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Should the Sands of Time trilogy be left to rot?
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As far as I'm concerned, there is no "Sands of Time" trilogy. There is Sands of Time, one of the best games of that generation.
Sands of Time is a masterpiece because of Jordan Mechner.
Warrior Within stomped all over the legacy of the first game. Two Thrones was a weak attempt to mashup the edgelord energy of WW with the poetic beauty of SoT.
Sands of Time is a masterpiece because of Jordan Mechner.
Warrior Within stomped all over the legacy of the first game. Two Thrones was a weak attempt to mashup the edgelord energy of WW with the poetic beauty of SoT.
Is it just me or are there more and more Prince of Persia threads lately?
Since the last thread a week or so ago I have been thinking about these games so much. I really miss them, and wish Ubi would port them to PS4 (without the glitches from the PS3 versions). I think there should be another one, too, especially since no other game today really does what Prince of Persia did in the Sands of Time trilogy. I'm not just talking about rewinding time, but those timing-based puzzles in 3D? Those corridors filled with traps? I need more of that. There's just nothing like it in 3D, so I imagine there would be a market for a new one with gameplay like that.
In that respect the 2008 one, while a good game, was disappointing, because it didn't give us more of that unique Prince of Persia gameplay. It was too different. Forgotten Sands was good-looking but it had too many flaws. Its combat wasn't very fun, and it had too many game-y elements (e.g. floating red orbs) while the PoP:SoT team did their best to hide these things and make them believable. Speaking of which, Patrice Desilets talking about Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time on Devs Play is such an insightful video, and I recommend it to everyone who has an interest in game design as well as every Prince of Persia fan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ODNMBG4MUA
So yeah, we really haven't got a good PoP game in over 10 years... but I hope we get one soon!
Since the last thread a week or so ago I have been thinking about these games so much. I really miss them, and wish Ubi would port them to PS4 (without the glitches from the PS3 versions). I think there should be another one, too, especially since no other game today really does what Prince of Persia did in the Sands of Time trilogy. I'm not just talking about rewinding time, but those timing-based puzzles in 3D? Those corridors filled with traps? I need more of that. There's just nothing like it in 3D, so I imagine there would be a market for a new one with gameplay like that.
In that respect the 2008 one, while a good game, was disappointing, because it didn't give us more of that unique Prince of Persia gameplay. It was too different. Forgotten Sands was good-looking but it had too many flaws. Its combat wasn't very fun, and it had too many game-y elements (e.g. floating red orbs) while the PoP:SoT team did their best to hide these things and make them believable. Speaking of which, Patrice Desilets talking about Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time on Devs Play is such an insightful video, and I recommend it to everyone who has an interest in game design as well as every Prince of Persia fan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ODNMBG4MUA
So yeah, we really haven't got a good PoP game in over 10 years... but I hope we get one soon!
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This is a great idea. There is definitely enough room for both series to breathe on their own, especially now that AC has gone fully in the direction of open sandbox RPG-lite. POP would be awesome as an Uncharted-like game but with much better and tighter gameplay.
Bring it back!!!!! Would love to see that happen
The series set the standard for gaming for years to come. God Of War, Uncharted, and Assassin's Creed wouldn't have thrived if it weren't for PoP Sands Of Time trilogy. Truly phenomenal. An announcement for a new game I saw one of my dreams. Let this series be celebrated and honored again for its poetic and versatile nature.
The series set the standard for gaming for years to come. God Of War, Uncharted, and Assassin's Creed wouldn't have thrived if it weren't for PoP Sands Of Time trilogy. Truly phenomenal. An announcement for a new game I saw one of my dreams. Let this series be celebrated and honored again for its poetic and versatile nature.
What I meant is that all those games have completely different aims. It's logical for PoP to have better climbing/more challenging mechanics than those games considering what they try to achieve.
I was trying to say that those have better gameplay of something.
My take is that Warrior Within took some bad missteps in terms of story and combat, but its platforming was still excellent. Twin Thrones tries to rectify that but retain most of the combat, so it still ended up a little worse than Sands of Time.
Is Forgotten Sands good? I didn't like 2008 at all.
Is Forgotten Sands good? I didn't like 2008 at all.
Beyond a 4K Remaster I'd rather see Ubisoft do something new than make a sequel to a series that was well explored and most gamers undoubtedly don't care much about.
