You meant to quote me, but everything that has been criticized of them have been directly from their videos, so there is no de-railing at all.They're effectively banned because we can't have a discussion on their actual videos without conversation about everything else taking over.
I would hope that moderators would decide to ban them or stop letting the threads be derailed with this crap. One or the other
I would agree the focus isnt on the meat and potatoes of the video though, but thats how putting out a YouTube video works. You (as a content creator) dont get to dictate what a watcher focuses on if its in the video with the rest of your stuff.
So give them their own OT so non-fans can ignore it, and Fans can discuss and support