Should No Russian Be Included in a MW2 Remastered?

[Nowise10]

The news came out yesterday that Activision confirmed that they will be announcing and releasing more remastered titles from flag IP's this year, which brings into account the likely possibility of them remastering Modern Warfare 2, which makes sense after Modern Warfare Remastered came out in 2016.

Now, this game was extremely controversial back in 2009 because of the mission No Russian, where you go into an airport and shoot up the place. I can only imagine the controversy that would happen in todays world, if they were to include a remaster of this mission, making it grittier and more realistic then ever.

I feel like Activision would be caught between a rock and a hard place with an ethical decision to make. Would you be okay with this mission being remastered, and looking more realistic then ever? Or should they skip out on it, and possibly just make it a cutscene? I personally wouldn't have much issues with it, and would like to see the entire game be remade, but would also understand if they didn't include it.

 

[Justin Iacobellis]

Keep it in and give players the option to skip it as they did in the original.

 

[Birdo]

The game gave you the option to skip the mission if it made you uncomfortable. Leave it as is.

 

[Penny Royal]

Keep it in and give players the option to skip it as they did in the original.

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[oatmeal]

It would become an even bigger story if it was censored.

Leave it, and skip if you don't want it.

 

[Deleted member 15326]

I think you're misreading today's world if you think No Russian would make much of a splash now

 

[KillLaCam]

Yeah it's a big part of the game and theres a skip button for ppl who are uncomfortable by that

 

[Deleted member 1003]

Keep it in and give players the option to skip it as they did in the original.

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We're done.

 

[Deleted member 4093]

Let them confirm this jawn first. This game special to me dont play with my heart

 

[Abriael]

Obviously. I'm not even sure why this is a thing. Censorship is never acceptable.

 

[Bhonar]

Everyone's already answered correctly already.

Not even a question.

 

[Megatron]

Of course they should leave it in. Why wouldn't they?

 

[Soulflarz]

Yes? It's part of the game.

 

[Border]

It's only one of dozens of game where you can kill innocent people.....not sure what even makes it stand out when it's not a "surprise" mission.

 

[GazRB]

Why would you? Kind of a weird thing to focus on given everything else you can do in games.

 

[Rayne]

Keep it in and give players the option to skip it as they did in the original.

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One and done.

 

[Marjorine]

I must be hyper desensitized, because when I played this originally it didn't even occur to me that this was over the top.

 

[Valkyr1983]

No

It's already skippable and there are plenty of people not bothered or offended by it

It should stay in

 

[NinjaScooter]

Replace it with "No Puppet".

 

[newmoneytrash]

Keep it in and give players the option to skip it as they did in the original.

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Yeah, I mean it's always going to be controversial but they had the presence of mind to build in workarounds from the beginning

It should be handled exactly the same way

 

[Creepy Woody]

It's a story. Bad things happen in stories. Don't censor it.

You either take part or you skip it in a game.

If it is in the remaster, you can guarantee it will make news headlines again though.

 

[Bishop89]

Keep it in and give players the option to skip it as they did in the original.

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this.

 

[defaltoption]

Absolutely, they should also keep the option to skip it from the original.

 

[Bio]

I think you're misreading today's world if you think No Russian would make much of a splash now

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The scene was never controversial because of where it took place. It was controversial because you were taking active part in an actual terrorist act and shooting hundreds of innocent civilians. Mass shootings and terrorist attacks are a bigger problem today, not a lesser one.

 

[Deleted member 15326]

The scene was never controversial because of where it took place. It was controversial because you were taking active part in an actual terrorist act and shooting hundreds of innocent civilians. Mass shootings and terrorist attacks are a bigger problem today, not a lesser one.

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I didn't say anything about it being controversial because of where it took place.