A new PoP game in general would be interesting, I'd even like another Retro Throwback because the Cinematic Platformer is an interesting concept that I don't think has been fully explored. There's definitely a market for that type of game as people love Limbo and Inside and yet I don't think any devs had tried to be as challenging as the original Prince of Persia did in how you had to figure out the puzzling death traps.
A new PoP game in general would be interesting, I'd even like another Retro Throwback because the Cinematic Platformer is an interesting concept that I don't think has been fully explored. There's definitely a market for that type of game as people love Limbo and Inside and yet I don't think any devs had tried to be as challenging as the original Prince of Persia did in how you had to figure out the puzzling death traps.
I played it on ps2. I encountered sound bugs, I got stuck on the boss fight where you have to beat 2 big guys and had to restart the game several times.
AssCreed is a pretty poor abbreviation. Still gotta type out half the name of the game, not even concise. just ass is fine really
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My God, what is it with these faux-connoisseur hipster hot takes? I swear this is almost the worst trait of the game enthusiast crowd; they're the most toxic and reductive forms of discussion that lead to shit, hive mind opinions that you often see permeating and derailing good analysis and conversation.
Don't you realize you look like a fool idolizing one entry in a franchise while handwaving the time and effort of hundreds of people all in the same breath because you can't or won't just say you've got an agenda?
You're better off just stating how you feel about these games instead of spouting nonsense as fact.
Preach it.
And get some sleep. Lol
Give me a remaster trilogy ffs Ubisoft. I know you have your precious ass guild to take care of, but at least rember us PoP fans for like, 3 seconds. Two Thrones especially, legit sequel and on equal footing with Sands of Time. You know while you are at it, throw in Forgotten Sands Wii, its like a midquel to Warriors Within.
Agenda? Is saying Godfather I is better than Godfather III sign of an agenda, or simply a (widely shared) opinion? Godfather III had even more people involved in its production than I. Is it simply "handwaving" to say that their efforts were in service of something less artistically significant?
Mechner brought seriousness and a deeply learned sensibility to his work on Sands of Time. He'd evidenced a great talent for this sophisticated narrative and dialogue with his work on The Last Express. Sands of Time draws deeply on the tradition of the 1001 Nights, and on Persian legends like the story of Rostam. The dialogue has a poetic lyricism to it, the storytelling is mythic and surreal, and that storytelling is built into the very structure of the beautifully designed environments.
For me at least, the environments in the next two games feel compartively arbitrary and undetailed. The visual presentation is muddy. The storytelling is comparatively flimsy, the art design (reaching a real low with characters like Shahdee) is often adolescent, and the dialogue is clumsy and awkward.
Sands of Time begins with this line:
"Most people think time is like a river that flows swift and sure in one direction, but I have seen the face of time and I can tell you they are wrong. Time is an ocean in a storm. You may wonder who I am and why I say this; sit down and I will tell you a tale like none that you have ever heard."
Warrior Within begins with the prince getting slashed in the face by a woman wearing an outfit that makes Soul Calibur's Ivy look like a mormon. His response? Screaming "You bitch!" Really starting off on a high note.
Two Thrones tries to revive something of the tone of Sands of Time and marry it to the heavy metal sensibility of Warrior Within. But one only has to compare the scenes involving the character of
Farah
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I do share your opinion that SoT is better than the other two games, but I do think those other two games are still rather good, with WW improving on some of the platforming for example. However, while Mechner did play a large role, he was not the only person who made Sands of Time as great as it is. A lot of the POP Team just went on to work directly on Assassin's Creed after SoT. That includes Patrice Desilets, the director, who I think had just as much or more influence than Mechner in delivering the masterpiece that they did. As I mentioned above I highly recommend watching the Devs Play video where he talks about SoT, what his ideas were and what everyone's role was. It really shows that had he been at the helm of a direct SoT sequel, it would not have turned out like Warrior Within.
I agree that Patrice also deserves enormous credit for the quality of that game, I think that's a very fair qualification. For me there is more of what I love about Sands of Time in Assassin's Creed than there is in Warrior Within. The sense of mood and attention to detail is very present, as is this unique mixture of historical sensibility and distinctly contemporary flash. Warrior Within completely misunderstood that latter part, taking it into the realm of music video excess. There is an elegance and grace to the movement in Sands of Time (I know the team was very inspired by Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon) which is also in the core DNA of the Creed franchise.
Please do, whenever you have the time.
I still play PoP from time to time and WW is my favorite because of the gameplay and story.
For all the edginess it had, WW has an equally wonderful game under that.
