For sure. It'll probably be Sony's biggest first party game in terms of sales, launch records, and reviews.
Cyberpunk 2077, I think will be the biggest game of 2020, though.
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For sure. It'll probably be Sony's biggest first party game in terms of sales, launch records, and reviews.
Cyberpunk 2077, I think will be the biggest game of 2020, though.
I won't fall for that again lol, I don't know, I believe it won't have much marketing before December.
I think that next-gen launch games will not be pushovers. 1 or 2 could even end up in GotY discussions. But yes, TLOU2 and Cyberpunk will probably be the biggest games of the year.
The Last of Us Part II is gonna blow all other big PS4 exclusives out of the water.
Here's Until Dawn's co-lead writer Graham Reznick for Rely on Horror in 2015. I'll just quote one excerpt:
- "In UNTIL DAWN we used elements of the genre tropes and the cheesy aspects of the genre to create a specific atmosphere that's then twisted and reshaped. It's all intentional and done with a lot of care. If you hear a line that makes you laugh or cringe and you're like "Oh my god, that's ridiculous," chances are high that we thought so too!"
And this is Until Dawn's director Will Byles, during the same period:
- "Above all we are trying to entertain. Horror is a great way to do that (if you like horror), because after every scare, there is laughter. In a group it makes for a very social experience."
These are, next to Larry Fessenden, the two most important people in the development of Until Dawn, both stating that humor and parody, were creative sources behind the project. In contrast, Keiichiro Toyama had the next to say when promoting the original Silent Hill: "The second (thing) we want is to inspire the fears from a player's innermost instincts... The town is covered in fog and players won't be able to see things in the distance. That creates an atmosphere of nameless uneasiness (...), that's exactly what we want the players to feel".
Toyama didn't envision Silent Hill or Siren to make people laugh. It's an impossible proposition, one where his works are compared to the likes of Until Dawn. It is not (never said such thing) an straight comedy (though it was a full-on parody at the start, both glib and cheesy, according to Byles himself), pivoting instead on a combination of humor and tension against an slasher homage backdrop.
That is the creators' vision, by their own words, regardless of your or my opinion. If you want to rebate this, please, elaborate your answer. Saying "ok" is nothing but a way to make your disagreement known, and adds nothing to the conversation.
Sales ?Cyberpunk will sell more than Part 2 with PS4+Xbox+PC.Cyberpunk will not beat COD.
Reviews is where it's always tricky, and I only say this because GoW scored a 94 which isn't easy to beat. But then again we are talking about ND, a studio that still managed a 93 for UC4 after they had to basically scrap much of the game and redo it in 2 years.
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if we just take the sales on the ps4 platform, then i think Tlou will be the best selling Ps4 Title in the first half year, followed by Cyberpunk and Final Fantasy 7 Remake
TLOU 2 is going to get pushed on PS5 with an ENHANCED UBER 4K/60FPS EDITION so yes, i see TLOU 2 selling more than SpooderMan.
WW or US only?
If US only i can see MW in 3rd place easily.
I wonder if Sony wants to get TLOU2 out before they begin PS5 marketing. The two of those are their two biggest things in 2020, and they may not want the PS4 release of TLOU2 to clash with PS5 marketing. Maybe not though, because it didn't seem to be an issue in 2013 with TLOU and PS4.
In fact, I know people that pre-ordered PS4s just based on how good TLOU was (I think pre-orders opening for PS4 and TLOU release was right around the same time). They wanted to see what else Sony had to offer. So there definitely could be some S Y N E R G Y there with the two.
In fact, I know people that pre-ordered PS4s just based on how good TLOU was (I think pre-orders opening for PS4 and TLOU release was right around the same time). They wanted to see what else Sony had to offer. So there definitely could be some S Y N E R G Y there with the two.
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is that game also coming out in the first half year of 2020? (since i was only referring to that time period of sales)
If released in February TLOU2 will outsell Spider-Man before PS5 arrives in November.
Nope, but i do think MW will sell a lot in the first half of 2020.
Hmmm. I have Ellie Edition of the first game, so might get this EE for collectors sake, but depends on what the other versions have and for what price.
