SIE Worldwide Studios |OT5| Part II

Raylan · Dec 10, 2019

Now is the time for Jim Ryan or Hermen Hulst to speak up and clarify what Sony's upcoming strategy is. Phil Spencer did it so I'm sure Sony can do this to.

Things are changing. Xbox Live coming to Minecraft on PS4, Sony first-party single-player games on PC, Sony first-party games on Switch and Xbox.

I guess Jason Schreier's comment about Sony being scared of Google's entry into the video game market was true. And it's not only that. It looks like they are terrified of Microsoft's aggressive efforts and their Game Pass subscription service. Then there is Nintendo killing it with the Switch.

Jim Ryan mentioned that he wants to avoid complacency. Therefore the restructuring process inside SIE right now. They are getting ready for one last console generation with the upcoming PlayStation 5. At the same time they are slowly becoming a multiplatform publisher. As you can witness right now.

Soon everything will be on PC and even on different consoles so you don't have to buy a PlayStation console anymore. With and without PS Now.

WhiteNovember · Dec 10, 2019

Sorel said:
I'm confident you'll have to wait far longer than you think. Like for example PS5 emulation kind of time to wait. Why buy demon's souls in 2009 when I can wait and play it in 2019 on PC completely free. In reality most people don't wait too long to play games they're interested in.

This.

orochi91 · Dec 10, 2019

Mario Bilo said:
I'm sorry but how would you know that? I know your answer is going to be look at what's happening this gen but then I'll say to you look at what happened last gen and how it's not at all the same as what is happening this gen.

And again, God of War, Horizon, TLOUS, Uncharted or Spiderman are not being announced as multiplatform games. MLB the Show is. Let that sink in before you type in another response, please.

With regards to the first point, you are correct, there's no way of knowing that. We are in uncharted territory here (pun intended).

To the second point, I'll agree with you if TGAs come and go with no HZD PC announcement.

TheModestGun · Dec 10, 2019

Why are there so many dummies that are acting like Sony is suddenly just going to stop having exclusives because a sports license is going multi platform. Come on. Good lord the melt downs in here are stupid. It makes it not even fun.

Sorel · Dec 10, 2019

orochi91 said:
I mean, yea.

They'll be exclusive for a period of time, at which point this whole scenario plays out all over again.

Patient gamers will be the true winners next-gen, lol

They'll be exclusives the entire generation.

TheModestGun said:
Why are there so many dummies that are acting like Sony is suddenly just going to stop having exclusives because a sports license is going multi platform. Come on. Good lord the melt downs in here are stupid. It makes it not even fun.

I do kinda chuckle at time ^^.

John Frost · Dec 10, 2019

TheModestGun said:
Why are there so many dummies that are acting like Sony is suddenly just going to stop having exclusives because a sports license is going multi platform. Come on. Good lord the melt downs in here are stupid. It makes it not even fun.

But Horizon is coming to PC haven't you heard!?

Sonicfan059 · Dec 10, 2019

TheModestGun said:
Why are there so many dummies that are acting like Sony is suddenly just going to stop having exclusives because a sports license is going multi platform. Come on. Good lord the melt downs in here are stupid. It makes it not even fun.

Closet Xbox fans or people who dislike consoles in general.

orochi91 · Dec 10, 2019

John Frost said:
But Horizon is coming to PC haven't you heard!?

Fam at least wait till TGAs before shooting that rumour down.

Imitation Of Life · Dec 10, 2019

orochi91 said:
I mean, yea.

They'll be exclusive for a period of time, at which point this whole scenario plays out all over again.

Patient gamers will be the true winners next-gen, lol

Zhuge said something about new games too. No one would have thought MLB would be on another console. We are entering uncharted territory. Quasi-timed exclusivity would not shock me before PC release and even simultaneous releases for some games. I'd just like to know before next generation starts. If I can get everything but Nintendo on one platform peace out!

Soprano · Dec 10, 2019

Yeah Sony needs to be more up front about their future plans for first party. Crazy that we're finding out about this stuff out of nowhere. Let people know what games are going multiplatform so they can decide if they want to buy a PS5 or not. Or even keep playing on PS4. If you're going the MS route, announce it already.