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Congratulations on elaborating, but I maintain that positing the first game as some form of high art compared to the following sequels is disingenuous at best, utterly naive at worst.
The objectification of the female characters was overt in WW but let's not pretend Farah was exempt from being an exotic trophy, especially in that bath cutscene. The writing in SoT was earnest but far from good. With regards to the art direction, your appreciation of classical Arabic folk tales may be skewing your perspective of what "surreal" means to favor your high opinion of SoT. One could just as easily argue that the muted, impressionistic, painterly look of the island of time shares more with the often praised art style of Team ICO games than the golden, sometimes moonlit Middle Eastern fairy tale look of the first game.
Warrior Within had a more somber theme of predestination and consequences that it fully committed to, and if you cared to look past Shadee's ass (a character that frankly gets thrown away in the first hour of the game), you'd see the same writing quality in the scene that sets up to the Prince's quest.
I could say that I find your judgement of quality in writing between The Two Thrones and Sands of Time just as arbitrary as you perceived the environments in the sequels. To my mind it was a rekindling of Farah's and the Prince's chemistry in the first game. The characters were understandingly different and further along in their development because of the altered timeline, but their dialogue was just as serviceable as in the first game.
Again, this notion that Sands of Time is some sort of standalone instance of higher art is perhaps a little too nostalgic and steeped in that reactionary disdain for Warrior Within's more objectionable choices.
I don't think you're seriously bringing up the Godfather into a comparison to early 2000's videogames. Lol
The ''bad/akward'' that pepole claim WW has always confuse me.
The dialogue and exchanges are awesome and Robin Atkin Downes nails it as the Prince.
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The Sands of Time is the only game I've ever played where I immediately started a new game after beating it. It is one of my favorite games of all time. It was also one of the games being reviewed on the first episode of X-Play I ever watched, so that was cool. I still remember that episode because they also reviewed the original Call of Duty game, and a third game that I can't remember, but all three games got 5/5 ratings.
Does anyone know a way to add 1920x1080 resolutions to the GOG version of Sands of Time? I'd like to play it again, but with a more modern resolution. I did a little Googling, but couldn't find anything substantial.
Does anyone know a way to add 1920x1080 resolutions to the GOG version of Sands of Time? I'd like to play it again, but with a more modern resolution. I did a little Googling, but couldn't find anything substantial.
As long as its closer to the trilogy and not the 2008 reboot... thing, I'm 100% on board.
Google uniws and download it. It support both SoT and WW. T2T doesn't need it.
The best PoP you probably never played is this:
A REALLY great PoP and action-adventure in general.
[Wii version is a different game respect the 360/PS3/PC one, that is still quite decent and fun]
A REALLY great PoP and action-adventure in general.
[Wii version is a different game respect the 360/PS3/PC one, that is still quite decent and fun]
You can read up on how to do widescreen res here, it's how I was able to do 1440p: https://pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Prince_of_Persia:_The_Sands_of_Time#Widescreen_resolution
Thank you for reading! I had a bouch of thoughts last night that I wasn't able to put down properly last night so I'll try to share what I remember.
Where was I? Ah yes, Prince of Persia The Two Thrones.
T2T is a wierd one. The game started off development as Prince of Persia The Kindred Blades and was also going to be more ambicious game.
The game was the struggle between light dark.
- Play and master two distinct characters: Wield the powers and weapons of two master warriors with different combat styles, attitudes, and histories.
- Choose your way to kill: Master the expanded Free-Form Fighting system to destroy enemies in your own style; strangle enemies from afar with the deadly Daggertail; or surprise them with full-speed one-shot kills using a brand new stealth art. The choice is yours.
- Battle freely through Babylon: Dominate enemies on the perilous rooftops, dodge through chaotic streets, and ambush pursuers in dark, underground passageways.
- Immerse yourself in a dramatic story: Experience unparalleled depth in storytelling as you fight your way through a twisting tale filled with adrenaline, tension and discovery.
- Manipulate time to surprise enemies: Execute powerful attacks against entire armies by slowing down or rewinding time, or surprise them by using some all-new Sands of Time powers.
- Experience a masterful blend of gameplay: True to the Prince of Persia franchise, the game provides a variety of action combat, agility and story-driven puzzles - all masterfully blended together into a rich gaming experience.
The main world design is a huge step back from PoP WW. It's no longer interconected or preserves any of the ''3d metroidvania'' the previous game. It was back on full on linear sands of time, I'd say even more so then the first game.
