get more people into the series?
Is it there any chance of it happening?
 
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HylianSeven

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I've only played SMTIV and now working on SMTIV:A so would love to be able to play Nocturne. It looks really good! Also, it seems like a good thing to do before the next SMT to get more people into the series?
Is it there any chance of it happening?
I'd honestly say I think it has the highest chance of being an SMT game to tide over between SMTV.

When the 25th anniversary site for SMT went up, there were two spaces for a 3DS project, and an HD Project that was immediately unveiled at the Switch conference and would be later known as SMTV. The 3DS project was eventually revealed to be a SJ remake (which I totally called from the start!).

I think Nocturne is the most likely game to get remade/ported to HD. SMT I, II, and if... were ported to mobile (all Japan only except for SMT1 on iOS) within the last few years, SJ was remade for 3DS, IV came out 5 years ago, but is on a system that is still relevant to a degree. IV:A came out about two years ago. There's no way in hell they will remake NINE. Devil Summoner was remade on the PSP years ago, Soul Hackers came to 3DS. The Raidou games are up in the air but I don't think they'll remake those. I think Switch would be the most viable candidate for it, but of course nothing would be stopping them from doing Nocturne HD on PS4 or Xbone. Let's be honest, they won't do PC. Synchronicity Prologue is the closest thing we will get to a PC MegaTen game.

SMTV might be 2020 or even longer for all we know, so I think surely they'll make something else during the wait and Nocturne makes the most sense.
 

Inquisitive_Ghost

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Oct 26, 2017
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I dread a Nocturne remake because I expect them to fuck up the art like SJR and to fuck up the tone like Apocalypse.

It's arguably my single favourite RPG, and part of why is that it so thoroughly rejects that crap.
 
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HylianSeven

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I dread a Nocturne remake because I expect them to fuck up the art like SJR and to fuck up the tone like Apocalypse.

It's arguably my single favourite RPG, and part of why is that it so thoroughly rejects that crap.
MORE BAD ART REJECTED!

Honestly even if they fuck up the art on it (arguably harder to screw up if it's basically touched up 3D models), I'd still be glad to play Nocturne on the Switch.

Despite the artwork fuckup in SJR, they still kept the tone quite consistent with the original.
 

Opa-Pa

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'd pay real money for Atlus to NOT remake Nocturne, I'd lose it if they were to ruin anything in it. Just release an upscaled version of it and call it a day.
According to Wikipedia as well as the MegaTen wiki, he's not credited until Megami Tensei II. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazuma_Kaneko

And in fact he doesn't even appear in MT1 and his first appearance was MT2. http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Jack_Frost#Stats
Ah, this makes sense. I never ever considered Jack Frost wasn't there from the beginning for some reason.
 

Eirikr

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You know, I was only considering post-MT demons, but maybe. I definitely think that Loki had some impact on subsequent Loki designs, anyway. Kaneko even redesigned that Loki for KMT and while a few others crossed over too, that was the only one he didn't originally design.

The only design from the Namco era to make it into a mainline "Shin" game unchanged that I can think of is oddly NINE's Typhon, which is a 3D rendered palette swap of MT2's Tiamat:

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Typhon even appears in MT2 using that design, but he's green instead of blue.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Lol this is some bullshit. My iphone 6 died and I bought a new iphone 8 only to realize SMT doesn't work on it since it's a 32bit game. I wish ATLUS would update the game since it's by far my favorite version of it.

I had also just gotten the full masakado's set ;_;
 

KushalaDaora

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Oct 27, 2017
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Lol this is some bullshit. My iphone 6 died and I bought a new iphone 8 only to realize SMT doesn't work on it since it's a 32bit game. I wish ATLUS would update the game since it's by far my favorite version of it.

I had also just gotten the full masakado's set ;_;

Lmao...same here. I know that the game is not compatible with iOS11, so I refrain from updating my iOS10 iPad until I finished SMT1. Alas for some reason my iPad update to iOS11 by itself overnight. And I already on the final part of the game...
 
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Has IV Apocalypse gone on sale on the EU/AU eShop ever? I kind of want to replay it after I beat SJ:R but I traded my copy in and now it's practically impossible to find.
Don't want to pay $65 for a digital copy though.
 

Blade24070

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Oct 26, 2017
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Instead of jumping into Raidou 2, I started Digital Devil Saga. Finished the first boss/dungeon last night.

Do I need a guide for missables or anything? In particular, I know there's something about choices in this game that influence major things in 2. Where are these choices and what are the "correct" answers?
 
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Instead of jumping into Raidou 2, I started Digital Devil Saga. Finished the first boss/dungeon last night.

Do I need a guide for missables or anything? In particular, I know there's something about choices in this game that influence major things in 2. Where are these choices and what are the "correct" answers?

Just pick the top answer when you get asked questions. None of it is super important or anything.
There's an optional boss in NG+ and if you beat him before you go over to DDS2 you get a ring that gives +10 to all stats in the second game.
 

Euphony

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Oct 25, 2017
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Good luck with that secret NG+ boss if you try it. They're most likely the hardest boss in the entire series.
 

Inquisitive_Ghost

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Oct 26, 2017
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Good luck with that secret NG+ boss if you try it. They're most likely the hardest boss in the entire series.
There is a "cheese" method (which I used) but even that requires basically building your characters toward it for the entire playthrough and a decent amount of grinding for the stat-raising items.
 

Euphony

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Oct 25, 2017
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There is a "cheese" method (which I used) but even that requires basically building your characters toward it for the entire playthrough and a decent amount of grinding for the stat-raising items.
Yep I tried the Red Star method but I eventually gave up since it just wasn't fun trying anymore. The stat boost item reward in DDS2 and feeling of accomplishment just wasn't worth it in my eyes.
 

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Instead of jumping into Raidou 2, I started Digital Devil Saga. Finished the first boss/dungeon last night.

Do I need a guide for missables or anything? In particular, I know there's something about choices in this game that influence major things in 2. Where are these choices and what are the "correct" answers?
The top answer for each is what you'd want for a certain outcome in DDS2, and you can agree to help an Ex-Solids member in Sahasrara.

There are several optional boss fights that are easy to miss as well (though they never close off or anything).
 

Inquisitive_Ghost

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Oct 26, 2017
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"I should practice drawing faces."

"Huh, that drawing of Demi turned out really nice. I think I'll ink it."

"This seems like a good drawing to practice some comic-style colouring with."

"OH MY GOD MY WHOLE EVENING IS GONE"


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(Sorry, I'll stop spamming the thread now).
 

Opa-Pa

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Oct 25, 2017
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"I should practice drawing faces."

"Huh, that drawing of Demi turned out really nice. I think I'll ink it."

"This seems like a good drawing to practice some comic-style colouring with."

"OH MY GOD MY WHOLE EVENING IS GONE"


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(Sorry, I'll stop spamming the thread now).
No please don't, these are awesome and I'd like to see more :p