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Standard Edition, Special Edition, Collectors Edition, Ellie Edition
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i should have mentioned, that i just meant new releases during the first 6 months of 2020
Otherwise Fifa would also be on the Top
I think it won't, because I totally expect it's violence and support of LGBT to make it censored in more than a few countries
The Japanese version is going to be interesting for sure.
MK11 is banned in several regions in Asia, but i don't think TLOU2 will reach MK gore but at the same time it's pretty violent.
It is way better than homecoming personally way more character to it
Supermassive is making PS4 games, we just don't know if it's UD, new IP, VR... https://gematsu.com/2018/11/supermassive-games-working-on-several-unannounced-playstation-exclusives
The Inpatient and Hidden Agenda weren't that successful tho.
That guy talking about the whole Remedy/Sony rumors on his podcast.
This was recorded before Push Square posted that info/rumor.
This was recorded before Push Square posted that info/rumor.
There's been a pattern in this thread for as far as I can remember, where games which disappointed either critically or commercially are wished to make a comeback, while others that did much better are ripped to shreds on a daily basis.
It must be the underdog syndrome. But there's usually a very good reason why those games didn't catch on.
It must be the underdog syndrome. But there's usually a very good reason why those games didn't catch on.
He didn't think that through, I guess. Sony has studios that make better games than anybody. It also has other teams that could learn more than a few tricks from Remedy.
folks have different tastes in games, there's not much there to examine. The Order 1886, for whatever reason, was a game a lot of folks really liked, or liked the potential that franchise could have, for example.
Unlike what the general thinking is, Sony doesn't make the same games over and over again. Even though HZD and Days Gone are both open world games, HZD ended up being my favorite game Sony has published this gen while I haven't even touched Days Gone. I'm sure there's someone that feels the opposite of me. SIE actually has a wide range of different experiences that different folks attach to.
The whole "Sony's first party makes better games than Remedy, why take them in?" argument is such nonsense. As if a gaming studio never evolved when paired with the correct publisher.
Yeah, look no further than Guerrilla. At the time that Sony purchased them these were their two games
ShellShock: Nam '67 - 58
Killzone - 70
And as it stands Remedy is a great developer. Their games tend to have great stories and their gunplay mechanics are some of the best in the industry.
Something to consider about Remedy: even though they're quite big in size (200+), those people are spread over 3 projects: Control, the single player campaign for CrossFire X and an unannounced 3rd project. Just imagine how much bigger and better their games could be if all those people worked on the same game.
On a semi related to note to what you was saying
Nobody NOBODY! was asking for no damn syphon filter all gen until days gone was announced
Yeah, what the hell is he smoking? Bend's now a developer I'm paying attention to. I've paid close attention to ND since Uncharted 2. I'm now a huge Guerrilla fan. Santa Monica was just there for me with Kinetica but became a developer I really respected after God of War.
Like, what if Remedy joined and made REALLY good AA games with a budget? They'd likely be great since WWS developers get a ton of creative freedom.
He said that Sony should invest in studios that could offer something they do not have now (racing games, JRPGs and so on)
Seriously I just noticed how close they are, and those are like the only two games I am still looking forward to in this gen... ugh.
Yeah that would be terrible. Overall I'm scared for P5 Royal performance, it's a big AA release I don't wan to see it fail but Q1 is really bad for it outside of maybe January. If TLOU is really in February than launching a PS4 exclusive near it would be suicide than after that in March there is FFVII Remake which is even bigger competition for P5 and April Cyberpunk with lot of other games in between. Maybe they should look at May or June while I know that's late maybe it's better for the game? I think Atlus have some tough decision to make. Too bad the game won't make it to 2019 I think it would have better chance to sell then than in early 2020.
I genuinely think that WW if talking only PS4 sales FFVIIR will be above Cyberpunk. VIIR is a long awaited game, deeply rooted in PS brand with SE surprisingly nailing the marketing if E3 is anything to go by and also Sony may also help with that $$$. I'm thinking it will be like Crash Trilogy but on a bigger scale. Cyberpunk while huge will also be on other platforms and personally if I'm going to play it it will be on PC. TLOU part II should be number 1 though.
This. I hope TLOU is early February.
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