They tried to preserve what they could from KB so the basic ''stealth'' is also present here with the Prince being able to insta kill his enemies from behind if promped rightly. This was just functional and a wierd additon to the game. It felt really out of place imo.
The enemy/encounter design also took a huge step back from WW. There's the basic brutes, the archers and that's it for the most of the game. There's also hounds, Illusions, invisible enemies and bladedancers but they're rehased from WW and put into a new skin. The mini bosses also got removed with the except of one which is also a rehash from WW and takes on the form of a Trhall that you ride for a bit of time. It's the PoP game with the most bosses.
You got the huge Klompa that you fight in the arena. It's a decent fight but it relies too much on ''press the attack button when the dagger glows'' thing that they've added with the new stealth system.
Mahasti which is a shameless Shadee reskin once again. I don't consider this one very good tho it's sound, design and atmosphere are top notch.
The Twin Warriors is one of the best boss fight in the series and it really demands you to be mechanically decent and also listen to the Dark Prince's tips if you struggle. You vs 2 opponents stronger then you in a circle of fire with no sands power allowed. Best boss in the game by far.
Then the final boss is the transformed Vizier which is pretty good and nothing more too add.
Now that I've done talking about enemies I'd like to get right into the combat. The Two Thrones uses the great template they created for Warrior Within.
Sadly it's a bit dumbed down with them removing some of the awesome moves and combos you could do. If I had to guess around 30-40% was removed? I mean it makes sense since they also removed many of the enemy types so even if you had the full on system there was nothing that you could properly use it on since the game's encoutner design wasn't made for it.
One of the biggets additions to T2T was The Dark Prince which was a welcome and pretty awesome change. This one was also changed from Kindred Blades as is no longer being able to switch on the fly but now there's sections where you transform into it.
The Dark Prince works similar to the Sand Wraith from WW. Your life constnatly drains while you play as him and by only getting sands of time from enemies. Another addition to the combat was the Daggertail which serves as the Dark Prince's main weapon.
It kinda brakes the combat cuz it is prettly overpowerd and it doesn't take much skill to use it. You can perform some really decent combos but I feel like the enemies that the Dark Prince fights feel a bit damage spongey and they require you to mash the daggertail key till everything on screen is dead.
The platforming is just as good as it's ever been now with a side of change. They've even added these mid way supsended things that I can't name them which the Dark Prince is able to swing from one side to another with. A feature that Darksiders 3 also seems to have borrowed.
The Prince gets his platforming from WW except now he can attach to certain points with his dagger and also swing across one wall to the other with these launcher things that often made the game bug out lol.
TDP's platofrming is a bit diffrent. They added some extections for his wall running that he's able to attach to them and swing on a lager side wall without stoping or falling down. There's also chains placed around that you can slide down to take down enemies with your ''Steath''.
I think these are the most big diffrences that makes T2T stand out from the others. Oh and the chariot races which are pretty fun even tho they control a bit wierd and clunky.
They've tried to combine the first 2 games into one ambicious game that featured on paper the best prince of persia yet but the 1 year dev cycle didn't allow them to fully make their vision. Bits of what remained got ductaped into what became The Two Thrones.
TLDR
- Introduced the good platforming the series was well known and improved on it
- Dumbed down the combat on WW's formula
- Enemy variety and encounter was also dumbed down with most of them being reskined from the second game
- Wolrd design again, dumbed down in favor of goign full linear and not using WW's interconected template. The pacing and environments also suffers from this alot.
- Good story with some of the best dialgoue in the series. The Dark Prince has an amazing personatly and both Princes really do have some very good exchanges. It also has one of the best endings that I've seen in a game.
- Once again, Chatwood's soundtrack really makes everything better then it is.
While I think it's a good game and a fantastic send off to the Sands of Time trilogy, it felt a bit short and rushed. They're tried too many things at once and the final product suffred because of it.
3 years later after the SoT trilogy Ubisoft decided to reboot the series and thus came the known and loved Prince of Persia 2008.
This was pretty much a full on reboot since the only things similar to Prince of Persia was the fact that you could run on walls and the game title.
It was nothing like the other games. This one starts off with Nathan Drake wandering around the desert in search for his donkey wierdly named Farah and comes across his charming and beautiful companion Elika and thus the joruney beings. Oh I'm sorry did I say Nathen Drake? I meant the Prince of Persia ofc!
It's presentation is stellar with some of the most beautiful cell shaded styles in any game.
