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Should Nintendo be worried about their future once PS5 and Xbox Scarlett release?
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I really wanna meet the guy that is getting ready to sell their Switch because it's more apparent it will never get games like Anthem and Destiny 3.
Neither Microsoft nor Sony are a threat to, or are threatened by, anything Nintendo does.
People who buy Switches are not preventing sales of Xbox or PS, and vice-versa.
People who buy Switches are not preventing sales of Xbox or PS, and vice-versa.
Not to mention that the Switch will be in its 6th year just 2 years into the next generation, another more powerful Nintendo hybrid can take it's place.
List of release first party published software never before release on other hardware in it's first two years (well close to at least):
1-2 Switch
Arms
FE Warriors
Fitness Boxing
Kirby
BotW
Mario Tennis Aces
Labo (why you arent counting this one, I dont know)
Pokemon LG
Snipperclips
Splatoon 2
Smash Bros
Super Mario Odyssey
Super Mario Party
Sushi Strikers
Xenoblade 2
Xenoblade 2 Torna
Yoshi
Tetris 99
That's 19, 22 if one would count all different Labo games separately. 16 of those 19 games are played exclusively on the Switch.
First party games arent exclusively EPD games, outsourced games count as well you know..
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They were literally built on top of their Wii U counterparts. As was Mario Tennis Aces (a literal finished version of Mario Tennis Ultra Smash).
They ported the Wii U games to Switch and then built new content on top of them. That's how they got them out so quickly.
They can't keep pulling that trick forever though... and once they've run out of Wii U games to raid; then they're gonna have to just rely on their ability to make brand new games from scratch again...
... just like what happened with Wii U.
I repeat what was said: You do not know how sequels work. Or engines and assets.
the hell are you saying? do you realise that the switch is the successor of psvita and 3ds too?
also Lol at "generously counting Smash Ultimate and Splatoon 2 amongst the "original" titles"
No. The switch is different enough to be something in addition to one of the other consoles. Plus the hardware itself is a selling point
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That list is nowhere near as flattering when you discount the games that only came out when they did because they were built on top of existing Wii U titles. They are not reflective of Nintendo's ability to sustain a platform going forward for that reason.
The whole point of the topic is in discussing how Nintendo sustains themselves if they cannot earn any 3rd party support; OR, how do they ensure they keep 3rd party support going in the wake of the next generation rivals?
There's no point in including Wii U ports and games built on top of Wii U games. They are just masking their inability to sustain themselves based on their own output.
The Wii U is what happens when Nintendo truly go it alone; and don't have a bunch of ports propping up their library.
There's no reason to think the next major Nintendo release will be anything like the WiiU. The Wii was casual and novel, courting a casual audience. The Switch is portable and inviting, courting a much more supportive, excited hardcore crowd.
Plus where the Wii and WiiU had PSP and Vita to compete with for indies and AA JRPGs, the Switch does not. It has already become the destination for those titles.
Plus where the Wii and WiiU had PSP and Vita to compete with for indies and AA JRPGs, the Switch does not. It has already become the destination for those titles.
uhhh no
There isn't a single Wii U port currently announced (I'm sure some more are coming), yet Nintendo's upcoming lineup is incredibly full. Nintendo used Wii U ports to pad the Switch lineup during a time when most of their external partners had just finished up 3DS projects. This is no longer an issue. Comparing Switch to Wii U is ridiculous and completely ignores context (like the fact that Nintendo had two major platforms to support at once).
You think developers starts from scratch with every new title and don't re-use engine, animations and assets as the foundation ? lol
You probably also expect no developer to re-use the UE4 again after shopping one game with that engine.
Seems the OP more than discussion is just looking for people to agree with him.
Ironic someone that doesn't count ports, yet posts a recycled/ported/closed minded thread.
Ironic someone that doesn't count ports, yet posts a recycled/ported/closed minded thread.
Again we see the cultural amnesia that the Wii U failed because lack of third party support and not because the WiiU really, really sucked and no one liked it
Also, the Switch isn't exactly getting stellar AAA third-party support as it is and its doing just fine
Also, the Switch isn't exactly getting stellar AAA third-party support as it is and its doing just fine
Ultimate and S2 are ports??? :/
Wow.
I guess last of us 2 is a port of 1 too.
I think the audience for Switch is mostly comprised of people who don't plan on buying Sony or Microsoft's consoles, or people who plan on buying one but also use the Switch as their secondary system. I'm in the latter.
The PS5 and Scarlett will make a dent on Switch sales to be sure, but it probably won't be anything too dire.
The PS5 and Scarlett will make a dent on Switch sales to be sure, but it probably won't be anything too dire.
They are reusing Joel and Ellie, they have practically half of the work already done.
Smash Ultimate & Splatoon 2 may borrow assets from their previous entries, but they're still new games.
With the exception of the ambiguity around port begging the frequency of which this 'upscale port' nonsense re Switch games occurs on this site always has me questioning what exactly the people running the site have to say about this. I ask because it's not in the ToS or FAQs but something extremely similar being 'lazy devs' is specifically listed as being against the ToS. So like I say it's weird that you can just start a thread and flat out state that certain devs are not putting enough effort in in fancier words and it's like no big thing. But even more confusing is calling games 'generic' pre launch has led to bans so I'm at a complete loss. It's happened/ing time and again and I'm just confused is all where the line is drawn. In my opinion the least that could be expected is a source or evidence that proves this is the case but in 99.9% of examples of this there isn't one.
So yeah if I missed something I'd like to see where said line has been drawn pretty please.
So yeah if I missed something I'd like to see where said line has been drawn pretty please.
So they'll put out new games that they've, undoubtedly, been working on since the launch of the system.
I don't think you understand how game development works. Or you are severely, SEVERELY underestimating Nintendo. I'll fully admit they've done A LOT of dumb shit in the past, but what you're claiming has no precedent.
Nah, they are doing their own thing like they always do but this time they have more third party support. Will there be games that miss out on the Switch because of the power difference? Sure, but that has always been the case and that still doesn't change the fact that there will be more third party support than they've had since the Wii (without as much shovelware I may add).
When we hit the point of making lists and debating popularity, these threads have usually run their course.
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