It wouldn't make much noise now precisely because mass shooting and terrorist attacks are more common. The people who would have made noise back then have shown they firmly do not care

 

[eyeball_kid]

The scene was never controversial because of where it took place. It was controversial because you were taking active part in an actual terrorist act and shooting hundreds of innocent civilians. Mass shootings and terrorist attacks are a bigger problem today, not a lesser one.

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Yup. It would be branding suicide for Activision to release this game as-is given the current climate.

 

[bobeth]

It should absolutely be included, no editing allowed.

 

[The Artisan]

Keep it in and give players the option to skip it as they did in the original.

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in the original, you had to play through it. i think it was only in an update that they gave the option to skip it.

 

[GarthLordOfTheSith]

Uh yes? You have the option of skipping it if it makes you uncomfortable.

 

[Deleted member 4037]

It should be in, there was a warning and an option to skip, people know what they are getting into

 

[Justin Iacobellis]

in the original, you had to play through it. i think it was only in an update that they gave the option to skip it.

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I got the game on launch and remember the option being there from the jump.

 

[SharpX68K]

If the No Russian mission is totally removed, I won't buy a MW2 Remaster. I hate censorship.

Better at least have the option to play it.

 

[Deleted member 2171]

in the original, you had to play through it. i think it was only in an update that they gave the option to skip it.

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It was always skippable. There's specifically no achievements or in-game emblems or anything else attached to it either - the game does not care if you opted to play it or not.

 

[Deleted member 6730]

Considering mass shootings are kind of an issue right now, keeping it in would be tone death. It wasn't really a good idea in the first place.

 

[Vic Damone Jr.]

Yes.

 

[The Artisan]

I got the game on launch and remember the option being there from the jump.

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It was always skippable. There's specifically no achievements or in-game emblems or anything else attached to it either - the game does not care if you opted to play it or not.

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huh, alright. i guess it's one of those things remembered wrongly

 

[gcwy]

It absolutely should. It's pretty significant part of the game.

 

[MillionStabs]

Um, yeah?

It's an iconic mission, not to mention vital since its the catalyst for the entire story

 

[Maximus]

It has already been made and released, the world is a fucked up place. It is disgusting how humans treat each other, but may as well censor the whole game than. I wouldn't be upset if it was gone, but it doesn't bother me to leave it in. On another note, I really hope Activision doesn't fuck with the game balance.

 

[BradGrenz]

The level's controversy was fed by the complete misunderstanding most critics had about how it fit in the narrative.

 

[Mondy]

Just don't show it to Trump

 

[Bishop89]

in the original, you had to play through it. i think it was only in an update that they gave the option to skip it.

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nope. Was there day 1

 

[Deleted member 6730]

in the original, you had to play through it. i think it was only in an update that they gave the option to skip it.

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It was always there because I guess some people just aren't ok with shooting unarmed innocent civilians. Bunch of pansies.

 

[Deleted member 19218]

Actually, I think it will be less controversial today.

I feel the reason why it was so controversial is that 9/11 was still fresh in people's minds. It had been less than 10 years. In addition to that, the resulting war was still ongoing or had recently ended and wasn't George Bush still president? This was something that had a particular impact in that era and it won't have the same impact today. It comes down to the setting, a terrorist attack at an airport is less controversial in gaming today.

 

[Arex]

Try replacing it with no American and see how that goes

 

[LightEntite]

they can remove it, if they're pansies

Try replacing it with no American and see how that goes

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lol

 

[Rembrandt]

If they remove anything, it'll probably be the random bombing in MW3(?).

I wouldn't purchase this if they removed no russian, though. Weird self-censoring

 

[osnameless]

Historically speaking, did Activision care back then, and should they care now?
I mean the company had a lot of bad press, doesn't seem to bother them as long as they are still making profit

 

[Deleted member 26746]

I would really have put it in like playable or like a looong not skippable cutscene in the first place.

 

[BigTnaples]

Of course.

It's part of the game. Censuring this would just give more false credibility to the claime that video games have any actual effect on this issue. There's already a warning in place.