This one's gameplay and design are ... strange to say the least. The game's biggest emphasis is on platforming.
The world is parted into exactly 4 ways each of them with shrines that you need to ''heal'' from the corruption using Elika and at the end of each 1 boss fight.
Here is where the catch begins, you cannot die in this game. Wether it's platforming or combat you cannot get hurt or send back to a checkpoint. It's a instresting mechanic but I don't think it works in a game like this.
The game strangely also has combat which is wierd to me. What's the point of having combat in a game where you cannot die punished in way? Why are you able to engage in a battle where you could let your enemy hit you for 15 minutes while you're afk making your moring coffe? It also doesn't have much depth
It also features just 1 enemy type in all of the game which spawns from time to time in all the zones and 4 bosses, 5 with the final one.
Back to your objective tho, so in each path like I said above you're supposed to heal the shrines but you see Elika needs these little blue lights that are scarred around like world to be able to progress in the game's story. Oh think that's optional content? Well think again cuz the game forces you to grind ALL of them to unlock the gates to each zone and finish the game.
PoP 2008 goes like this.
Go to Path 1> Fight the generic type enemy > Clear the Shrines> Collect all the Blue Lights> Beat The Path 1 Final Boss.
Go back to the HUB area to unlock your new platforming ability to enter the next zone.
Go to Path 2> Fight the generic type enemy > Clear the Shrines> Collect all the Blue Lights> Beat The Path 2 Final Boss.
Go back to the HUB area to unlock your new platforming ability to enter the next zone.
Go to Path 3> Fight the generic type enemy > Clear the Shrines> Collect all the Blue Lights> Beat The Path 3 Final Boss.
Go back... yeah I think you get it by now. The game is very repetitive in it's own strucutre. It's bound to happen when everything about it is so simple and autopilot.
I legit think you can finish the game with just 1 button and pressing the stick foward. It's so shallow, grindy, repetitive and boring.
Prince of Persia 2008 is one the most beautiful games that I've ever played with stellar art direction and top notch soundtrack. But it's gameplay is pretty mediocre and fails to reward you as a player. I'm not too fond of it and it's my least played in the series.
I guess some prefer the presentation over the gameplay. The game was well recived by critics and some fans but It sold poorly by Ubi's expecation and this resulted them going back the SoT era with their latest game PoP The Forgotten Sands.
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It's both. It's not fun to hit enemies. The animation and sound design is wonky at best.
People try to be dismissive when they talk about SoT's combat sections, but it makes up like half the game. WW found a much better balance between the platforming and combat,
I haven't played 2008 but my rankings are
1. SoT
2. Forgotten Sands (PS360)
3. Warrior Within
4. Two Thrones.
If you like the series and or Uncharted games but with actual platforming i highly recomend Forgotten Sands
Thanks. I never knew TT was a bunch of scraped ideas. It makes sense because, to me, it was the weaker entry in the SoT trilogy. Since the first time I played it I had this feeling of never being as good as the other two while some parts of it felt really unfinished. That story actually explains a lot. I would love if Ubisoft could go back o the original version and actually finish it.
Regarding 2008, we agree that it's a weird game, however, I do think it's a good PoP game. It's been a while since I last played so there's a good chance nostalgia is talking here. At the time I was trophy hunting and one of the trophies was to finish the game with Eliza saving your ass less than a 100 times. This made the game much better and more difficult because I actually had to pay attention to all platforming traps and combat since I had this "life limit". It made the game much, much better.
I kinda wish Ubisoft would make a follow-up to 2008 and make the game tough as nails and without Eliza saving the Prince. The platforming got more interesting because of the added traps as you defeated each zone boss and the combat, from my memories, was too simple while relying too much on counters and reflexes. The should pull a "WW" entry for 2008. The world has gone to shit, platforming and combat gets much more expanded and we get more of the Prince/Eliza combo and, hopefully, Ubisoft gets a ton of money. Win-Win.
I'm up for that but I wouldn't touch a 2008 sequel unless they really revamped the gameplay and made it more complex.
Also never cast Nolan North as the Prince ever again. Give me Yuri or Robin.
i would love to have a new PoP but knowing ubisoft they would fill with hand holding platforming , stupid tail missions , open world and towers, meaningless side quests , a season pass before game came out, focusing on graphics instead of crafting truly special and while doing shitting on PoP legacy such as saying this is return form !! even bribing some PoP fans from old days to make them appear in marketing material.
