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Cthulhu_Steev

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's a bad translation, he's basically saying the new game has the same conceptual roots as Ikaruga while being a totally different sort of game.

The update doesn't really give anything away that hasn't already been disclosed: in essence, the game system is there but M2 doesn't have an in-house team that can do it justice, so they're still considering whether to work with external contractors, hire more people, etc to bring the graphics up to scratch.
Ah, that makes sense. I originally thought 'ooh, side-scroller' then laughed at myself for being so stupid and getting 90/180 mixed up.
 
Jul 27, 2019
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Maybe I'm stupid but part of me wants to give them the benefit of the doubt - google translate says:
* This version upgrade is for iOS only.
 It does not support Android.
This could mean that they're not supporting Android yet. That these particular updates are iOS only.
 

Protmind

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Oct 27, 2017
45
I'm finally sitting down and playing the Limited Run Battle Garegga and really enjoying it. I've had the Insanity DVD/Soundtrack for over 10 years but never really played the game.

I'm interested in the other M2 releases. Before I pull the trigger are they all digital? Also looks like only Dangun has come to US. Any news on others getting a US release like Ketsui?
 

rawhide

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Oct 28, 2017
2,243
I'm finally sitting down and playing the Limited Run Battle Garegga and really enjoying it. I've had the Insanity DVD/Soundtrack for over 10 years but never really played the game.

I'm interested in the other M2 releases. Before I pull the trigger are they all digital? Also looks like only Dangun has come to US. Any news on others getting a US release like Ketsui?
Battle Garegga is digital and physical for PS4, digital-only on XB1. Both digital versions are available outside of Japan in English, and aside from the LRG PS4 version there's also a Korean disc version for PS4 which is sorta-semi English.

Dangun Feveron is digital-only, PS4 and XB1, Japan and overseas in English.

Mahou Daisakusen is digital-only, PS4-only and Japan-exclusive.

Ketsui is digital and physical for PS4, Japan-only; the disc version comes pre-installed with the paid DLC (arrange mode based on a rare arcade remix, a particular arrange OST).

ESPRa.De, out in December, is digital and physical for PS4 and Switch; they haven't announced paid DLC but if they do it'll probably be pre-installed on the physical version, as with Ketsui.

They haven't said anything about more overseas releases, aside from they hope LRG shows interest in Dangun Feveron.

I think non-simultaneous releases are hurting them, the core audience for these games isn't afraid to buy them in Japanese but even a lot of those guys probably aren't going to double-dip, at least digitally.
 

Lakeside

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Oct 25, 2017
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Battle Garegga is digital and physical for PS4, digital-only on XB1. Both digital versions are available outside of Japan in English, and aside from the LRG PS4 version there's also a Korean disc version for PS4 which is sorta-semi English.

Dangun Feveron is digital-only, PS4 and XB1, Japan and overseas in English.

Mahou Daisakusen is digital-only, PS4-only and Japan-exclusive.

Ketsui is digital and physical for PS4, Japan-only; the disc version comes pre-installed with the paid DLC (arrange mode based on a rare arcade remix, a particular arrange OST).

ESPRa.De, out in December, is digital and physical for PS4 and Switch; they haven't announced paid DLC but if they do it'll probably be pre-installed on the physical version, as with Ketsui.

They haven't said anything about more overseas releases, aside from they hope LRG shows interest in Dangun Feveron.

I think non-simultaneous releases are hurting them, the core audience for these games isn't afraid to buy them in Japanese but even a lot of those guys probably aren't going to double-dip, at least digitally.
Even if they would announce a Western release that lags behind the Japanese release it would solve the problem. This particular audience has grown used to importing these games so we jump on whatever scraps we can find, but then some won’t buy the local version if it finally releases. I’m sure that throttles sales to some degree.
 

rawhide

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Oct 28, 2017
2,243
Even if they would announce a Western release that lags behind the Japanese release it would solve the problem. This particular audience has grown used to importing these games so we jump on whatever scraps we can find, but then some won’t buy the local version if it finally releases. I’m sure that throttles sales to some degree.
Yeah, that's true. The other English releases they've done so far pretty much just showed up with no warning, the XB1 ports in particular were a total surprise.