DangerMouse said:
Pretty much. I don't see how they get people to buy PS5's "faster than ever" if they were to multiplat everything. Which is what they've still said they want to do.

Jim Ryan was mistaken. He was talking about PC obviously.

Heri · Dec 10, 2019

TheModestGun said:
Why are there so many dummies that are acting like Sony is suddenly just going to stop having exclusives because a sports license is going multi platform. Come on. Good lord the melt downs in here are stupid. It makes it not even fun.

Because they want Sony out of the console race. Note how the other companies are excluded from the conversation because of reasons.

Chopin the Third · Dec 10, 2019

orochi91 said:
Fam at least wait till TGAs before shooting that rumour down.

Wouldn't SoP be the more likely place for an announcement?

orochi91 · Dec 10, 2019

Imitation Of Life said:
Zhuge said something about new games too. No one would have thought MLB would be on another console. We are entering uncharted territory. Quasi-timed exclusivity would not shock me before PC release and even simultaneous releases for some games. I'd just like to know before next generation starts. If I can get everything but Nintendo on one platform peace out!

Honestly, I'm just gonna do what AudioEppa said in the other thread.

Slap a PS sticker on my PC, and hook up a DualShock 5 to it.

Boom. It's the greatest compromise ever, lol

John Frost · Dec 10, 2019

orochi91 said:
Fam at least wait till TGAs before shooting that rumour down.

Sony is done sorry.

orochi91 · Dec 10, 2019

Chopin the Third said:
Wouldn't SoP be the more likely place for an announcement?

The original source of this rumour (4chan) specified TGAs.

If it's gonna be tomorrow, then great, we can engage in more concrete speculations regarding the future of WWS. I'd rather not have to wait till the TGAs before we get a statement from Jim Ryan and Herman Hulst.

John Frost said:
Sony is done sorry.

Damn.

Didn't even give Sony a chance.

Mohsenix · Dec 10, 2019

Raylan said:
Now is the time for Jim Ryan or Hermen Hulst to speak up and clarify what Sony's upcoming strategy is. Phil Spencer did it so I'm sure Sony can do this to.

Things are changing. Xbox Live coming to Minecraft on PS4, Sony first-party single-player games on PC, Sony first-party games on Switch and Xbox.

I guess Jason Schreier's comment about Sony being scared of Google's entry into the video game market was true. And it's not only that. It looks like they are terrified of Microsoft's aggressive efforts and their Game Pass subscription service. Then there is Nintendo killing it with the Switch.

Jim Ryan mentioned that he wants to avoid complacency. Therefore the restructuring process inside SIE right now. They are getting ready for one last console generation with the upcoming PlayStation 5. At the same time they are slowly becoming a multiplatform publisher. As you can witness right now.

Soon everything will be on PC and even on different consoles so you don't have to buy a PlayStation console anymore. With and without PS Now.

Why would Sony want to become a publisher and kill PlayStation when it's the biggest source of revenue for them?

It made sense for Microsoft, but not so much for Sony. Especially after a hugely successful generation with 110+ millions of consoles sold.

They're expanding a bit (The Show), giving away the games they don't see any future in (Detroit) and are open to sign contracts when they see potential (Death Stranding).

I don't see Sony going the same route as MS ever.

DeadOblivion78 · Dec 10, 2019

There is way too much panicking happening on this site over a baseball game.

ElephantShell · Dec 10, 2019

kyshakk said:
There is way too much panicking happening on this site over a baseball game.

Era doesn't care about sports games... unless this happens.

STech · Dec 10, 2019

Yeah, super super fine

orochi91 · Dec 10, 2019

kyshakk said:
There is way too much panicking happening on this site over a baseball game.

ElephantShell said:
Era doesn't care about sports games... unless this happens.

It's not about the game specifically, but rather about the implications for the rest of WWS.

DeadOblivion78 · Dec 10, 2019

ElephantShell said:
Era doesn't care about sports games... unless this happens.

People really think that because MLB the Show is going multi-platform, all of a sudden everything is? That's the stupidest conclusion a person could possibly have right now.

