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Simon Says Mafia - I would never lie to you, please do what I say
- Thread starter Pedro
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Whyyyyy am I always scumread? Why am I so bad at this lol. And why particularly in this game? I count at least 4 people who started feeling that way beginning towards the end of D1, I guess after the vig shot. Faddy, Chuggs, Exo, Fran, and even Never Forever I think? Like, what did I do?
People are wary of Cabot's interactions with me. But I was calling him out on scummy behavior. I knew something was off about him when he wasn't pressing me as hard as he usually does.
I voted Faddy soon after the shot because I was around at the time, and the way it went down it felt like Faddy did it. He breaks out of his self-imposed curse to berate cabot, and at that very moment cabot dies. What else am I supposed to conclude? The vig would be a prime candidate for a NK, so that's how I voted.
Seems Apollo claimed the kill, and thus is likely not scum.
I will revisit my reads list. Vere was surprisingly fairly low key last day phase which might be why he was offed. But in case he was on to something, I will go through his posts. Can't hurt.
People are wary of Cabot's interactions with me. But I was calling him out on scummy behavior. I knew something was off about him when he wasn't pressing me as hard as he usually does.
I voted Faddy soon after the shot because I was around at the time, and the way it went down it felt like Faddy did it. He breaks out of his self-imposed curse to berate cabot, and at that very moment cabot dies. What else am I supposed to conclude? The vig would be a prime candidate for a NK, so that's how I voted.
Seems Apollo claimed the kill, and thus is likely not scum.
I will revisit my reads list. Vere was surprisingly fairly low key last day phase which might be why he was offed. But in case he was on to something, I will go through his posts. Can't hurt.
I'm not convinced by people scumreading meatwad. I get the feeling he is a clueless townie type.
Chuggs, give me some other scum reads apart from us two. Or do you think scum is a team of 3 and you've cracked the game? If so, that's fine too. Convince me that you've convinced yourself.
About to board a plane, but will be around tomorrow and maybe tonight.
Chuggs, give me some other scum reads apart from us two. Or do you think scum is a team of 3 and you've cracked the game? If so, that's fine too. Convince me that you've convinced yourself.
About to board a plane, but will be around tomorrow and maybe tonight.
Here is a couple of scummy reactions to me. For different reasons but I liked neither.
malus this is just a terrible meta read and such a hard reach. I've been scum twice and been much more cautious both times. As town I usually do weird stuff early on.
DCPAT this is such a weird take and someone struggling to get involved in the game. Stuff has happened and I don't know what you think about it.
malus this is just a terrible meta read and such a hard reach. I've been scum twice and been much more cautious both times. As town I usually do weird stuff early on.
DCPAT this is such a weird take and someone struggling to get involved in the game. Stuff has happened and I don't know what you think about it.
yeah, DCPat is the name you've thrown into the Thunderdome mix here that hadn't really been discussed much D1 and that I also wanted to touch upon today
re-reading his posts from yesterday I couldn't help but get the vibe of everything feeling quite reactionary and surfacey. I get sort of glider/coaster vibes, filling a sort of conciliatory 'just asking questions' filler role without having too much investment in them
stuff like this:
all attempting to clarify something deeply obvious that doesn't really need any further thought, so it's just... there, and I never get the sense of any personal opinion on anything
the only real interaction I find super interesting is this one: the only time he asserts himself is to be defensive. rather than just go into disagreeing he has to get a dig in first, one which is apparently factually inaccurate because Chuggernaut has never been scum and therefore just comes across as weird. 'that's a point that equally applies to you... but it's not a good point anyway!' like, okay? he seems super keen to shut down any discussion on Faddy and keep himself in the good books. honestly I don't fully understand that last paragraph, it's a 'if I were scum I would do this', I guess? I'm not super sure how to parse it.
and then Chuggernaut clarifies that he's unlikely to vote for him, his bacon has been saved, so it stops and isn't pushed any further
re-reading his posts from yesterday I couldn't help but get the vibe of everything feeling quite reactionary and surfacey. I get sort of glider/coaster vibes, filling a sort of conciliatory 'just asking questions' filler role without having too much investment in them
stuff like this:
all attempting to clarify something deeply obvious that doesn't really need any further thought, so it's just... there, and I never get the sense of any personal opinion on anything
the only real interaction I find super interesting is this one: the only time he asserts himself is to be defensive. rather than just go into disagreeing he has to get a dig in first, one which is apparently factually inaccurate because Chuggernaut has never been scum and therefore just comes across as weird. 'that's a point that equally applies to you... but it's not a good point anyway!' like, okay? he seems super keen to shut down any discussion on Faddy and keep himself in the good books. honestly I don't fully understand that last paragraph, it's a 'if I were scum I would do this', I guess? I'm not super sure how to parse it.
and then Chuggernaut clarifies that he's unlikely to vote for him, his bacon has been saved, so it stops and isn't pushed any further
I have to go back and read, but going back and read is for losers so instead I'll rely on my memory.
