Yep. Definitely not a guarantee of a western release whatsoever.
I'm still holding out hope before dropping $50-60 on the Japanese import, though. A fully localized, cheaper release would be ideal.
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Shmups (Shoot 'Em Ups) |OT| THE FULL EXTENT OF THE JAM
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I'm still holding out hope before dropping $50-60 on the Japanese import, though. A fully localized, cheaper release would be ideal.
Hey all. Just wondering if the Dariusburst Chonicle Saviours DLC is worth the asking price. I think I saw it on sale once but didn't buy it. I'm not quite finished with the game but I know I'll want to keep playing afterwards so thought I'd check out the DLC but wow is seems expensive.
Thanks.
Thanks.
I don't know whether it's worth it, but it's been on my wishlist waiting for a sale because I'm terrified it will suddenly disappear one day due to licensing issues!
I'm actually worried about that as well. I would hope we would get a heads up but yeah, it's something I thought about.
So someone on Reddit pointed out that the only M2 Shotriggers releases that have ever come to the West (and USA only, apparently) were Battle Garegga and Dangon Feveron, both of which had localized versions to begin with. Since ESP Ra.De. never had an English version, I'm starting to think that Psi will never be released outside of Japan.
I'm so close to pulling the trigger on importing it, but damn there are SO many menus and UI elements that I won't understand. That one menu translation on the shmups forum is helpful, but there are so many other elements/areas that would need to be translated.
I'm so close to pulling the trigger on importing it, but damn there are SO many menus and UI elements that I won't understand. That one menu translation on the shmups forum is helpful, but there are so many other elements/areas that would need to be translated.
I didn't even wait for them to bring any of them over.
I just point the google translate app at the screen and guess.
After playing most of them for so long, i rarely even use the menus that much.
it's always on Arcade setting, with my stuff ready to go.
There is an international version of the Arcade PCB that has English on it. I don't know where that got released to, but there is an English translation version already out there for ESP Ra De. Plus the game doesn't have that much text, honestly the Esper room would need like 50x the amount of translation work than the game itself, so I don't know if that really makes a difference.
Welp, I decided to just go for it and import the Switch version. The fact that I've been giving it so much thought shows how much I want this game on my Switch, and with only the faintest glimmer of hope of an eventual western release I said fug it.
Came out to $63 in total through Amazon Japan because of the $10 shipping.
Came out to $63 in total through Amazon Japan because of the $10 shipping.
Thing to keep in mind about the menus is they are mostly config too. Once you have it setup the way you want you rarely need to really dig through them.
And the one or two pop ups you may need to hit hai to you'll get used to very quickly. As far as imports go shmups are very kind, even one with as complex options as this one.
And the one or two pop ups you may need to hit hai to you'll get used to very quickly. As far as imports go shmups are very kind, even one with as complex options as this one.
Ended up pulling the trigger and getting the Switch Japanese version. If a western a version ever comes out I'll double dip with the PS4 version.
Yeah, I figured as much. The one area that I might struggle with are the challenges for Iori's Room since I won't know what the goal of each one is.
Tempting, but I'd probably end up digital for convenience, and might be hard to get a physical cart by the time I decide to get it. Do I just need a Japanese account and eShop credit to buy off that store?
I'd probably feel more rushed to buy if I didn't already have the PCB from way back. I haven't followed too much, how's the new stuff in it, sounds like another character and tweaked (but not necessarily a full arrange) arcade mode?
I'd probably feel more rushed to buy if I didn't already have the PCB from way back. I haven't followed too much, how's the new stuff in it, sounds like another character and tweaked (but not necessarily a full arrange) arcade mode?
Yeah it's a tweaked arcade mode, the new boss/character and the Iori room stuff. Along with the usual M2 stuff like training mode and the arranged sound track.
Putting aside the fact that the other M2STG games also have localized ROMs, Garegga and Feveron still use the Japanese ROMs anyway so that clearly didn't influence their decision.
I can't offer actual numbers but the retail version of Ketsui Deathtiny exceeded expectations and has been reprinted something like five times.
I don't think the numbers posted earlier necessarily reflect a lack of interest in Ra.De, especially as this is the first time they've launched on multiple platforms. Let them speak on whether they consider it successful or not.
I've bought a couple. The content isn't that compelling honestly for the price but it is cool as hell having some of those ships. Also be aware that the DLC is not cross-buy for PS4 and Vita :(
Really hope M2 works on Dodonpachi or Espgaluda next. Not it matters much since ESP Ra De is currently kicking my ass.
So, I think that I'm going to stop looking for medals, feels like the hassle isn't worthy, although for some reason I find that the first 2 bosses are harder on lower ranks, or maybe I'm not focusing on the right weapons at the correct order
Some of the bosses have random elements. Even though your rank might be lower, they sometimes can trigger a harder pattern. Yagawa is a mean man.
If you keep trying to get the medal chain, eventualy you're gonna memorize the medal positions, which will make it easier to keep it up.
Just follow the rule. If you drop the chain, keep the run going, and don't pickup more medals; that way you don't worry about it as much.
By the way, in Garegga there's an item drop order.
[From the Garegga Strategy Topic on shmups]
Every five flying enemies you destroy you get:
- 1: small shot powerup
- 2: medal
- 3: small shot powerup
- 4: medal
- 5: option (the first five repeat 4 times, then...)
- 6: small shot powerup
- 7: medal
- 8: small shot powerup
- 9: medal
- 10: large shot powerup (then back to the top)
It would really be nice if they focused on games that haven't been ported.