Another problem going forward is they keep adding more and more content that would need to be localized: Mahou Daisakusen has tons of new text, ESPRa.De's getting a mode with a lot of new dialog, etc. These games probably aren't very profitable and with so many people importing already, I can see why they may not even bother localizing certain games, at least on their own.
 

ShinJohnpv

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Oct 25, 2017
653
I bought the US release of Battle Garegga and Dangun Feveron. However after all the silence on the US release side, I bought Ketsui when it got a physical release in Japan, and I have ESP Ra De pre-ordered. If feels like its been ages since BG and DF released in the West, and we've heard nothing about the subsequent 3 games coming here.
 

SmiteOfHand

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Oct 25, 2017
2,019
I bought the US release of Battle Garegga and Dangun Feveron. However after all the silence on the US release side, I bought Ketsui when it got a physical release in Japan, and I have ESP Ra De pre-ordered. If feels like its been ages since BG and DF released in the West, and we've heard nothing about the subsequent 3 games coming here.
M2 might be too slammed with the fifty different collection projects like Castlevania, Contra, Secret of Mana, mega drive mini, etc... to dedicate more regular timelines to passion projects like our weird pew-pew games. :/

Happy stuff is still trickling out all the same.
 

ShinJohnpv

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Oct 25, 2017
653
I mean I get that (thought the Collection of Mana stuff was finished a couple years ago, and this was just the US release finally happening), but they've been pretty consistent with the pew pew games releasing in Japan. It's just been in the US that has been ignored.
 

1upsuper

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Jan 30, 2018
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How is the Darius collection on switch? And is there a way to get the digital version in the US?
I think I saw you post in the Switch eShop thread saying you ended up getting the standard physical edition? Good choice, that has the essential titles. I'm a big Darius fan and that collection is excellent. You're actually in a pretty good spot because the Japanese eShop got digital versions of the standard edition as well as a standalone version that just includes the special edition-exclusives, so if you want the games your collection is missing, you can make a Japanese Nintendo account and get that digital version on the eShop. I recommend making a Japanese Nintendo account and linking it to a separate profile on your Switch, which then lets you automatically access the Japanese eShop by selecting that profile to access the shop. Then you can play the games you buy with any profile. The only issues is that your games are spread across multiple accounts, which could be an issue if you ever get another Switch.

Do note that US credit cards don't work on the Japanese eShop, so you'll want to buy prepaid cards, which are available online. I think most stores will send you the code immediately upon purchase.
 
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Tendo

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Oct 26, 2017
315
I think I saw you post in the Switch eShop thread saying you ended up getting the standard physical edition? Good choice, that has the essential titles. I'm a big Darius fan and that collection is excellent. You're actually in a pretty good spot because the Japanese eShop got digital versions of the standard edition as well as a standalone version that just includes the special edition-exclusives, so if you want the games your collection is missing, you can make a Japanese Nintendo account and get that digital version on the eShop. I recommend making a Japanese Nintendo account and linking it to a separate profile on your Switch, which then lets you automatically access the Japanese eShop by selecting that profile to access the shop. Then you can play the games you buy with any profile. The only issues is that your games are spread across multiple accounts, which could be an issue if you ever get another Switch.

Do note that US credit cards don't work on the Japanese eShop, so you'll want to buy prepaid cards, which are available online. I think most stores will send you the code immediately upon purchase.

Thanks for the reply! I hated to cross post like that but I didn't know where I'd get a good response to a fairly niche question. It should be here Monday! I've gone on a huge shooter kick lately which started with my neo geo mini getting here. I can't wait to dive in! It has been quite awhile since I've put some time into Darius but I loved playing it back in college. Thanks for all the info!