DeadOblivion78 · Dec 10, 2019

People are jumping to conclusions way too fast. MLB goes multiplatform and now everything is? What a stupid reaction.

Loudninja · Dec 10, 2019

kyshakk said:
There is way too much panicking happening on this site over a baseball game.

I think its a pretty damn cool thing as well since baseball games dont really exist elsewhere which is odd.

orochi91 · Dec 10, 2019

kyshakk said:
People are jumping to conclusions way too fast. MLB goes multiplatform and now everything is? What a stupid reaction.

We'll know soon enough.

TGAs are only a week away.

Imitation Of Life · Dec 10, 2019

kyshakk said:
People really think that because MLB the Show is going multi-platform, all of a sudden everything is? That's the stupidest conclusion a person could possibly have right now.

Zhuge made a tweet saying they are exploring their options with new games and their back catalog. That implies more than just MLB. Just seems strange for people saying they want to push PS5 transition as fast as possible.

orochi91 said:
We'll know soon enough.

TGAs are only a week away.

TGAs is Thursday night.

Raylan · Dec 10, 2019

Mohsenix said:
Why would Sony want to become a publisher and kill PlayStation when it's the biggest source of revenue for them?

It made sense for Microsoft, but not so much for Sony. Especially after a hugely successful generation with 110+ millions of consoles sold.

They're expanding a bit (The Show), giving away the games they don't see any future in (Detroit) and are open to sign contracts when they see potential (Death Stranding).

I don't see Sony going the same route as MS ever.

Seems like next generation will be the last one so they are preparing for a future without hardware. They are going the same route as Microsoft.

AngelOFDeath · Dec 10, 2019

Dreams should release on PC. The content we would get from that would be worth it alone

Thiago · Dec 10, 2019

orochi91 said:
We'll know soon enough.

TGAs are only a week away.

You mean 2 days away.

Macca · Dec 10, 2019

Let's be honest. They would probably not be able to keep the MLB license without going multiplatform.

s y · Dec 10, 2019

orochi91 said:
We'll know soon enough.

TGAs are only a week away.

only 3 days away as a matter of fact

Imitation Of Life · Dec 10, 2019

Raylan said:
Seems like next generation will be the last one so they are preparing for a future without hardware. They are going the same route as Microsoft.

Phil Spencer said he doesn't plan on this being the last generation. Not everyone wants to play on PC or stream games. Consoles still have a place for a long time.I

McMoneyman said:
Let's be honest. They would probably not be able to keep the MLB license without going multiplatform.
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Why not? The license wasn't exclusive, the quality is top notch and there are no competitors. The license apparently is exclusive now though. Just seems like a business deal not an extortion.

Alpha_ulquiorra · Dec 10, 2019

orochi91 said:
It's not about the game specifically, but rather about the implications for the rest of WWS.

Does the rest of SIE WWS make licensed sports games that they cold lose to other publishers?

Ghost Slayer · Dec 10, 2019

I'm okay with Sony having their own PC launcher as long as they support cross-buy

orochi91 · Dec 10, 2019

Imitation Of Life said:
Zhuge made a tweet saying they are exploring their options with new games and their back catalog. That implies more than just MLB. Just seems strange for people saying they want to push PS5 transition as fast as possible.

TGAs is Thursday night.

ThiagoJG said:
You mean 2 days away.

s y said:
only 3 days away as a matter of fact

Ah shit.

I'll adjust my calendar.

Alpha_ulquiorra said:
Does the rest of SIE WWS make licensed sports games that they cold lose to other publishers?

TGAs will reveal all~~~

NediarPT88 · Dec 10, 2019

Chopin the Third said:
Wouldn't SoP be the more likely place for an announcement?

I can only imagine the amount of dislikes and comments if something like that happened lol

SoP is aimed primarly to PS players so having a PC announcement there wouldn't make much sense imo.

Imitation Of Life · Dec 10, 2019

NediarPT88 said:
I can only imagine the amount of dislikes and comments if something like that happened lol

SoP is aimed primarly to PS players so having a PC announcement there wouldn't make much sense imo.