I agree, but, most of the 360 Cave stuff is not 100% arcade accurate.
Getting those titles with their magic on them would be so good.
Outside of the CAVE VN where Dodonpachi was playable, when was the last time? Saturn/PS1? Those ports aren't perfect either.
It's a fair point. We did get Dodonpachi on 360's Instant Brain as a hidden game.
I'd just like to see the Ibaras and some more Raizing output (Batrider, Bakraid specifically).
Batrider is my #1 game for shottriggers.
i'll tell you what i want to see the most though... A Capcom shooter collection like their beat em up one.
Imagine with some of the games they own the rights for:
- Progear
- Dimahoo
- 19XX
- Mars Matrix
Personally I would love to see some more obscure stuff finally brought home. Stuff like Viper Phase 1, which is an amazing Raiden spin off that has never seen a home port, but totally deserves one. Now don't get me wrong I love the DonPachi series, and would love to see M2 tackle the series. It's just that these shot triggers releases come so slowly, that hitting something that already has a home port feels like a wasted opportunity. The ESP Ra De release was a fantastic choice because it was an amazing shmup (my personal favorite ) that some how never got a home release. I really want them to keep doing that. There are so many amazing shmups that are locked to either really expensive PCBs, or playing them on Mame, that absolutely deserve a chance on a home console.
The single game I want most from ShotTriggers is Ibara, purely due to the low quality of existing ports and emulation. If they're gonna port something that already has a good port, I guess I'd like Espgaluda?
Outside of Cave, though, I'd love to see Armed Police Batrider.
Outside of Cave, though, I'd love to see Armed Police Batrider.
Well, hold on. None of them have been ported to the Switch, which is what matters here. The Switch has every right to be the greatest shmup system of all time, thanks to its hybrid nature and easy TATE compatibility. EVERY Cave game needs to come to Switch. It's criminal that only one has so far, and even that one is Japan-exclusive at the moment.
PS - I wanna give a shout-out to Amazon Japan. I ordered my import copy of ESP Ra.De. Psi yesterday, and it's scheduled to arrive Thursday. That's three-day delivery from Tokyo with no Prime or anything. I'm impressed.
My eyes aren't bionic enough to play these games on the Switch but props to those that can. I can barely dodge bullets on my cab.
But I appreciate the likely tongue in cheek post, though the love of the Switch is lost on me.
My tongue is nowhere near my cheek. I truly, madly, deeply want every Cave game to be ported to Switch. I want it so badly it hurts.
There have only been a grand total of three Cave games under the M2 Shottriggers line. Maybe they'll come to switch? My priority would still be to get other CAVE stuff ported.
Even in switch Tate mode, with the flipgrip, i prefer using my monitor with a rotating stand.
Ok then in that case I really hope they focus limited resources on porting things that aren't available to play rather than to get it on a specific console.
I did grab a Switch copy of ESP but I will likely never play it.
I just want 'em all at home without having to get PCBs!
I wound up double-dipping on EspRaDe, but I've gotten more mileage out of the PS4 version, personally. Between having to use an arcade stick adapter and the Switch version having slightly more delay (I think?), I'm noticing a very slight yet tangible difference in responsiveness between the two.
I also prefer playing yoko on my OLED to playing tate with flipgrip.
I wound up double-dipping on EspRaDe, but I've gotten more mileage out of the PS4 version, personally. Between having to use an arcade stick adapter and the Switch version having slightly more delay (I think?), I'm noticing a very slight yet tangible difference in responsiveness between the two.
I also prefer playing yoko on my OLED to playing tate with flipgrip.
I used to notice a difference with my arcade stick between the Switch and PS4, and then some one told me about a new option in the switch menu that had something to do with USB Pro controller communication or something, I forget the exact option, but I turned that on and the difference in responsiveness to my arcade stick went away. You could give that a try.
And yeah I want all shmups released in the arcade to come home, I just want some we haven't ever gotten yet to get their chance in the light.
batrider, bakraid, ibara/kuro, and some of that juicy toaplan would be great.
or something like thunder dragon 2 perhaps??
ports of games without home releases or "weak" ports is what I keep hoping for, but I'm prepped for the next game to be something like deathsmiles or mushihimesama switch lol
or something like thunder dragon 2 perhaps??
ports of games without home releases or "weak" ports is what I keep hoping for, but I'm prepped for the next game to be something like deathsmiles or mushihimesama switch lol
i was never super crazy about the first one either. or Akai Katana-- I forgot CAVE even made that.
the only horizontal CAVE shooter I love is Progear.
futari would be fine even though I'd still be a little disappointed. I meant more the original mushihimesama on ps2/360/pc
i know what you meant. i have the first mushi already on PC. I quite like the game (esp. the soundtrack) but the sequel is probably STILL my favorite CAVE game.
You have to play so aggressive in ESP. If you let the bigger enemies live for more than a second the screen instantly becomes filled with bullets between the aggressive bullet patterns and nonstop popcorn enemies. You have go right up to the bigger enemies and use you secondary shot as soon as they appear. Movement is weird too. You fly so much faster when you're not shooting it's actually jarring.
The recent vinyl release of Radiant Silvergun's OST prompted me to finally pull the trigger on the Saturn version, which I've wanted to buy for ten years, but never wanted to pay the high price. Managed to win an auction with obi for under 200, which seems pretty good all things considered. Ikaruga has been one of my favorite games since I picked it up on GameCube back in the day, super excited to finally play the prequel!