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Siege >1 billion in revenue, Odyssey sales >Origin sales, FC5 is the highest selling Ubi game in this gen, The Division 2 uPlay sales x10

Oct 25, 2017
4,617
There is no reason for a Siege 2 at the point.
There's nothing that Siege 2 can bring about right now or even in the next year or two that would justify a sequel and giving up everything that we have right now with regards to the content, the community, and esport. (And no "better destruction" is not it, the game can already do far better destruction than there is in the game but it doesn't do it because it kills the balance the game. Same for a few other things like particle effects and lighting which are actually simpler than they were at launch for balancing and playabilitypurpose).
 
Oct 25, 2017
470
Man remember when Siege didn't launch great and then it turned the corner, holy shit
I remember thinking how disappointed I was going to be that such a great game was going to fail. The big talking points at the time were it was too expensive for a multiplayer only game and it was too hardcore to appeal to most people.

I am so glad Ubisoft didn't give up on it.
 
Oct 29, 2017
774
The best AAA company in the biz.

The tactic to push uPlay through EGS works lol.
I agree. They had some missteps early this gen, but have been putting out very high quality the last 2 years. FC5 and New Dawn were both excellent, the long-term support of Siege transformed it from a huge flop to the best round-based competitive shooter in the market right now. Odyssey was also a very pleasant surprise. Can’t wait to pick up Division 2 once it drops in price a bit.
 

Eon

Member
Nov 21, 2017
1,018
Splinter Cell, Watch Dogs 3, AC Ragnarok.
Duh...I feel dumb. Forgot all of these for leaked.

Splinter Cell is iffy and I have no interest in a Nordic AC, however, that’s what I thought with Odyssey and I loved that game...mostly due to Kassandra. I’ll buy WD3 day one. Is it really set in London?
 
Oct 27, 2017
220
There is little to no reason to buy on EGS instead of Uplay. Prices are the same, Uplay supports local currency (at least over here) and has more features. Also there is almost no social component to keep you engaged on the Epic Store, so no surprise people opt to buy directly from Ubisoft.

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"Slight move away from North American exposure. "

And their response to that was to raise the price of the "Gold" editions when comparing Breakpoint to the Division 2 by 50% in my region...
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,617
There is little to no reason to buy on EGS instead of Uplay. Prices are the same, Uplay supports local currency (at least over here) and has more features. Also there is almost no social component to keep you engaged on the Epic Store, so no surprise people opt to buy directly from Ubisoft.

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"Slight move away from North American exposure. "

And their response to that was to raise the price of the "Gold" editions when comparing Breakpoint to the Division 2 by 50% in my region...
It depends on where you are. EGS has better support for region appropriate pricing than uplay in terms of how many countries it supports.
For instance uplay in India uses the EU store with EU prices in Euro (so 60 euro standard versions pre 20% discount), standard ver of Ghost Recon and Div 2 on EGS are $42 on the other hand. The most expensive version of Breakpoint is like 100 euros on uplay whereas it's only $75 on EGS India, that's an enormous difference. The EGS store copy is basically an activation portal for a uplay copy.
 
Oct 27, 2017
646
Deserved. Siege is great game as well their other titles. I always loved Ubisoft approach to trying new IPs. I even enjoyed OG Watch Dogs.
 
Oct 27, 2017
220
It depends on where you are. EGS has better support for region appropriate pricing than uplay in terms of how many countries it supports.
For instance uplay in India uses the EU store with EU prices in Euro (so 60 euro standard versions pre 20% discount), standard ver of Ghost Recon and Div 2 on EGS are $42 on the other hand. The most expensive version of Breakpoint is like 100 euros on uplay whereas it's only $75 on EGS India, that's an enormous difference. The EGS store copy is basically an activation portal for a uplay copy.
Yes, if there is no regional support on the Ubi store for a region than that's one of the few cases where buying on EGS is the better choice.

Interesting thing about the prices you mentioned... at least in some regions Ubisoft appears to be adjusting them to less "tiers" for regional prices. They are also in line with prices over here (Brazil) and Russia (which means the base edition of Breakpoint is also 45% more expensive than The Division 2 over there).
 
Oct 27, 2017
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i'm kinda blown away that FC5 is their biggest title this gen, i thought it did "ok". glad to see a decent increase for switch as well.
happy for ubi, i think they're hands down the best western publisher, so many great games, and the most impressive variety in games out of any publisher, 1st or 3rd party.
 
Nov 1, 2017
1,723
Colorado
Well deserved, Ubi is easily my favorite big publisher right now. The Division 2 is such an incredible game, and I jumped into Steep over the winter when it was snowy outside, and that's a great game as well. I can't wait to get into AC: Odyssey later this year. I've always been a fan of their games, but the last few years they've released some great games.
 
May 23, 2018
307
The support for Siege has been insane. Investing money in that game is actually worth it. Happy for that team.

Far Cry fatigue seems to have been blown way out of proportion.
 
Oct 30, 2017
772
EGS is so bad it's pushing people to the uPlay store, at least it did for me. What are the chances of Anno 1800 ever returning to Steam?
 
Oct 27, 2017
795
Ubisoft is the best publisher this gen when it comes to supporting their games post-release while still feeling like the games are complete when launched.

Take notes, EA.
 