So truly no. But i would love remaster
So truly no. But i would love remaster
The Sands of Time is one of the best games ever made.
Warrior Within was a challenging game and the combat was excellent.
I loved the way they fused platforming and combat together in The Two Thrones.
What a fantastic trilogy that was. I'd be excited for a new Prince of Persia game but equally pessimistic about it given today's practices and trends.
Warrior Within was a challenging game and the combat was excellent.
I loved the way they fused platforming and combat together in The Two Thrones.
What a fantastic trilogy that was. I'd be excited for a new Prince of Persia game but equally pessimistic about it given today's practices and trends.
Sands of Time was, and still is my favourite of the SoT trilogy. Warrior Within was good, but i can agree with some reasons why people don't like it. One of which was it's use of rock music. But none the less, it felt fresher and the combat was more fluid than before. Two Thrones was a great send off for the SoT, again i enjoyed it muchly.
Forgotten Sands however, that's a different story. I thought it felt too easy in comparison to the trilogy prior to this.
Should the trilogy be left alone. If it was remade nicely with updated controls and stuff, i'd be happy with that.
Forgotten Sands however, that's a different story. I thought it felt too easy in comparison to the trilogy prior to this.
Should the trilogy be left alone. If it was remade nicely with updated controls and stuff, i'd be happy with that.
Prince of Persia definitely needs to make a comeback. The Sands of Time trilogy was wonderful and, in my humble opinion, better than any Assassin's Creed that came after them.
I think the Sands of Time Trilogy specifically should be left alone. Don't try to release another Forgotten Sands-style sequel that tries to capture and slightly update its formula. I'd totally snap up the PoPSoT Trilogy HD Collection for current gen systems, though (I suppose that also means I'd be hyped for a SotC-style remaster).
This however doesn't mean I think the Prince of Persia IP should be left to rot. I fucking loved PoP2008 and it always bummed me out that there was so much furore surrounding its design to the point that between the extremely harsh criticism from the community and its meager sales we never got a sequel. I'm not pushing for an actual sequel to 2008, but god I'd love to see a new, artful and colourful Prince of Persia that stood out like that. Give us a game that learns some lessons from 2008's failings, incorporates Sands of Time's legacy but doesn't try to be the kind of milque-toast semi-sequel that Forgotten Sands was. Something like that would probably be a great fit for the Switch if Ubi wanted to make something else for it that wasn't a port or the sequel to Kingdom Battle that we'll inevitably get (which isn't shade, I loved that game).
This however doesn't mean I think the Prince of Persia IP should be left to rot. I fucking loved PoP2008 and it always bummed me out that there was so much furore surrounding its design to the point that between the extremely harsh criticism from the community and its meager sales we never got a sequel. I'm not pushing for an actual sequel to 2008, but god I'd love to see a new, artful and colourful Prince of Persia that stood out like that. Give us a game that learns some lessons from 2008's failings, incorporates Sands of Time's legacy but doesn't try to be the kind of milque-toast semi-sequel that Forgotten Sands was. Something like that would probably be a great fit for the Switch if Ubi wanted to make something else for it that wasn't a port or the sequel to Kingdom Battle that we'll inevitably get (which isn't shade, I loved that game).
The Sands of Time itself? No. Everything else? Yes. PoP '08 on the other hand deserves a full remaster and a proper sequel not tied to the DS.
I only played SoT. It's a good game, reminded me a bit of the original Tomb Raider.
PoP 2008 was such a disappointment tho. Incredible presentation, really bad platforming and combat.
Have you played Mirror's Edge? The parkour in ME is much better than in PoP.
PoP 2008 was such a disappointment tho. Incredible presentation, really bad platforming and combat.
Have you played Mirror's Edge? The parkour in ME is much better than in PoP.
My worry with bringing it back is that it would stick to modern gaming trends and thus become the very thing people hate about games like uncharted. POP08 somehow managed to be even more dumbed down than even uncharted and that takes some serious effort. What makes anyone think things would be any different this time? Gaming moved beyond skill based traversal, the market prefers what uncharted and tomb raider does even if we forum dwellers don't.
I'd still love to see at least a re-release of those games in some form. The end of Two Thrones is still up there with some of my favourite video games.
That's a tough one to answer - but I think it needs to be left alone as It was one of the most memorable and complete trilogies I played and I want it's legacy to remain intact.
I do,however,want a new POP game. Badly.
I do,however,want a new POP game. Badly.