Saving it for TGA will just delay the negativity for 2 days.

Raylan · Dec 10, 2019

Imitation Of Life said:
Phil Spencer said he doesn't plan on this being the last generation. Not everyone wants to play on PC or stream games. Consoles still have a place for a long time.

Well it doesn't matter what he hopes. Things will be different in 2027. Sony is preparing to adapt. You can see it right now. Microsoft's and Sony's strategies are to go multiplatform. Selling software, not hardware. Exclusives are dying.

Heri · Dec 10, 2019

orochi91 said:
Ah shit.

I'll adjust my calendar.

TGAs will reveal all~~~

Even if it is not announced, all this conversation about SIE games on other systems is not going to end.

orochi91 · Dec 10, 2019

Raylan said:
Well it doesn't matter what he hopes. Things will be different in 2027. Sony is preparing to adapt. You can see it right now. Microsoft's and Sony's strategies are to go multiplatform. Selling software, not hardware. Exclusives are dying.

What's your theory on why Nintendo is able to continue as is, while not caring about its competitors going multiplat.

JaseC64 · Dec 10, 2019

orochi91 said:
Fam at least wait till TGAs before shooting that rumour down.

There is an actual rumor of Horizon coming to PC? Lol sure if they want to throw their ecosystem out the door.

Jaxar · Dec 10, 2019

Raylan said:
Jim Ryan mentioned that he wants to avoid complacency. Therefore the restructuring process inside SIE right now. They are getting ready for one last console generation with the upcoming PlayStation 5. At the same time they are slowly becoming a multiplatform publisher. As you can witness right now.

Soon everything will be on PC and even on different consoles so you don't have to buy a PlayStation console anymore. With and without PS Now.

Oh wow... this place has gone nuts.

Angie · Dec 10, 2019

How did this thread gained 7 pages in just a few hours? What happened?

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Imitation Of Life · Dec 10, 2019

Raylan said:
Well it doesn't matter what he hopes. Things will be different in 2027. Sony is preparing to adapt. You can see it right now. Microsoft's and Sony's strategies are to go multiplatform. Selling software, not hardware. Exclusives are dying.

You sell less hardware if you are cutting out entire demographics that can't afford PC or want gaming and/or don't have internet capability to stream. It's about OPTIONS. There is zero reason to eliminate consoles even if they are not the dominant market which they still could be. Sony is selling 120 million PS4s and you think PS5 is the end? Get real.

orochi91 · Dec 10, 2019

Heri said:
Even if it is not announced, all this conversation about SIE games on other systems is not going to end.

This is entirely on Sony, they've repeatedly set the precedent this year by making these kind of moves.

I've never seen this much confusion or doubt among their fanbase on the eve of a new generation. Their near radio silence over the past 2 years has compounded this even further.

PlanetSmasher · Dec 10, 2019

Raylan said:
Well it doesn't matter what he hopes. Things will be different in 2027. Sony is preparing to adapt. You can see it right now. Microsoft's and Sony's strategies are to go multiplatform. Selling software, not hardware. Exclusives are dying.

Then we can look forward to even less and less games out of companies like Sony than ever before. Without a console, there's significantly less reason to bother with a diverse portfolio of games,

John Frost · Dec 10, 2019

Angie22 said:
How did this thread gained 7 pages in just a few hours? What happened?

MLB is now multiplat, Horizon is rumored to be coming out on PC.

The end is now.

nolifebr · Dec 10, 2019

Angie22 said:
How did this thread gained 7 pages in just a few hours? What happened?

We're already discussing when the PlayStation division will close, buddy

Callibretto · Dec 10, 2019

Angie22 said:
How did this thread gained 7 pages in just a few hours? What happened?

MLB happened, the most important game this generation and what will define Sony going forward from now on

Kenzodielocke · Dec 10, 2019

It essentially went like MLB telling Sony to go multiplatform or not develop and publish it anymore. They chose to agree on those terms.

Sony two years ago probably would have dropped the license.

Edit: Also I am getting my wish of having a new OT before the SoP thanks to MLB.

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