Ge0force

Self-requested ban.
Member
Oct 28, 2017
5,265
Belgium
Ubisoft getting paid by Epic to move over customers to uPlay is one of the greatest hustles in the history of gaming.
Indeed, that's one of the most hilarious tricks I've seen in the games industry.

Because of this, in combination with Ubisofts actions against game keys and their recent limitations on uplay points, I lost most of my respect for them tho.
 
Oct 27, 2017
5,235
I feel as though Far Cry Arcade was a missed opportunity. Rather than tie it down to Far Cry 5, it should’ve been it’s own separate entity.

Some of the maps people have made are amazing. They could’ve made it ftp and added little asset packs to make a little money on it. Throw in some bonus Ubi game themed assets for owners of other Ubi titles. Such a shame it’s likely going to be left behind.
 
Jan 4, 2018
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Playing AC Odyssey at the moment. haven't played AC since I dropped Black Flag and I'm having a blast. Love the genre shift so far. And Far Cry 5 was also a ton of fun. Haven't and probably won't touch Siege since it's not my thing, but I might even pick up The Division 2 down the road despite not being hugely captivated by the first game.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I mean it sounds good, but I prefer hard sales numbers like 4.5 millions copies sold.

"Net bookings" in percentages and "engagement" is just hard for me to really wrap my head around what type of real world sales number that would actually mean.
 
Apr 9, 2019
367
Yves gonna be drinkin some wine tonight lmao these numbers are crazy.

That Epic deal is genius tbh getting paid to increase Uplay players what is there not to love about it lmao
 
Oct 27, 2017
87
Gotta give it to Ubisoft, they supported the hell out of siege and it paid off. Their a solid game company for sure, and I can’t think of s legit “bad” game they’ve released
 
Oct 26, 2017
6,045
I mean it sounds good, but I prefer hard sales numbers like 4.5 millions copies sold.

"Net bookings" in percentages and "engagement" is just hard for me to really wrap my head around what type of real world sales number that would actually mean.
Welcome to corporate talk 101, use whatever metric you can to show positive results. Remember how EA said for Anthem that people already spent 150M hours in game (or something like that)?
 
Oct 31, 2018
1,837
Ubisoft are probably my favourite Dev this gen after Sony. They had a rocky start but it's just been game after game I like to play. Legends, long may it last!
 

machinaea

Game Producer
Verified
Oct 29, 2017
156
"Net bookings" in percentages and "engagement" is just hard for me to really wrap my head around what type of real world sales number that would actually mean.
"Net bookings" is a more business approriate metric nowadays.; it's about where the money actually comes from in an age where some games do extremely well after launch and some on other hand may attract a lot of upfront sales but not be as great overall business contributors in the big picture. Not saying copies sold isn't decent metric still, but companies and investor far prefer net bookings because it's starting to be a better metric for viewing the overall business (it's more about actual money/revenue/profit than copies sold is).

Engagement however is a tricky, not only because companies may define it differently, but all it potentially says is that the company may have a lot of active users that could be leveraged to bring more money, but it's not really a hard business metric, even if it does get thrown a lot (but it has it's place, it's not just a vanity metric, even if it can be abused).

In terms of the topic, it's nice to see healthy figures from Ubisoft and even as a public company I do like their approach to the business, even if in terms of market share / overall revenue they're still quite a lot behind EA (over 5 billion in revenue) or ATVI (over 7 billion in revenue) with their less than 2 billion in revenue. Personally I feel their approach, vision and culture could deserve even better results, and as an enthusiast I would wish so (to a degree, of course, no one is perfect by any means).
 
Nov 7, 2017
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These numbers are why I'm not so worried as the Xbox doom and gloom crew in PAL charts threads. I've been following them for years and dont understand why sales enthusiasts dont publicize these figures more as they are really great and unique, we get both platform share breakdowns and geographical region breakdowns. I sure hope Ubi continues to give them out but they've shown no signs of stopping for years. Although I'm sure a bunch of sales agers can start fighting over them and get them to stop ala NPD lol. So yeah never mind ignore these :)

Ubisoft is global (truly a publisher with global appeal), their numbers include every market, every single country worldwide, and include digital. Xbox has been trucking along healthily/fine, and is generally at somewhat less than a 2:1 ratio with PS4 software (which is less than the global hardware disparity which should be PS4 by >2:1). Heck if you want to suss out any trend, for example over the past year over year both PS4 and Xbox share fell, but Xbox fell less (But I think these are just random fluctuations, probably not really a trend). I guess you can note Ubisoft less than fully captures Japan sales obviously, but western games seem to be doing better there, and besides I'd suggest Japan is a bit of unimportant market to western pubs by very virtue of being silo-d. And it looks like Switch is not doing great for Ubi, I have no real comment except Nintendo games sell on NIntendo platforms as I've been saying. The other notable is of course PC looks strong lately, again not sure if a real trend or a fluctuation.

Also, wish I had bough Ubi stock 5 years ago LOL (+498% according to their chart). But like the other game stocks it looks like the big run is over, and it's who knows going forward.
 
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Oct 29, 2017
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Mt. Whatever
Siege deserves it easily.

Also nice to see PC chewing up more and more percentage. Question is, now they have a deal with Epic, will be people actually flock to the Uplay store or will revenue from PC users fall?

Personally speaking, I'm done with Ubi 'til they're back on Steam. Not gonna go giving out my financial information to every launcher under the sun. So in that case, thank heck the MTX in R6 Siege can go through Steam wallet.