I recall that cabot voted NF, NF fired back, they kiss kiss slap slap for a bit, and then cabot moved his vote somewhere else, leaving NF hot and bothered.
I made a quick "Hmm" post about this, I remember because I'm a narcissist, but my thought process at the moment was that it felt like they were both kinda commiting to a serious discussion only to realize they might have gotten to much attention, so cabot moved along and NF just kind of let him be.
So really it felt weird, my suspicion was mostly on cabot but I do feel NF has made lenghty posts to distance himself from his relationship with cabot.
So, hmm indeed.
I recall that cabot voted NF, NF fired back, they kiss kiss slap slap for a bit, and then cabot moved his vote somewhere else, leaving NF hot and bothered.
I made a quick "Hmm" post about this, I remember because I'm a narcissist, but my thought process at the moment was that it felt like they were both kinda commiting to a serious discussion only to realize they might have gotten to much attention, so cabot moved along and NF just kind of let him be.
So really it felt weird, my suspicion was mostly on cabot but I do feel NF has made lenghty posts to distance himself from his relationship with cabot.
So, hmm indeed.
When I made my scum case against cabot I said I thought NF was town and I think I still believe that.
I can't see cabot having his criteria set out for Simon then just ditching it to vote for a team mate. It makes little sense. He was trying to buy NF's vote for himself imo which he did successfully.
I can't see cabot having his criteria set out for Simon then just ditching it to vote for a team mate. It makes little sense. He was trying to buy NF's vote for himself imo which he did successfully.
I never directly interacted with him other than to vote for him, and I think the record will show that
I could see that he was obviously defending me and being super nice, and I didn't really know how to engage because I thought maybe I was just being overly paranoid, which is something that I kind of alluded to when I said that 'somebody being distrustful of me automatically makes me feel better than someone trusting me'. I had kind of an odd feeling, but I ended up second-guessing myself and voting for him anyway because I don't trust my own instincts
I could see that he was obviously defending me and being super nice, and I didn't really know how to engage because I thought maybe I was just being overly paranoid, which is something that I kind of alluded to when I said that 'somebody being distrustful of me automatically makes me feel better than someone trusting me'. I had kind of an odd feeling, but I ended up second-guessing myself and voting for him anyway because I don't trust my own instincts
No point doing that. People are way way too down about possibly being the lynch.
There are a few people who have been pretty townie and a bunch of other people who have been less so. The people in the latter group need to start making reads and justifying them. Sitting there like a potato if you are town is just bad.
There are a few people who have been pretty townie and a bunch of other people who have been less so. The people in the latter group need to start making reads and justifying them. Sitting there like a potato if you are town is just bad.
My thought process at the moment is that I need more input. Your vote is the first vote of the game. The Simon selection day is not a lot of info. Since we had the shot on Cabot we can look at his interactions but I can't find much there.
The game is just started and I'm a bit disappointed I get this slack for my input so far. But I like you and Faddy for it. It's moving the game forward.
The game is just started and I'm a bit disappointed I get this slack for my input so far. But I like you and Faddy for it. It's moving the game forward.
Why do you think they killed Verelios?
He was a bit of a non-presence in the game. I had practically no read of him and if anything he was seen in a negative light.
Never Forever please don't vote when we havent even had everyone check in.
He was a bit of a non-presence in the game. I had practically no read of him and if anything he was seen in a negative light.
Never Forever please don't vote when we havent even had everyone check in.
Seems awfully risky, and I don't completely buy your "wasn't thinking clearly " narrative. I think faddy's arguments where really provocative and cabot was acting scummy enough, but just icing a guy is a much harder decision that making a vote.
I do buy your bang post, seems like something one would like to brag about. But I find your wait and see approach suspicious and your post-murder second thoughts... lacking
I do buy your bang post, seems like something one would like to brag about. But I find your wait and see approach suspicious and your post-murder second thoughts... lacking
I try to limit my scum reads to how many people I think are left in the game because it forces me to reexamine the thing if it turns out I'm wrong, but if I had to pick some others it would be NF and Salva.
I think you made some good points about NF, but I'm hesitant to go for him right now because scum Cabot just voting for his scum right then seems kind of a strange thing to do.
Salva just doesn't seem like he's adding much and seems to be flying under a lot of peoples radars. That hard Apollo shade he just threw got an eyebrow raise out of me also.
Also, I looked back at your posts and the only thing I saw was you putting Cabot in a scum list, but you didn't really say why. Am I missing another post you made? I'm weary of this because I just got out of a game where scum Natiko and scum Monkey just kept lightly bussing each other the whole game
I think you made some good points about NF, but I'm hesitant to go for him right now because scum Cabot just voting for his scum right then seems kind of a strange thing to do.
Salva just doesn't seem like he's adding much and seems to be flying under a lot of peoples radars. That hard Apollo shade he just threw got an eyebrow raise out of me also.
Also, I looked back at your posts and the only thing I saw was you putting Cabot in a scum list, but you didn't really say why. Am I missing another post you made? I'm weary of this because I just got out of a game where scum Natiko and scum Monkey just kept lightly bussing each other the whole game
